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Sunday 2 November 2008

#102* - Apocalypse NOW @ EUkip?

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership & NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

#102* - Apocalypse NOW @ EUkip?

Hi,

Sorry it suits my plan to make this a difficult paper trail to follow – The outcome by whatever route anyone of integrity takes is to demand WILL THE LIAR, FRAUD, CHEAT and general low life David Bannerman, whoever he may claim to be, having indisputably befouled EUkip with his dishonesty and undeniable corruption be allowed to resign or will EUkip’s leadership & NEC tether themselves to this odious bully and lie about his depature when he goes, as go he will, even if he takes the whole rotten head of EUkip and its parasites with him the Mill Stone that sank them to the bottom.

Many will remember the dishonesty of the leadership in its corrupt inability to acquit its duty and fire the foul mouthed Fuller because we understand of the hold she had over Farage as on tape!

Will EUkip’s leadership and NEC lie about Bannerman to defend him as it did about Fuller? Will the NEC be willing to go along with more lies – would the new puppet Chairman resign at being made to sign dishonest letters?

Puzzle your way through the eMails below I have received from an EU contact and also someone close to the NEC – I have had a copy of the amateur entrapment eMail and spotting it when I received my copy chose not to pass it on or warn anyone as the fact that I had a copy would clearly have provided the defence that David Abbott would need as it had not come from him and I received a copy before Abbott had forwarded a copy to Edmond – Abbott being a Doctor and an honest decent man had accidentally made a monkey of the amateur sleuth by failing to realise it was a childish attempt to entrap him and he acted as any decent man would and forwarded a copy to his colleague on the NEC who seemed to be missed from the distribution despite it being about him!

Abbott’s integrity utterly outwitted the dishonesty and corrupt manouverings of the idiot Bannerman not by intent but merely by integrity!Bannerman has been hoist on his own petard and shown for the fool he is!

----- Original Message ----
From: DAVID BANNERMAN dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk
To: alanbown@btinternet1.com; Christopher Gill ; David Abbott ; Delroy Young ; Derek Clark ; FARAGE Nigel ; Jill Seymour ; lisa.duffy24@tesco.net; Marta Andreasen ; Michael Zuckerman ; NIGEL FARAGE MEP ; Rachel Oxley ; Douglas Denny ; Paul Nuttall ; JOHN WHITTAKER
john.whittaker@lancaster.acu.uk
Sent: Thursday, 9 October, 2008 9:32:10 AM
Subject: URGENT - MOTION FOR NEXT NEC

Dear Paul,

I know you do not wish to receive e mail communications generally. However, I do need to notify the whole NEC of this matter in a timely manner, so this is I hope a noble exception.

As NEC Chairman, could you please put the following motion on the Agenda of the next NEC on 3rd November, as previously discussed ?:

MOTION: ‘That in the light of Dr Eric Edmond’s unbecoming conduct as an NEC member, both during NEC meetings and through relevant e mails and other communications, that under Article 7.18 of the UKIP Constitution, Eric Edmond be suspended immediately from the NEC.'


Thank you.

Best wishes,

David


David Campbell Bannerman

----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Edmond
To: dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Paul Nuttall ; alanbown@btinternet.co.uk ; Christopher Gill ; David Abbott ; Delroy Young ; Derek Clark ; FARAGE Nigel ; Jill Seymour ; lisa.duffy2@tesco.com ; Marta Andreasen ; Michael Zuckerman ; Rachel Oxley ; JOHN WHITTAKER ; MALCOLM WOOD ; trevor colman ; Roger Knapman
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: URGENT - MOTION FOR NEXT NEC


Dear Mr Bannerman,

As I have explained to all the NEC I will not attend the kangaroo court you have organised for me without representation. Mr Nuttall has refused me this basic human right.I now require your immediate explanation for your attempt to entrap Dr Abbott in the extraordinary series of emails below. Entrapment is of course explicitly for bidden in British law but obviously neither you nor Mr Nuttall are familiar with this basic legal right.

I list below the fraudulent email addresses you hid behind behind the apparently genuine email addresses below in your email of Thursday 9th Oct, 9:32 am listed below I copy this email to all above so they can see how duplicitous the deception was on the NEC you tried to dupe. David Abbotts address:

DAVID ABBOTT ,

was the only correc tone. David was deceived by you into thinking all the NEC had received it. Unfortunately for you David Abbott is a decent honest man who honourably copied his reply to all the recipients and me and your deceit was exposed..


