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Wednesday 31 December 2008

#217* - EUkip THE FOOLS, FARAGE & THE FUTURE

#217* - EUkip THE FOOLS, FARAGE & THE FUTURE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what
gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip LEADERSHIP - THE FOOLS, FARAGE & THE FUTURE

The Political Faeces of 2009

Iain Dale tips nine political faeces to keep your eye on in the coming year

Lynne Featherstone - Liberal Democrat, MP for Hornsey and Wood Green

Boris Johnson - Conservative, Mayor of London

Nigel Farage - Leader of UKIP

The next twelve months will make or break for UKIP's debonair and flamboyant leader.
Farage has tried to professionalise UKIP but has been hindered every step of the way.
He is their only recognisable media face, but his party is too stupid to recognise the asset they've got.
Prediction: He'll defect to the Tories within a year.


Ed Miliband - Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change

Caroline Lucas - Green Party Leader, MEP for South East England

Damian Green - Conservative, Shadow Minister for Immigration and MP for Ashford

Fraser Nelson - Political Editor, The Spectator

Peter Mandelson - Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform

Anita Anand - Presenter, Radio 5 Live and BBC Two

Barack Obama - Democrat, President-Elect of the United States

The year of the flying pig

Total Politics makes some not wholly serious predictions about the political year ahead

January

February

March

April

May

June

UKIP leader Nigel Farage is ousted after his party's disastrous 2 per cent showing in the European elections. Speculation mounts that he will set up a new party called 'In Vino Veritas'.

July

August

September

October

November

December

I didn't know that Iain Dale found Farage so attractive!

To see the whole write up Click Here
Sadly 2008 has been yet another catastrophic year for the Party I wish I could vote for but EUkip has dumbed down with a crew that no one of any morality or integrity could vote for wittingly.

The levels of corruption, dishonesty and bullying that is EUkip under Farage and the weak and self seeking claque he has gathered has led to an undeniable collapse in membership and particularly activists - leaving behind the hopeless, the hapless and the morally bankrupt.

EUkip has been a great sucess for The BNP driving many into their arms in the realisation that EUkip has become the new Yob party led by spivs, the self seeking and the corrupt - kept in place with lies and bullying - intimidating the weak and the morally inept without integrity like Anthony Butcher. Exploiting the willingness of the scum that has been attracted to the rewards EUkip might give them - liars, the dishonest, the self seekers and the corrupt like McGough, Croucher, Denny, Andrew Smith, NuttAll, Moran, Bannerman, Andreasen, Malcolm Wood, Trevor Colman, Gawain Towler, Ma Zucherman, Reeve, Oxley, George Curtis, Derek Clark, Gerard Butten, Gill, Agnew, Wise and the rest of the political trash that are the wanabes of EUkip.

Many of the failures from EUkip who could see no future for themselves in The BNP can be expected to choose to move on and fail in Declan Ganley's Tory Light with an Irish Lilt Party the new political shandy which will prove light, frothy, alcopop sweet to apeal to political children and utterly without substance or after taste - as good a place as any for the serial failures to choose to fail for the future without upsetting anyone!
Just line up behind the serial failures who get there first seeking to throw their weight about in the new vacuum! NO leafletting nor The Web are the answer - first must come vision, integrity and morality THEN structure, strategy and tactics with visible internal democracy a structure to climb and a well defined series of goals - strangely having watched EUkip fail due to its total lack of ANY of these requirements Libertas seem unable to realise the need nor understand the concepts.

For Libertas to achieve ANYTHING one great lesson they MUST learn from EUkip's failure is that the greatest damage will be caused by that which one fears most and in EUkip's case that was intelligence, competence, comunications both up and down. EUkip has feared its critics and have made the fatal mistake of refusing to talk with them, clearly showing that the party has so little belief, confidence and understanding that they have used dishonesty, bullying and kangaroo courts to hide behind - even building its own Reichstag Fire moment by inventing a BNP plot that made the leadership look like the fools they are!

Such a sad outcome for the decent honest dreams of UKIP's founders and supporters who have been so shamefully betrayed and defrauded.
You may also like to see TotalPolitics.com's list of EUkip Blogs so do Click Here
Regards,
Greg L-W.
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Tuesday 30 December 2008

#216* - Nigel Farage & Declan Ganley: The 'beast' of friends

#216* - Nigel Farage & Declan Ganley: The 'beast' of friends


Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!


The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what
gives the remaining 10% a bad name!


EUkip LEADERSHIP HAVE SHOWN THEIR INCOMPETENCE IN ALL FORMS OF NEGOTIATION - FORCED WHEN FAILING TO INVENT BNP PLOTS & INFILTRATION TO JUSTIFY THEIR FAILURE!
Ganley may not be very ept Politically but he is not a fool!

You should all take Nigel Farage's hostile reaction to Declan Ganley ( pictured above) with a large pinch of salt. He is simply acting like anyone who has been soundly rejected. You need to remember that a few weeks ago he couldn’t praise Declan enough.

Nigel was rather eager to win the support of Mr Ganley as he knew that any party launched by him was bound to take votes away from UKIP and thus lessen Nigel‘s chances of getting re-elected to the EU Gravy Train.

During the summer Nigel was keen to woo Declan and so met him to discuss terms and conditions. Unfortunately, Nigel’s dictatorial tendencies soon kicked in and he demanded that he personally been given total control of any UK campaign financed by Mr Ganley. It was hardly surprising that Declan said no. The talks quickly broke down.

Thanks to Nigel’s ‘fuehrer complex' UKIP lost the best chance to win a major financial backer and thus prevent certain electoral defeat.

Thanks Nigel. With a clown like you 'leading' UKIP who needs an opposition!

