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Monday, 10 November 2008

#114* - Gollom's lost his Pressssiousssss!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

BEFORE WE START TODAY:
I wonder if those of you on the NEC and amongst the leadership, or at least with access to EUkip computers and mailing lists would perform your usual stunt and leak like Billy Oh to your apparatchiks – those who regularly mail me ‘stuff’ don’t worry as, if you circulate the URL that follows, people will believe that you are on side and not one of my sources – so play safe ;-)

Here is the URL to mail out, to bring people up to speed with what is going on – as time passes not only will it be kept upto date but also the backlog will be posted – almost 200 blogs so do forgive me if it takes a little time.

http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com/
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#114* - Gollom's lost his Pressssiousssss!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip LEADERSHIP’S CORRUPTION & THEIR COLLAPSE!

Hi,

Sorry todays news update is a little unimaginative but it does rather reflect those who were posting the material to each other in outright betrayal of the membership and clearly out of venal self interest.

Little Gollom excels himself as he slithers around duplicitous as ever – an unpleasant and cowardly creep always ready to do something in his own interest.

He has proved in the past to have the honour and integrity of a snake and the personality of a stoat. Both untrustworthy and vicious in his self interest – willing to mislead and back stab along with the rest of that which has floated to the top of the septic tank of EUkip politics.

I do particularly enjoy the grovelling of Youles, ever available to promote himself by a little underhand brown nosing!

By the way – thanks to my source who, as I understand, it mailed it to me through a blind hotmail account having received it, I presume on a lap top in the EU, earlier last night.

Anyway – make of this what you will and I will interject but a little ;-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Youles" <jbyoules@ntlworld.com>


To: "Paul Nuttall, UKIP Chaiman" <chairman@ukip.org>
Cc: "George Curtis, UKIP Eastern Counties Chairman" <
gscurtis@aspects.net>; "John Savory,
UKIP Eastern Counties Norfolk Member"
gillian.savory@onetel.com>;
"Peter Reeve, UKIP Eastern Counties Organiser" <
reeve@ukip.org>; "Office of Jeffrey Titford
MEP"
ukipeastadmin@intamail.com>;
"Glenn Tingle (chairman UKIP Norwich)" <
tingo@btinternet.com>; "Stuart Agnew
(UKIP Norwich cttee)"
stuart.agnew@btconnect.com>;
"Steve Emmens (UKIP Norwich cttee)" <
steve.memmens@ntlworld.com>;
"John Woodhead (treasurer UKIP Norwich"
reedhamjohn@btconnect.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:02 AM
Subject: Clarification

You will not be surprised to know that I receive unsolicited emails from
thespammer Greg Lance-Watkins.
One recently referred to a meeting at Newmarket at the end of September and
a"unanimous declaration" of representatives of a number of constituencies.
Theimpression given was that these people were representative of the
EasternCounties as a whole.This is not so. Neither I nor my branch
chairman were aware of this meetingbefore it took place.
Therefore the declaration does not represent Norwichbranch at all (three
constituencies).Furthermore, I contacted some other committee members of various
Norfolkbranches, none of whom had been aware of it either.I have also read of
criticisms of the Eastern Counties Committee, and of theRegional Organiser,
which I find quite bizarre.
Peter Reeve has always beenmost helpful to this branch, in particular he
has organised meetings for branchcommittee members in the county are proving
invaluable.
Regarding the MEP selection process, I was very impressed by the quality of
thecandidates at the hustings, all of whom were far far better, IMHO, than the
twowannabes who have been complaining.
Regards
John Youles
Secretary, UK Independence Party Norwich Branch
Tel: 01603 407152 Mob: 07941 343824 Fax: 08444 171626
-- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG.Version:
7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1755 - Release Date: 29/10/08 17:27


This reads rather more as if it was written by a virus!

eColi by the duplicitous and underhand brown nosing!

Let us look at it in some detail:

You will not be surprised to know that I receive unsolicited emails from thespammer Greg Lance-Watkins.