----- Original Message -----

From: DAVID BANNERMAN
To: Eric Edmond Cc: Paul Nuttall ; alanbown@btinternet.com ; Christopher Gill ; David Abbott ; Delroy Young ; Derek Clark ; FARAGE Nigel ; Jill Seymour ; lisa.duffy2@tesco.net ; Marta Andreasen ; Michael Zuckerman ; Rachel Oxley
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: URGENT - MOTION FOR NEXT NEC

Dear Dr Edmond,

You have been sent a separate e mail containing the disciplinary submission requested by the NEC on 8th September, and a formal motion for consideration at the 3rd November NEC meeting. This is in order to give you reasonable time to prepare your defence. The rest of the NEC will be supplied with the submission before the NEC meeting in the usual way.

The other e mail should be disregarded in any case, as it was only sent as part of an ongoing routine security check following the advice of security advisers - more details at the next NEC.

Yours Sincerely,

David Campbell Bannerman

----- Original Message -----

From: DAVID ABBOTT
To: dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk ; alanbown@btinternet1.com ; Christopher Gill ; Delroy Young ; Derek Clark ; FARAGE Nigel ; Jill Seymour ; lisa.duffy24@tesco.net ; Marta Andreasen ; Michael Zuckerman ; NIGEL FARAGE MEP ; Rachel Oxley ; Douglas Denny ; Paul Nuttall ; JOHN WHITTAKER
Cc: Eric Edmond
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: URGENT - MOTION FOR NEXT NEC


David

I have forwarded this email to Eric as you did not include him in the circulation list. Some might think that omission a bit below the belt.

David

David F Abbott MRCP

http://www.britsattheirbest.com/

-----Original Message----

From: Eric Edmond eric.edmond@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: Fw: URGENT - MOTION FOR NEXT NEC
To: "David Campbell Bannerman"
dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: "Paul Nuttall" , alanbown@btinternet.com, "Christopher Gill" , "David Abbott" , "David Campbell Bannerman" , "Delroy Young" , "Derek Clark" , "FARAGE Nigel" , "Jill Seymour" , lisa.duffy2@tesco.net, "Marta Andreasen" , "Michael Zuckerman" , "Rachel Oxley"
rjoxley@lineone.net
Date: Monday, 13 October, 2008, 9:00 AM

? Dear Mr Bannerman,

I refer to the email below which was rightly forwarded to me by David Abbott.

Can you please explain to me why I alone was not sent a copy of this email but all members of the NEC and John Whittaker were sent copies? It is a fundamental right that a person should be immediately informed of charges against them. You seem to have no regard for the rules of justice. I want an explanation from you.

Eric Edmond

----- Original Message -----

From: DAVID BANNERMAN
To: Eric Edmond Cc: Paul Nuttall ; alanbown@btinternet.com ; Christopher Gill ; David Abbott ; Delroy Young ; Derek Clark ; FARAGE Nigel ; Jill Seymour ; lisa.duffy2@tesco.net ; Marta Andreasen ; Michael Zuckerman ; Rachel Oxley
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: URGENT - MOTION FOR NEXT NEC

Dear Dr Edmond,

You have been sent a separate e mail containing the disciplinary submission requested by the NEC on 8th September, and a formal motion for consideration at the 3rd November NEC meeting. This is in order to give you reasonable time to prepare your defence. The rest of the NEC will be supplied with the submission before the NEC meeting in the usual way.

The other e mail should be disregarded in any case, as it was only sent as part of an ongoing routine security check following the advice of security advisers - more details at the next NEC.

Yours Sincerely,

David Campbell Bannerman

-----Original Message-----

From: Eric Edmond eric.edmond@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: Re: Fw: URGENT - MOTION FOR NEXT NEC
To:
dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: "Paul Nuttall" , alanbown@btinternet.com, "Christopher Gill" , "David Abbott" , "David Campbell Bannerman" , "Delroy Young" , "Derek Clark" , "FARAGE Nigel" , "Jill Seymour" , lisa.duffy2@tesco.net, "Marta Andreasen" , "Michael Zuckerman" , "Rachel Oxley"
rjoxley@lineone.net
Date: Thursday, 16 October, 2008, 6:12 PM


? Dear Mr Bannerman

Your email to me (below) is really quite extraordinary but it raises a number of important questions. I think I, and all NEC members are entitled to a full explanation.