Posted by Junius
Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#215* - YOU ASKED WHY I LEFT EUkip - Norman SCARTH

#215* - YOU ASKED WHY I LEFT EUkip - Norman SCARTH

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is
what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip HAVE A GREAT EXPERTISE IN MAKING ENEMIES OF THEIR MOST ARDENT SUPPORTERS!


Hi,

I am providing a platform for this letter - NOT because I xcan endorse its detailed statement but because I am aware that much of it rings true, from tyhe many many other people who have contacted me complaining of the shamefull behaviour of EUkip executive staff, NEC members and leadership who are unarguably corrupt, dishonest and bullying.

I am well aware of the lies of people like Croucher, Nuttall, Denny, Clark, Gulleford, Ma Zucherman, Batten, Wood, Challice, Curtis, Bannerman, McGough, Smith, Reeve and many more of the solids that has floated to the top in the septic tank of EUkip politics.

That they are able to bully the weak and the corrupt like little Anthony Butcher and his sad aid Brendan Padmore comes as no surprise - they are experienced at finding the weak and those without understanding of morality or integrity - one need only look at their own leadership of drunks, layabouts and liars and their self seeking MEPs and NEC.

It is not that the detail of Norman Scarth's denouncement is certainly true but that it has all the ring of truth when compared with known facts:

UK-IP: You ask why I left:

To: Nigel Farage, Leader,

Cc: to members of the UK-IP.

In a letter dated 1st October 2008 Office Manager David Challice reminded me that I had not renewed my membership, & asking if there was a reason.

On 6th November a lady rang from HQ with the same query.
I told her I would be writing.
She suggested I ring Regional Chairwoman Jill Collins (07845 489080) which I did.

We had a brief conversation, & told her also that I would be writing.

A little late perhaps, but I do so now:

The short answer is that I have realised that the party is as false & treacherous as the rest of them.

WHY do I say that?

A most terrible blot on the face of modern Britain is the ever increasing number of murderous attacks on the old & vulnerable. Almost unheard of until the 1960s, they are now an everyday occurrence. The main point of my manifesto when I stood at the 1997 General Election (as an Independent Old Age Pensioner) was my concern at the total LACK of concern from regular politicians about these diabolical crimes.

The thugs who attack the old are often addicts desperate for drug money.

SOMETIMES THEY ARE TREACHEROUS, SLIMY SADISTS LIKE GODFREY BLOOM MEP, a bigwig in the UK-IP!

At the AGM, 5th October 2007, there came the time for questions from the floor. I tried to ask mine. A mob of about 6 black-suited goons moved in quickly to throw me out. A rousing cheer for me from the 300 or so people present (& the fear of publicity like that following the ejection of Walter Wolfgang from the Labour Conference) caused the Afternoon Chairman to call the goons off, & I was in fact invited to speak from the platform.

I then told the truth about Godfrey Bloom MEP (who had been the Morning Chairman). I denounced him as ‘False-Flag Agent’, a traitor to the UK-IP, & to the Nation.

Afterwards, in the foyer, there was considerable interest in my leaflets. One artist member was very flattering in that he went on to produce a painting of me, entitled by him ‘Portrait of a Hero’ (a copy is sent as an attachment). Needless to say, the Report of the AGM did not include MY contribution!

You know of the War Crimes by Fony Blair’s Regime, but may not know of their diabolical crimes at home. Far from exposing them, Bloom is determined to cover them up - & ENSURE THEY CONTINUE!

A measure of Bloom’s treachery is that he gave a wonderfully warm handshake to one of Blair’s victims, before HIMSELF delivering a sadistic, slimy attack upon that victim, a World War II Veteran. How do I know this? I am that victim! It is no thanks to Bloom that I am alive & free.

YOU NOW KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT BLOOM, BUT APPEAR TO ACCCEPT THIS MONSTER. What does that say about the rest of the party?

Sunday 28th October 2008 I attended a Branch Meeting of Bradford UK-IP at the home of Chairman Jason Smith:

1, Woodland Avenue,
Clayton Heights,
Queensbury,
BRADFORD.
Jsmith@ukip-bradford.org.uk
www.ukip-bradford.org.uk

Present were Phillip Bird; David Nevin; Stewart Hanson; David Curtis & Jamie Illingworth.

None of them had been at the AGM.

They looked at my leaflets & listened respectfully to what I told them about Bloom but, strangely, there has been no interest since.

Next, the Haltemprice & Howden By-election:
It was caused by the resignation of David Davies MP, SUPPOSEDLY because of his opposition to the Bill to increase the time people could be kept in custody without charge, I had evidence that his libertarian stance was totally false, & decided to stand against him.

The Anti-Crime Party (founded by me) had not attracted the support hoped for, so I decided to stand as an ‘Independent’.

At the 2005 General Election UK-IP had a candidate, who received about 700 votes.

However, they were not contesting this time.

There was no conflict between myself as an Independent (or the A-CP), & the UK-IP, our policies on the European Union being identical. So, I wrote to UK-IP HQ, & to Jason Smith, asking them to urge UK-IP supporters in the constituency to vote for me. They did not do so, nor did they even acknowledge my request. Afterwards, I wrote to them expressing my disappointment. This time they did respond.

David Challice wrote from Head Office, saying, “... We do not know the intricacies of your policies as an Independent & I’m afraid it would be quite wrong for the UKIP Head Office to recommend you to other UKIP members ...”.

Jason Smith wrote saying much the same.

OBVIOUSLY, THEY HAVEN’T A CLUE ABOUT 'DEMOCRACY' IF THEY THINK YOU ONLY SUPPORT MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN PARTY.

It is common practice for Opposition to support Government on matters they agree with, & so they should.