Well at least SOMEONE is keeping him informed!
Isn’t it funny how one is classified as a spammer if you are publishing facts and the truth that some wish to keep hidden – whereas their liars, cheats and corruption is portrayed as ‘Lobbying’ – they do let themselves and those they represent down by being so childishly transparent and predictable.Ever name calling like children in a playground!

One recently referred to a meeting at Newmarket at the end of September and a"unanimous declaration" of representatives of a number of constituencies. Theimpression given was that these people were representative of the EasternCounties as a whole.

Do not lie John, it ill becomes you – NOWHERE did I state it represented the entirety of the Eastern Counties I clearly stated that the invitation would seem to have been widespread and that of the 21 Constituency branches ALL 21 signed the declaration.

John your commentary though predictable is dishonest.

You will note from the oleagenous Gollom’s response that he has identified 4 more active branches but they did not attend. Would this standard of dishonesty be how you would expect EUkip to Govern if it was ever elected to any office?

This is not so. Neither I nor my branch chairman were aware of this meetingbefore it took place. Therefore the declaration does not represent Norwichbranch at all (three constituencies).

How grossly inefficient of you – I knew before the meeting and not from someone who organised it or was attending – no wonder with your display of awareness EUkip merely garnered 117 votes in the recent By Election, a massive EUkip style 0.03%

One of the big problems with EUkip, as I have always said, is in 15 years they have failed to put in place an organisational structure – lines of communications and trained competence – don’t bitch about the messenger when you have so clearly proved my point.

Furthermore, I contacted some other committee members of various Norfolkbranches, none of whom had been aware of it either.

How clearly you prove me right – is it any wonder that the corrupt leadership and NEC become arrogant and believe they can treat the members like dirt as they cheat and lie to keep their snouts in the EU troughs and aid their cronies.

With a structure as crass and amateur as you admit to here are you really surprised at the extent to which they cheat and lie?

I have also read of criticisms of the Eastern Counties Committee, and of theRegional Organiser, which I find quite bizarre.

What planet is this little lad on? Rather than trying to belittle the messenger can I suggest you try to keep in touch with what is going on – I try my best but perhaps my new blog will help you keep up with the facts .
The URL is:
http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com

Peter Reeve has always been most helpful to this branch, in particular he has organised meetings for branchcommittee members in the county are proving invaluable.

One has to wonder what he wants from you in view of the damaging interference he has orchestrated in other branches and the fact that his mistress was dishonestly ‘placed’ on the NEC – not to mention the various branches that have voted, in accord with the constitution, and have deselected him – together with liars and cowards like George Curtis and the unprofessional and dishonest Andrew Smith who has put the party at risk of losing upto A MILLION POUNDS with his irresponsible behaviour in cahoots with the insecure idiot Nigel Farage.

IF Reeve was any damned good he would have ensured you knew about the Newmarket meeting where 21 branches were represented, however he was obviously too busy plotting to orchestrate dishonest and unconstitutional witch hunts and kangaroo courts – not to mention a major local rally at which the discredited and dishonest deputy leader spoke in a hired hall, after advertising widely, to less than 12 people.

I wonder if NuttAll could have got 21 branches represented at Newark – he failed at Capel St. Mary.

Regarding the MEP selection process, I was very impressed by the quality of thecandidates at the hustings, all of whom were far far better, IMHO, than the twowannabes who have been complaining.

Who might these so called ‘wanabes’ be?

The liar, fraud, cheat and all round failure David the desk Bannerman?
or
The braggart and bully Stuart Agnew who boasts he has paid enough to buy the position and brings no diplomatic or political skill to the arena, merely self importance and greed!

Might it be the dishonest slippery Gollom, currently we understand under investigation by both the Essex Police
(who are I understand awaiting response from OLAF on Titford & Gulleford for substantive allegations of fraud, money laundering and embezzling, which one must hope they will be cleared of as they will then possibly be facing investigation and charges for ‘abuse of computer data’ having hacked into the private mail of the past Chairman Petrina Holdsworth and the past General Secretary Geoffrey Kingscott and possibly others).