First I am copied an email which purports to be a serious formal disciplinary charge against me. You do not however send me a copy. Then you seem to suggest that you deliberately wrote this bogus email and I should ignore it.

I do not think it is appropriate to play games on a matter like this.

How can I, or anyone else, know whether what you send or say is genuine or not?

In particular you refer to "security advisers." I am not aware that the NEC has agreed to such an appointment. Please would you let me know who these security advisers are, who appointed them and why they were appointed? Please can you also tell me if they are being paid and if so how much?

The only person who received this email from you was David Abbott, a fellow NEC member. Your email however deliberately gave the impression that this was sent to all NEC members except me. On the face of it, this seems to be a devious and unwarranted means of entrapping David in some way. Why are you picking on one member of the NEC and to what end?

These are serious questions which deserve a full and rapid explanation from you to all NEC members.

Eric Edmond


----- Original Message -----

From: DAVID BANNERMAN
To: Eric Edmond Cc: Paul Nuttall ; alanbown@btinternet.com ; Christopher Gill ; David Abbott ; Delroy Young ; Derek Clark ; FARAGE Nigel ; Jill Seymour ; lisa.duffy2@tesco.net ; Marta Andreasen ; Michael Zuckerman ; Rachel Oxley
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: URGENT - MOTION FOR NEXT NEC

Dear Dr Edmond,

Thank you. Please will you confirm receipt of the disciplinary submission by e mail ?

I can assure you that no games are being played by us, these matters are extremely serious. I am sure David Abbott has close friends who can supply him with his own high quality security advice.

We will discuss these issues further at the next NEC.

Yours Sincerely,

David Campbell Bannerman


-----Original Message-----

From: Eric Edmond eric.edmond@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: Re: URGENT - MOTION FOR NEXT NEC
To:
dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: "Paul Nuttall" , alanbown@btinternet.com, "Christopher Gill" , "David Abbott" , "David Campbell Bannerman" , "Delroy Young" , "Derek Clark" , "FARAGE Nigel" , "Jill Seymour" , lisa.duffy2@tesco.net, "Marta Andreasen" , "Michael Zuckerman" , "Rachel Oxley"
rjoxley@lineone.net
Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 3:39 PM

? Dear Mr Bannerman,

In the light of all the confusion over your emails and the "security risks" you mention I am now quite unsure of what is legitimate and what is not and in any case I don't see what any of this has got to do with UKIP's important role in the political world and our efforts to get out of the EU

Eric Edmond

----- Original Message -----

From: DAVID BANNERMAN
To: Eric Edmond
Cc: Paul Nuttall ; alanbown@btinternet.com ; Christopher Gill ; David Abbott ; Delroy Young ; Derek Clark ; FARAGE Nigel ; Jill Seymour ; lisa.duffy2@tesco.net ; Marta Andreasen ; Michael Zuckerman ; Rachel Oxley ; JOHN WHITTAKER
Sent: Wednesday,
October 22, 2008 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: URGENT - MOTION FOR NEXT NEC

Dear Dr Edmond,

Thank you for your note, but there is no confusion.

You received the Disciplinary Submission and proposed motion by e mail on 14th October, as confirmed by the Party Leader's office, the Party Chairman and Party Secretary, who received the same submission in the same e mail. This was to allow you a fair opportunity to present your case for the defence, and was submitted in advance of the 7 days requested in the NEC motion.

I now append that submission paper and motion for all the NEC to consider at the next NEC meeting on 3rd November.

I understand the issue of security will be dealt with at the same NEC.

Yours Sincerely,

David Campbell Bannerman


----Original Message-----

To: dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk, alanbown@btinternet1.com, Christopher Gill , Delroy Young , Derek Clark , FARAGE Nigel , Jill Seymour , lisa.duffy24@tesco.net, Marta Andreasen , Michael Zuckerman , NIGEL FARAGE MEP , Rachel Oxley , Douglas Denny , Paul Nuttall , JOHN WHITTAKER

I hope our NEC colleagues can spot your deceit!

I demand answers now to my questions in my email below of Thursaday 16th Oct

Date: Thursday, 16 October, 2008, 6:12 PM


? Dear Mr Bannerman

Your email to me (below) is really quite extraordinary but it raises a number of important questions. I think I, and all NEC members are entitled to a full explanation.