That other Arch-hypocrite Tony Benn (Labour Left wing) supported the (purported) stance of David Davies (Tory Right Wing) on the ‘detention without trial’ issue. A pair of 'falsies' together. That does NOT mean that they are in complete agreement on everything.

At least I was treated with respect at the AGM in 2007. How different was my treatment at a hustings meeting in the Yorkshire & Humberside area on Monday 28th July 2008. It was to assess those seeking to be the UK-IP candidate for the area at the 2009 election for the European Parliament.

I tried to make the same point that he had made at the AGM – which SHOULD have been of interest to all!

A large lady from the top table & a smirking young thug made a beeline towards me to throw me out, but backed off when I defied them. The cowardly young thug refused to give his name when asked. It turns out he was treasurer for the Leeds Branch of the UK-IP.

Godfrey Bloom, the sitting MEP for Yorkshire & Humberside did not threaten violence - his attack was much dirtier! He sneered at me, “He is obviously ill”.

By co-incidence, a major news story that morning had told of some 50 or so women (all completely sane) who had been locked up FOR LIFE because they were typhoid carriers. This went on from 1907 up to 1992 – long after the invention of antibiotics ended the risk of death from typhoid.

Worst of all, they were NOT locked up in an isolation hospital, but in a lunatic asylum! As might have been expected, some of them DID become mentally ill.

I asked the candidates to comment: To his credit, one-time Labour Councillor David Daniels said it was outrageous.

Bloom could see nothing wrong in it (not surprising, he himself being party to the continuation of this diabolical State Crime, NOT against typhoid carriers, but against ‘dissidents’, whistleblower & writers - just as in Stalinist Russia!

The other 3 candidates, Jonathan Arnott, Jason Smith, & Toby Horton, did not think it worthy of comment.

From: Norman Scarth,
WW2 Veteran, Parliamentary Candidate,
Investigative Author & Publisher, SUCCESSFUL Law Reformer,
Associate of the Article 6 Group (International Human Rights Lawyers),
Founder & Leader of the Anti-Crime Party,

ADDRESS:
36 Anvil Court Chambers,
BRADFORD
BD8 7QW
Tel: (01274) 541 213.

Mobile: 0779 435 8691.
Email: enscarth@hotmail.com

The END as received from Norman Scarth, he has provided his contact details and you may ascertain for yourself the veracity of the detail.

I am happy to have published as I am aware that EUkip is now managed, controlled and exploited by a corrupt and dishonest cabal.

Consider the discreditted and dishonest Treasurer Marta Andreasen, the corrupt drunkard and womaniser who gained leadership through the corruption and dishonesty of his staff Annabelle Fuller, Mark Croucher and their corrupt ilk, or the deputy leader David Bannerman, who gained his position through lies and dishonesty - or their supporters like the rascal Andrew Smith whose dishonesty and lack of professional competence as Treasurer led to a guilty verdict in the courts and has exposed EUkip to forfeiture and costs risk of £1/2 > 1,000,000 through Judicial Review or his gofer Michael McGough who was happy to lie and deceive his friends for personal gain.

EUkip has NOTHING to offer the British electorate other than corruption, greed, self interest and betrayal. Liars - Cheats & Rascals.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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Sunday 28 December 2008

#214* - GANLEY NEGOTIATES FROM A CONFUSED POSITION!

#214* - GANLEY NEGOTIATES FROM A CONFUSED POSITION!


Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!



The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership & NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!


EU Reporter shows EUkip AND Ganley have muddled messages!


After our cover picture of Declan Ganley, the Anglo-Irish millionaire who financed Ireland’s no to the Lisbon Treaty campaign, was taken the leader of the United Kingdom Independence Party echoed his words and told supporters they must be more positive on Europe.

Nigel Farage was at the featured meeting with Mr Ganley in the European Parliament, as were a range of eurosceptics including the meeting’s organiser the Conservative MEP and journalist Danial Hannan (pictured right) and the Austrian journalist MEP Hans Peter Martin (pictured left). The BBC later quoted Mr Farage as saying to his annual conference in Bournmouth:
‘I think we have got to change some of the things that we have been saying and some of the things that we have been doing."

A former Conservative Mr Farage added: "
We have not been offering good positive alternatives and what I want us to do is to paint a vision of a 21st Century relationship between Britain and our European neighbours.’’

Danial Hannan, a writer and executive editor of the right wing Daily Telegraph told us that he organized the parliament’s Ganley meeting under the loose euro-sceptic SOS Democracy movement.

"It was an open meeting and anyone was welcome," he said.

He would not be drawn on rumours circulating that Nigel Farage is preparing to move with some of his colleagues to the Conservative camp.

Mr Hannan is frequently seen dining with Mr Farage and after lunching at the Porto Fino restaurant last week they were seen returning to the parliament in deep conversation. Mr Hannan has been writing positive things in his telegraph blog that can be explained as journalistic objectivity or differently interpreted as politically significant.

He wrote on August 24:
"The UK Independence Party has had a makeover. Go to their website and you will find a fetching new logo involving butterflies.

Their point is to emphasise independence as a theme: not just the independence of the state, but also the independence of the citizen from the state.

"It’s potentially a very powerful combination. A similar formula was adopted by my favourite political party in the world, the Independence Party of Iceland...which has enjoyed 60 years of more-or-less uninterrupted power."

That he wrote the blog just days after Mr Farage visited Iceland to meet political leaders is curious unless of course the idea for the blog was generated at another lunch between the two friends.

When we spoke to Mr Hannan he said that UKIP has been having problems and that the party has just been through a "bitter and divisive" selection process.

But he was adamant that:
"I have absolutely no indication that Nigel is about to move out of the UKIP leadership. So far as I am aware he will be standing against me in the South East of England."