Where were you when the Returning Officer’s report of the corruption under your nose was made public – ‘Turning A Blind Eye’ or doing an impersonation of all three of the wise monkeys!

John – don’t be a twerp, you really can’t be that stupid!You damage your credibility by trying to defend the indefensible AFTER the events have been made public!

----- Forwarded Message ----



From: Stuart Gulleford ukipeast@intamail.com
To: Paul Nuttall ; John Youles jbyoules@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: George Curtis ; gillian.savory@onetel.com;
ukipeastadmin@intamail.com; tingo ;
steve.memmens@ntlworld.com; John Woodhead ;
shawforddavid@hotmail.com; alanbown@btinternet.com; cgill36@hotmail.co.uk;
davidfabbott@btinternet.com; dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk; del1young@yahoo.co.uk;
derekrclark@hotmail.co.uk; douglas.denny@btopenworld.com;
greg@glanceback.demon.co.uk; ukipse@ukip.org; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com;
lisa.duffy2@tesco.net; martaandreasen@auna.com; mazuckerman@bensonmazure.co.uk;
nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu; ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk; rjoxley@lineone.net;
susan@keymerhaslam.co.ukSent:
Thursday, 30 October, 2008 10:30:55
Subject: Re: ClarificationThanks for this

John.
I would add that I am a branch chairman - Brentwood & Ongar and I
wasn't invited either. That gets us up to four constituencies not
included. Any advance?

The Newmarket meeting was a complete con in that the
invitation implied it was for campaign planning and people went along expecting
exactly that, not another platform for the fifth column we seem to have in our
midst. who are prepared to do anything they possibly can to disrupt the Eastern
Counties, at a time when we most need to pull together to be ready for the
European Election and the General Election that will follow soon
afterwards.

The ringleaders were very careful to ensure that no one who
was likely to publicly disagree with them was invited. One wonders who is
really behind them as their efforts benefit nobody but the other political
parties, who oppose us in our fight for an independent Britain.

I gather that another fifth column meeting is to held in Newmarket on 8th November. I hope that people will have wised up and the attendance will reflect the true nature of the level of support for this nonsense.

It would also be beneficial if we managed to get some members there who are prepared to oppose these troublemakers.

Best wishes
Stuart Gulleford

ChairmanBrentwood & Ongar
Constituency Association>

So let us consider what the oiliferous and untrustworthy Gollom has actually had to say:

Thanks for this John.

It is always so nice to have someone who will boot lick isn’t it!

I would add that I am a branch chairman - Brentwood & Ongar and I wasn't invited either. That gets us up to four constituencies not included. Any advance?

Have you actually got more than 21+ 4 branches left after the damage done to EUkip by yourself and the leadership – Tom Wise (STILL not only a member but a branch chairman until a couple of weeks ago!

The membership has collapse and you would be astonished how many of the people I phone who have dropped out of UKIP in disgust – Active members avidly read my newsletters and I get 100s of incoming eMails a day to my computer but I do get a few ill mannered abusive comments from people too stupid to be able to read – that get deleted automatically.

The Newmarket meeting was a complete con in that the invitation implied it was for campaign planning and people went along expecting exactly that, not another platform for the fifth column we seem to have in our midst.

It is clear you are not very bright but I didn’t realise you were so stupid as to show yourself for a fool in one sentence!

CONSIDER:
You State (The Newmarket meeting was a complete con) so therefore everyone was, according to you ‘duped’ into attending – but interestingly of the activists who attended, conned on the belief they were there to discuss tactics etc. at what was a widely advertised meeting – 21 out of 21 Constituencies signed the Newmarket Declaration.