First I am copied an email which purports to be a serious formal disciplinary charge against me. You do not however send me a copy. Then you seem to suggest that you deliberately wrote this bogus email and I should ignore it.

I do not think it is appropriate to play games on a matter like this.

How can I, or anyone else, know whether what you send or say is genuine or not?

In particular you refer to "security advisers." I am not aware that the NEC has agreed to such an appointment. Please would you let me know who these security advisers are, who appointed them and why they were appointed? Please can you also tell me if they are being paid and if so how much?

The only person who received this email from you was David Abbott, a fellow NEC member. Your email however deliberately gave the impression that this was sent to all NEC members except me. On the face of it, this seems to be a devious and unwarranted means of entrapping David in some way. Why are you picking on one member of the NEC and to what end?

These are serious questions which deserve a full and rapid explanation from you to all NEC members.

Eric Edmond

You, who attempted to secretly entrap one of your NEC colleagues and deceive the remainder, now charge me with conduct unbecoming the NEC!

Your behaviour is a disgrace and you should resign from the NEC immediately, as deputy leader of UKIP and as a UKIP MEP candidate.

Eric Edmond

It is clear that any individual of ANY integrity will not attend the NEC on Monday thereby showing they refuse point blanck to be associated with the corruption, duplicity and betrayal of the members of UKIP that the leadership are perpetrating and in disassociation from the Kangaroo Court being orchestrated by liars and frauds.I believe that NEC members Hasslam, Abbott, Young, Edmond & West would be ill advised to associate themselves in any way with the liars, cheats, bullies and scum that have shown they are in collusion on this matter.

We KNOW based on track record that there are sufficient liars in amongst the NEC to ensure that like the South West Minutes fiddled by Malcolm Wood and previously by Hugh Williams – just as with the lies of Graham Booth regarding accounts and the dishonesty of Wittaker – by attending Hasslam, Abbott, Young, Edmond & West will be abused and lied about by the NEC & leadership.

Of the remaining 8 NEC members and the leadership and MEPs present there are more proven liars, those who have deliberately benefited from dishonesty, those who are present by deception, those who are under investigation and those unfit leaving??

Why would decent men wish to associate with such dishonesty as the residue are happy to uphold? They WILL be lied about or accused of tourrettes or some other slight on their mental health by some fool like Zucherman or a liar like Denny or just by the weak and spent old Gill – need I go on.

Fortunately I believe that Hasslam, Abbott, Young, Edmond & West are intelligent enough to understand they can best serve UKIP and the decent grass roots members disassociated from the corruption that is the rotten head of EUkip.

Bannerman has even threatened to go to The Met. and make a confession!!

Or will he lie to them too?Interestingly apart from insults of a playground standard and yet more allusions to mental heath and dishonesty from EUkip – to date out of over 150 sequential eMails in less than 60 days, exposing EUkip corruption, dishonesty and internal determination for self destruction and rigged elections NOT A SINGLE FACT of substance that I have provided has been challenged or proven wrong in fact my claims have been endorsed and proven by such FACTS as the Returning Officer’s Report and Recommendations which substantiated my earlier claims.At the moment, without fresh material I have at least another 150 days of material and naturally more will arrive from decent members of the party who want it cleaned up to provide a vehicle people of integrity can vote for.

The choice is simple – Clean up or Close Down.

Under present leadership EUkip is failing on all fronts – in public interviews Farage is forced to lie, backing for the foolish choice of a pro EU Spanish resident on a featherbedding salary has gone down like a lead balloon with honest men and women – rigged elections show just how unsuitable you are as politicians – the propensity of your leadership to rig cases and run obvious kangaroo courts using entrapment, bullying, harassment and criminality to achieve your aims and keep your snouts in the EU troughs is an implausible example of how people might act if anyone EVER made the mistake of giving any of you responsibility.

I agree with Mr. Edmond:
You, who attempted to secretly entrap one of your NEC colleagues and deceive the remainder, now charge me with conduct unbecoming the NEC!

Your behaviour is a disgrace and you should resign from the NEC immediately, as deputy leader of UKIP and as a UKIP MEP candidate.

Do you remember the line in Apocalypse Now of ‘I love the smell of napalm burning in the morning’ – I can smell EUkip toast and badly burned liars !

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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