UKIP has been locked in legal disputes and these have begun to spill over to involve other eurosceptics, some of them in the Tory camp. Looked at objectively Mr Farage and his colleagues have been suffering increasing, and apparently politically motivated, attention from OLAF, the EU anti-fraud office and from anonymous complaints to UK police about expenses and allowances.

No charges have yet been brought.

Since when did OLAF accept anonymous complaints?
That EU institutions should be, apparently, engaged in persecuting elected representatives that the institutions have no reason to like in such a way is questionable to say the least. More significantly Conservative MEPs who publicly favour keeping their party in the existing centre right EPP-ED grouping have been on the receiving end of similar accusations.

UKIP may have undermined its moral high ground in this respect by planting media stories.
We have copies of an email from one UKIP candidate.

Right wing Conservative sceptics are also in the frame for feeding stories to the right wing euro-sceptic media in London. So far none of the accused has been brought to account by the parliament authorities for breach of the accounting rules let alone misuse of funds. Currently some half of all MEPs is under investigation pointing to a poor parliamentary administration system rather than fraud.

Meanwhile European Commission officials and others have been adamantly stating that "American neo-con money" is being used to fund eurosceptic movements.

Declan Ganley denied receiving American funds.

According to Labour MEP Richard Corbett writing in his own blog:
"He refused to answer questions as to where his "Libertas" No campaign obtained its massive financial resources." Mr Hannan would not be drawn on progress in forming a new right wing alliance beyond saying: "Our [eurosceptic] intention and that of David Cameron to leave the EPP is well known. We have accords with Czech and Polish parties but first we have to see the outcome of the European election next year. We are in a position to form the third largest group in the European Parliament.So it’s all just an amazing coincidence then?

To view the original of this story in EU Reporter

EUkip's attempts to realign as a pro EU Reformist Party have been widely noted and although obviously seen amongst the leadership, particularly when you note the various sell outs and the failure of leadership, which has been followed up by appointment of high profile, and largely discreditted, staff who support EU membership - 'Gone Native' seems ever more appropriate!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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Saturday 27 December 2008

#213* - EUkip PUTS ANOTHER SPOKE IN ITS OWN WHEEL

#213* - EUkip PUTS ANOTHER SPOKE IN ITS OWN WHEEL


Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership

& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%

a bad name!


EUkip WOULD SEEM TO HAVE PUTS ANOTHER SPOKE IN ITS OWN WHEEL MAKING ENEMIES WHERE FRIENDS ARE NEEDED.

IT IS NOT BNP INFILTRATION EUkip SHOULD FEAR IT IS ITS OWN BLATANT INCOMPETENCE!


Followers of the slow train wreck of EUkip may well find an article on Libertas UK worth reading - to view the article Click Here


Regards,

Greg L-W.

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Thursday 25 December 2008

#212* - EUkip MEP's SHAMEFULL HARASSMENT OF A MEMBER

#212* - EUkip MEP's SHAMEFULL HARASSMENT OF A MEMBER

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

When EUkip's MEPs Start Using iffy Firms of Solicitors Who Don't Check Their Facts!!!

Hi,

In this season of goodwill to find Jeffrey Titford and that creepy little Gollom using solicitors dishonestly to harass decent loyal and hard working members of UKIP does nothing but bring what is left of this sordid party into disrepute.











May I take the liberty of advising Messrs. Gepp & Sons, allegedly solicitors, of 58 New London Road, Chelmsford that they are utterly shoddy for failing to check their facts, totally venal for acting as a tool for harassment or completely incompetent for the inaccuracy of the law they have invented!

It ill becomes a so called solicitor to quite clearly engage in an act of harassment in clear and unarguable breech of the 1997 Protection from Harassment Act.

Messrs. Gepp & Sons whether legitimate or bastard bring the British Justice system into disrepute by their squalid act of harassment and dishonest misrepresentation of facts, for and on behalf of their client who would seem to be the self serving and utterly dishonest Jeffrey Titford.

Shame on you Titford for bringing EUkip into further disrepute - EUkip, particularly in YOUR Eastern Region is a disgrace and a root and branches shame to the body politic. Riddled with fools like yourself, liars, bullies and cheats like Gulleford, Michael McGough, David Bannerman, George Curtis, Peter Reeve, Lisa Duff, Andrew Smith not to mention the lower orders of sychophants seeking preferment like Stuart Agnew, Smith, Wittmore and more with and without Wit.

Jeffrey Titford you were a failure as a leader - though it must be admitted the best to hand in a lack lustre party, you were a disgrace as a candidate, a joke as an MEP and your legacy is the collapse of EUkip in shame and disgrace.

HOW DARE YOU USE YOUR ILL GOTTEN INCOME TO ABUSE AND HARASS THE VERY MEMBERS WHO PLACED YOU IN YOUR CUSHY JOB WHERE YOU HAVE FAILED THE PEOPLE ON EVERY COUNT.

BREAK THE HABITS OF A LIFETIME & BE MAN ENOUGH TO PUBLISH AN APOLOGY AND WITHDRAW YOUR DISHONEST HARASSMENT.




SHAME ON YOU JEFFREY TITFORD & SHAME ON THE PARTY THAT LETS YOU CONTINUE TO DRAG THEM INTO YOUR GUTTER.




You Grubby little bully!




GO NOW & take that oleagenous little parasitic creep Gulleford with you.

I was amused to note you had duped the fool of a solicitor into using the idiotic statement that a repetition of the facts would constitute 'defamation of our client's character' - there's a joke! Firstly WHAT repetition since your original claim is provably without substance and thus dishonest - since you have lied to your solicitor what character and how could someone of such shameful character be defamed?