Rather than hang around damaging UKIP – why don’t you go and get a real job, there is surely a limit to how long the EUroSceptic movement can be expected to support such a destructive, self interested parasite. Or is it that you are unemployable outside your greasy pit!

who are prepared to do anything they possibly can to disrupt the Eastern Counties, at a time when we most need to pull together to be ready for the European Election and the General Election that will follow soon afterwards.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE to try to clean up the Eastern Region?
What example have you set in your salaried position cheating in the selection process, spreading dissent and fermenting trouble.

Even your own Returning Officer said your conduct in the Eastern Region was unacceptable and the process should be re-run.

What have you done to get rid of the liar, fraud and cheat Bannerman etc. etc. – NO NOTHING for as long as it suited YOU.

You are contemptible!

The ringleaders were very careful to ensure that no one who was likely to publicly disagree with them was invited.

Were that true honest men and women of integrity would applaud them for their wisdom – Just look how corrupt YOUR Region has become:

One MEP under arrest and on Bail for a series of crimes as reported in the media and clearly known to many.

YOU creeping around with vile little letters, plotting and scamming.

An entire selection process corrupt and corrupted and a lead candidate CHOSEN not elected who is a disgrace to the party.

No wonder less than 12 people turned up to HIS Rally!

One wonders who is really behind them as their efforts benefit nobody but the other political parties, who oppose us in our fight for an independent Britain.

YOU DISHONEST GRUBBY LITTLE MAN – after the damage you have done and the collusion in the destruction of EUkip you have the nerve to TRY to accuse decent men and women of undermining filth like YOU.

The remaining Patriots in what was UKIP are trying desperately hard to rid it of the salaried, showboating, self seeking creeps who have made it a party no individual of integrity would consider supporting.

Am I being too honest for YOU?

CONSIDER:

UKIP had 29,500 members in 2004

it now has about 6,000 active members.

Head Office even quietly admits that the membership is falling daily, but pretend it is around 14,000 – implausible twaddle.

0.03% voted EUkip in the last by election – for every EUkip vote Labour at the bottom of their popularity got 170 votes.

EUkip has £45,000 in its piggy bank whilst facing forfeitures & Costs of up to £1,000,000 on ONE case alone.

EUkip hasn’t a single backer of substance left.

The one backer is a retired bookie who has been DUPED & LIED TO thus conning him into thinking he must pay the costs incurred by Farage & Smith!

NEED I GO ON?

I gather that another fifth column meeting is to held in Newmarket on 8th November.

Not the most intelligent language for you to use when talking of a number of your long term Branch Chairmen and UKIP loyalists seeking desperately to clean up the filth that EUkip has become to make it electable.

I hope that people will have wised up and the attendance will reflect the true nature of the level of support for this nonsense.

Yes there were only 20 present this time but with more appologies – almost twice as many as attended that liar, failure & Fraud Bannerman’s RALLY, which was so widely advertised!

It would also be beneficial if we managed to get some members there who are prepared to oppose these troublemakers.

We must remind you that you sent along two plants and to judge by the briefing they received they were complete cabbages', but having found their briefing was a pack of lies they looked like radishes they were so embarrassed – the audience of chairmen must have thought they smelt like durion because it wasn’t long before they scuttled out like rats with their tails between their legs.

Astonishing really when you consider that Ian Jonathan Smith thought he was an expert on M15 and tried, with lack lustre support from the hapless little Herbert Hitt, to explain how M15 functioned and in so doing clearly and publicly slandered me, both in fact and by implication – however I’m not entirely certain that an ill informed imbecile would be held responsible for his lies in a Court of Law particularly since he could no doubt prove who had briefed him.

Gulleford may I suggest you do everyone a favour, but most especially yourself, LEAVE EUkip as a part of the cleaning up process and please NEVER again act as a parasite in the EUroSceptic movement you have done it consistent damage year in year out – just look at the mess EUkip is in in the Eastern Region, and that ALL took place on YOUR watch.

No wonder the CIB were so relieved when they were shot of you.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

MAY I SUGGEST – since there is no political party of repute advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country:
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU


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