Do note it was I who provided the information to the media BECAUSE IT WAS TRUE.

Further it was I who made public the Police Investigation Number and also The OLAF investigation Number and I placed these facts in the public domain.

Jeffrey Titford you are a particularly stupid little man and it is with hindsight that I regret having made you leader of EUkip as it was clear at the time and irrefutable now that you would never have become leader of EUkip had I not intervened - you lacked the ability, the leadership skills, the dilligence or the intelligence and your idiotic posturing now makes that abundantly clear.

Perhaps you would care to advise people just how well you EVER did in an election that was not dependent on the list system! I suggest you roll your trouser up - pop your apron on and run along and play - your time in EUkip is over!


In Contempt,
Greg L-W.


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Wednesday 24 December 2008

#211* - EUkip's MEMBERSHIP COLLAPSE IS EXPLAINABLE

#211* - EUkip's MEMBERSHIP COLLAPSE IS EXPLAINABLE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip's MEMBERSHIP HAS LEFT IN DROVES DUE TO TOTAL LACK OF LEADERSHIP & LEADERSHIP DISHONESTY!
Len Baynes, pictured first on the left with his wife, is the founder member of two UKIP branches and is currently the Treasurer of UKIP Fenland in Cambridgeshire. He recently sent an email to Nigel Farage and the NEC. The email concerned the recent mock EU referendum organised in Luton for TV.

It was returned by Farage UNREAD.


The size of the membership that has quit?

The NEC has spilt over &
he's cleaning the mess?

His indifference to the members?



> To:

> CC: etc. @yahoo.co.uk

> Subject: Fw: Not read: Luton mock referendum

> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:42:48 +0000

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> From: "FARAGE Nigel" nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu

> To: "Len Baynes" lenbay@tiscali.co.uk


> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:17 AM

> Subject: Not read: Luton mock referendum

> > > Your message

> > To: ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk; shawforddavid@hotmail.com;

> alanbown@btinternet.com; del1young@yahoo.co.uk;

> jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; susan@keymerhaslam.co.uk;

> eric.edmond@tiscali.co.uk; cgill36@hotmail.co.uk; dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk;

> douglas.denny@btopenworld.com; lisa.duffy2@tesco.net;

> mazuckerman@bensonmazure.co.uk; FARAGE Nigel; derekclark@hotmail.co.uk;


> Cc: petercole@tomwisemep.co.uk; Derek Norman

> Subject: Luton mock referendum

> Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:33:21 +0100


> > was deleted without being read on Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:17:33 +0100


Mouth Open - Brain Out Of Gear As Usual!

No signs of leadership ability here! A long term member and Founder Branch Chairman of at least 2 Branches - Len Baynes - wrote to his party leader with copies to the NEC and others in the leadership, with serious concerns and suggestions (which I have removed as they are of internal relevance).

Nigel Farage shows the full extent of his leadership ability and his skill at delegating complex tasks like secreterial duties!!

Is it any wonder that with this clown as leader EUkip has achieved absolutely nothing to get Britain one INCH closer to leaving the EU.

He was probably much too busy thinking with his little head rather than use his big head to actually acquit his duty for which he is paid a great deal more than he is worth - answering the questionms of the members and delegating constructive behaviour since clearly he is without the competence to act like other than a spoilt child with a rejection complex!


Just look at the collapse in membership since Farage took over - says it all - there are NO EXCUSES.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#210* - EUkip NEC ELECTION STATEMENT THEY ARE SCARED OF!

#210* - EUkip NEC ELECTION STATEMENT THEY ARE SCARED OF!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip's EFFORTS TO SUPPRESS THE TRUTH



Subject: The NEC election statement you are unlikely to see


Dear all,
I hope you enjoy this. It's my NEC election statement.
The leadership is determined to stop me standing so it seems unlikely that the members will get the chance to read it.
Best wishes,
John West

The NEC exists to represent the interests of our members.
They should fight for transparency, democracy and justice.
The current NEC is failing in that duty. Democratically elected member of UKIP’s NEC have been removed. Others face expulsion from the party for daring to raise unpalatable questions about the way UKIP is run. This must stop.
I will resist any proposed changes to the constitution that give the chairman dictatorial powers. Far too much emphases is now placed on fighting the Euro elections. This attitude must change. UKIP must concentrate on fighting Westminster elections.
Without MPs we can do nothing.
I will fight for a National Leadership team that concentrates on fighting national and local elections. Talent in UKIP must be encouraged to flourish without the fear of censure. All MEPs accounts must be open to scrutiny. A full audit of the Ind Dem Group’s finances must also be undertaken.

I guess with an election address that so represents the MEMBERS & not the leadership and the self interested claque of parasites that are the NEC & Leadership of EUkip it is hardly a surprise that EUkip's corrupt leadership will do anything they can to block out the light of truth that John West was determined to shine on the corruption.

The leadership cheated and lied to protect their positions and ensure their self interest to prevent John West assuming the seat he was elected to - Just as they dishonestly removed Dr. Eric Edmond & Dr. David Abbott both elected members with unimpeachable records who threatened the corruption that is endemic amongst the liars and cheats that have formed EUkip's leadership and NEC and have reduced the membership numbers from 30,000 in 2004 based on hope and expectation to a realistic 4-8,000 in the realisation of what a disgrace EUkip has become rudderless, leaderless and without morality, integrity or financial honesty under Nigel Farage's control, as no one could call this leadership.

We note that having lied and cheated to remove the ONLY two elected members of the NEC of any stature the inept self seeking rabble left are engineering the Constitution to enshrine their dishonesty, manipulate to protect their access to the gravy train and cheat to ensure their control of the levers of power at the expense of the members and to the cost of our Country and the liberty of our peoples.

We note that so frightened are they of the truth becoming known they lie and cheat to block applicants.

At the start of the conversation I gather their salarierd liar David Challis gave much bluster about blocking John West from standing on the grounds that his application was in too late! They even contrived to provide a copy of an envelope with a date stamp showing it was too late! How one wonders could they expect to dupe people, let alone John West into believing any old envelope was relevant! Let alone one with some strange hand writing.

When this was pointed out - all of a sudden they have kept none of the envelopes! What they did not make allowance for was that John West mailed his application Recorded Delivery!!

So on to the next lie - 'well your application hasn't arrived' - OK so why did they mail a copy of an envelope with the letter saying it was too late!!! The liars that now run EUkip, some 5 or 6 lies later then claimed 'Well your application isn't valid because we have suspended you'!!!!

SHAME ON EUkip - wasn't it just this sort of corruption and dishonesty that EUkip MEPs were elected to expose in the EU - Not use as a self enrichment scam!

Well they do say that in a septic tank the scum rises - just look at the NEC! Can YOU identify a single individual on EUkip's NEC you would be proud to identify as a friend and entrust with the management of YOUR business and finances - JUST ONE?
EUkip's Leadership, NEC & MEPs are without exception a disgrace to the sordid world of Politics.


Regards,
Greg L-W.
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Tuesday 23 December 2008

#209* - Marta ANDREASEN DISCREDITTED IN EUkip!

#209* - Marta ANDREASEN DISCREDITTED IN EUkip!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership & NEC
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip's EFFORTS TO CLEAN-UP THEIR ACCOUNTS
SEEM TO GATHER A NEW CONTRAST!



The OECD and the European Commission both claim Marta Andreasen misrepresented her CV when she applied for jobs at both organizations.
Both organizations were at fault in not rigorously checking her CV and her references.When Andreasen was suspended from her job by the European Commission, she appealed to the Public Service Court claiming, among other things, one million euros in compensation.
Here are enclosed part of the judgment of the Public Service Court in 2007.221 In this case, it is first necessary to note that in its report to the Disciplinary Board, before 6 April 2004, the appointing authority retained the following allegations upon the applicant:
- Matters defamatory and insulting towards MM, Mme Schreyer and MG, thus compromising their honour in violation of articles 11 and 12 of the former statute;
- Concealment, during her recruitment by the Commission, of the suspension of her functions within the OECD, in violation of Article 12 of the former statute;
- Repeated non-respect of instructions from her superiors in violation of Article 21 of the former statute;
- Breach of her duty of discretion in addressing directly, without the authorization of her superiors, the President and members of the Court of Auditors, members of Parliament and the general public, in violation of Article 17 of the former statute;
- Absence without permission on 1 August 2002 in violation of Article 60 of the former statute; - Public statements without permission and repeatedly, in spite of clear and repeated violation of articles 11, 12 and 21 of the former statute;
- Participation in public events organized by others as an advocate without prior permission from the appointing authority, in violation of articles 12, 17 and 21 of the former statute.
222
In its opinion of 10 September 2004, the Disciplinary Board considered that the merits of those complaints had been demonstrated by the appointing authority.
After hearing the applicant and carrying out the assessment of the case, the appointing authority concluded in the decision that she "[had] repeatedly and knowingly acted in violation of the obligations arising from Articles 11, 12, 17 and 21 of the [former] statute " ( " had repeatedly and knowingly acted in disregard of the obligations set out in the Articles 11, 12, 17 and 21 of the Staff Regulations ").
223
It must next be seen, given the records of the applicant, that she does not dispute the materiality of the facts in regard to the allegation of concealment of her suspension from the OECD when she was recruited to the Commission. As for other complaints, she actually raises the error committed by the appointing authority in the evaluation of facts which he is charged.
224
Consequently, it is necessary, on the one hand, to check if the appointing authority could indeed consider the concealment of the suspension of applicant from the OECD as established at the time when it made the contested decision and, on the other hand, to examine whether the appointing authority did not make a glaring error in the appreciation of the other objections.
- On the concealment of information in recruitment
225
It is undisputed that the appointing authority does not have direct proof that the applicant, during her recruitment, concealed the suspension from which she was then subject within the OECD. The appointing authority has, however, built on the reasoning conducted by the Disciplinary Board, from a body of evidence, to infer the existence of this concealment.
226
It follows, indeed, the decision that, in essence, the appointing authority concluded that she had hidden, during her recruitment, her suspension from duty within the OECD, owing to the fact that, firstly, the curriculum vitae which she had submitted to the Commission did not indicate the suspension which she was serving within this organization.
The wording even suggests that she worked there when she applied to the Commission.
The same is true of the application which does not mention the suspension, despite the declaration signed by the applicant that she had provided all information sincerely and completely.
Secondly, the applicant did not declare the suspension at any moment during recruitment interviews with Mme Schreyer, MM and the external consultant involved in the recruitment procedure.
In this regard, the applicant’s argument that she informed MM orally of the suspension is contradicted by the fact he was reluctant to recruit the applicant and would have certainly indicated the suspension to the appointing authority if he had been informed.
Admittedly, the appointing authority was informed of the difficulties encountered in her work within the OECD, but none of the officials of this institution contacted by MM would have revealed the suspension.
227
In its defence, the Commission also argues that the applicant’s reliance on the fact that some newspapers had reported the suspension of her functions within the OECD, tends to confirm that she remains unable to prove she declared that suspension to the Commission.
It also stresses that the applicant does not attempt in her pleadings to challenge the presentation of facts by the Disciplinary Board, in its opinion of 10 September 2004.
In addition, the Commission, citing the transcript of the interview that she gave to the BBC on 3 October 2002, notes that she expressly stated that she had not informed the Commission of the suspension to which she was subject within the OECD.
228
To determine whether this is sufficient to establish that the applicant has concealed certain information to the Commission in her recruitment, it should be noted, firstly, that the Tribunal is unable to check the contents of the curriculum vitae and the application form filled in by the applicant, not having these documents.
229
It should however be noted that the applicant can in no way refute the Commission's assertions about these documents.
In addition, it is important to note that, neither in her complaint, nor in her reply, does the applicant contest the version of facts as reported by the Disciplinary Board.
In particular, she does not respond to the Commission's argument that MM, reluctant to recruit her, would not have hesitated to inform the appointing authority of the suspension to which the applicant was subject within the OECD, if he had been informed. Similarly, the applicant does not comment on the content of her interview with the BBC on 3 October 2002.
It should be noted finally that, in her pleadings, she stresses the shortcomings of the recruitment procedure in that the Commission did not take the initiative to learn, but does not demonstrate that she actually informed the Commission of her suspension.
230
From all these considerations, it follows that the appointing authority was entitled to consider that the applicant had hidden, during her recruitment by the Commission, the suspension to which she was subject within the OECD.
231
This conclusion cannot be invalidated by the applicant’s argument that the initial contacts between her and the Commission were directed through her private address in Barcelona and show that the institution knew she was no longer in OECD, which is based in Paris. Indeed, one can not deduce, from this circumstance, the fact that she informed the Commission of her suspension from the OECD.
- On the ignorance of the duties of loyalty and discretion because of certain statements made by the applicant
One wonders if UKIP ever received a written application for the job of Treasurer from Andreasen?
Was this rigorously checked?
Were references taken up?
Were her academic qualifications checked with the issuing authority?
Did the NEC check the reasons why she left the OECD and the EC?
If none of these things were done, the NEC plainly failed in its duties.
One wonders in some astonishment at the utter irresponsibility, complete incompetence and staggering unprofessionalism of EUkip - they aspire to Governance, seek and solicit our votes and betray us on almost every count - recruiting staff based not upon ability or conventional grounds but because their smile and attributes attract senior members whilst serving in shops, or having fake titles or suitable body shapes.

It is not just the sexual nature of some employment, or so it would seem, but what expertise do such as Reeve, Arnott, Bannerman, Nuttall and their ilk bring to the job?

Similarly how can someone with the incredible incompetence of first Denny and his serial dishonesty and now Ma Zucherman's undeniable lack of competence or professionalism as Party Secretary be considerred credible!

Now EUkip has no competent leader, a totally discreditted and unarguably dishonest and corrupt Treasurer, a hopeless inadequate unelected Chairman, liars, rogues and rascalls propping up the undeniable incompetence and endemic dishonesty of the NEC & Leadertship.

EUkip leadership lacks a single solitary trustworthy officer - NOT ONE INDIVIDUAL remaining in EUkip's leadership could be trusted with money, which they fail to account and trust which they serially betray.

As a long term supporter of UKIP its present leadership team disgusts me - I am clearly not alone as will be shown by the alternative list of UKIP members who will stand and campaign against the corruption that is EUkip in June.

I can NOT believe that people like Lord Pearson, Lord Willoughby de Broke, Dr. Bob Spink MP, Prof. Tim Condon, The Earl of Dartford and their ilk are merely stunningly stupid - one is forced to ask what they hope to gain by prostituting their reputations to involvement with the liars, cheats, low lifes and self seekers that are EUkip's leadership and NEC.
Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#208* - Christopher BOOKER & Bill JAMIESON'S LETTER of 2000

#208* - Christopher BOOKER & Bill JAMIESON'S LETTER of 2000

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

Christopher BOOKER & Bill JAMIESON'S LETTER MAILED BY ME TO EVERY UKIP MEMBER DURING THE 2000 LEADERSHIP CONTEST!

VERBATIM COPY of SIGNED LETTER:

To: All Members of the UKIP National Executive

From: Bill Jamieson and Christopher Booker

9 March 2000

UKIP Leadership Election

As two Sunday Telegraph columnists who have been among UKIP's most active allies in the media, and who have to a certain extent staked our journalistic credibility on our support for the Party, may we express our particularly deeply felt concerns over the present leadership elections?

It is clearly vital, from everyone's point of view, that UKIP should choose a leader who can command the widest possible support both inside and outside the Party; and in this context it is our strongly held view that this must mean choosing a NEW leader. The past year has seen far too many embarrassments and missed opportunities for there to be anything other than a complete break with the past.

But, in terms of our public support for UKIP, we regret it is equally vital that the Party should choose someone whose analysis of the nature and failings of the European Union is based on a serious, up-to-date understanding of how and why the EU is developing in the way it is; and not some wider conspiracy theory which, however compelling to a minority of members, cannot be shared by the vast majority.

We believe at least one of the candidates for the leadership falls into this latter category, Mr. Rodney Atkinson. It is our personal concern that any leader holding such views might take the Party in directions where it would be impossible for us to follow, as we would sadly have to make clear.

We very much hope the members of UKIP will choose a leader who can take the Party forward on the broadest possible front, and in a way to which we can both continue to give our enthusiastic support.

with our good wishes

SIGNATURE SIGNATURE
Bill Jamieson Christopher Booker

Monday 22 December 2008

#207* - EUkip beset by liars then and now 2000 & 2008

#207* - EUkip beset by liars then and now 2000 & 2008!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

BUTCHER'S PLATFORM AS EVER READY TO MISREPRESENT!

Hi,

Here in Green is the posting made recently by Michael McGough, using the laxity and willingness of Butcher & Padmore to provide a platform for misrepresentation, McGough who has been clearly proven as duplicitous and dishonest willingly cheating his friends and duping his associates for his personal gain - a man seemingly without understanding of morality.

You will note the efforts made by the likes of McGough, Croucher & Bob F-M aided by Butcher & Padmore to vend the same dishonest misrepresentation as that which such as Longman, Speight, Hockney, Bullen, Gulleford, Cole and their ilk were all too willing to peddle to suit their personal ambitions.

Like Mark Croucher and his ilk of today a few facts taken out of place and distorted as a tissue of lies to suit their personal gain is all too visible.

Take for instance the posting by Martin Col;e below which dullards like McGough quote out of context almost 9 years later:

The GLW E-Mail that made UKIP 'What It Is'

The Greg Lance-Watkin's e-mail that Blew Apart the last UKIP Leadership Election and delivered the party into the hands of the Cabal that controls it to this day is quoted in full below.

First a boast from Greg Lance-Watkins to Eurocritical on 15th March 2000 as to what he had achieved:-
I am also not only aware of, but personally responsible for, the mailing of an open letter from Mr. Christopher Booker and Mr. Bill Jamieson, both accredited columnists in the Broad Sheet Press and well known in the media, which makes it abundantly clear, with logical reasons, that UKIP would loose their very valuable support, should Mr. Holmes or Mr. Atkinson become leader of UKIP.

And here the e-mail sent by Greg Lance-Watkins to Nigel Farage in Brussels, confirming that the conspiracy was underway. (NB: this came to us anonymously but we have sought verification as to its authenticity from various participants to these events, several of whom have confirmed that this was the version circulated).

Quote Day, Time and Date are Available but witheld.

Subject: Mr. C. Booker & Mr. W. Jamieson & UKIP
To: nfarage@europarl.eu.int (Nigel FARAGE)

Hi,

please find keyed in below a letter from Bill Jamieson & Christopher Booker.
To; All Members of the UKIP National Executive

I mailed hard copies of the letter to EVERY member of the NEC and they were scheduled to arrive before the NEC meeting at 1600hrs on Thursday 16th. March 2000.

I have authority to distribute this to ANY other interested parties and therefore have typed it out in FULL below [the spelling typos are mine!]. I have taken the liberty of removing the address of the original authors but you may contact them through myself.

VERBATIM COPY of SIGNED LETTER STARTS:
To:
All Members of the UKIP National Executive
From:
Bill Jamieson and Christopher Booker 9 March 2000 UKIP Leadership Election As two Sunday Telegraph columnists who have been among UKIP's most active allies in the media, and who have to a certain extent staked our journalistic credibility on our support for the Party, may we express our particularly deeply felt concerns over the present leadership elections?

It is clearly vital, from everyone's point of view, that UKIP should choose a leader who can command the widest possible support both inside and outside the Party; and in this context it is our strongly held view that this must mean choosing a NEW leader.

The past year has seen far too many embarrassments and missed opportunities for there to be anything other than a complete break with the past. But, in terms of our public support for UKIP, we regret it is equally vital that the Party should choose someone whose analysis of the nature and failings of the European Union is based on a serious, up-to-date understanding of how and why the EU is developing in the way it is; and not some wider conspiracy theory which, however compelling to a minority of members, cannot be shared by the vast majority.

We believe at least one of the candidates for the leadership falls into this latter category, Mr. Rodney Atkinson. It is our personal concern that any leader holding such views might take the Party in directions where it would be impossible for us to follow, as we would sadly have to make clear.

We very much hope the members of UKIP will choose a leader who can take the Party forward on the broadest possible front, and in a way to which we can both continue to give our enthusiastic support.

with our good wishes
SIGNATURE SIGNATURE
Bill Jamieson Christopher Booker

END OF VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF LETTER.

Please be advised:
1 I believe the support of these two leading journalists and media individuals for UKIP is essential to the future well-being of UKIP.
2 Both these journalists have spoken in support of UKIP frequently, both on UKIP 'platforms' and others.
3 They are unequivocal that they, if Mr. Holmes or Mr. Atkinson were elected as leader of UKIP, 'would sadly have to make clear' they no longer supported UKIP.
4 To ensure equal distribution of this information and fairness I am mailing copies of this letter to UKIP members and hopefully copies will arrive with every member of UKIP, eligible to vote in the leadership election.
5 I am fully authorised to put this letter in the public domain. I would ask ALL who are eligible to vote in the leadership election to VOTE as soon as possible, mindful of the caveat Mr. Booker & Mr. Jamieson have given. PLEASE be sure to vote as a good turnout grants the NEW Leader a stronger mandate to fight to defend Britain against foreign rule, whether you consider yourself to be a UKIP[Labour] or UKIP[Tory] or a UKIP purist YOUR VOTE COUNTS.

The NEW Leader and new NEC, with your backing, can take the Party forward in a spirit of consensus and with zeal to fight the real enemy without rather than resolving internal matters.

May I take the opportunity of wishing the new NEC and the NEW leader my congratulations and good fortune in the defence of Britain.

If you have ANY questions regarding the context of this 'e'mail please do not hesitate to contact me.

Please be assured that I will not presume to give advice on my suggestions for leader ONLY facts where I am able to provide them.

Good luck & if I can help you in your efforts in defence of the British peoples and our Nation or the rights and freedoms of any peoples against the EU, NAFTA, WTO, IMF, OWG, NWO etc. please just ask.

Do visit our shop, if you are ever in the area, we are open from 10.30ish. till 5.30pm., 6 days a week.
Regards,
Greg Greg Lance - Watkins,
The Welsh Assembly,
c/o Glance Back Books,
17 Upper Church Street,
CHEPSTOW,
NP16 5EX
Monmouthshire,
Britain.

Unquote This from the man with whom UKIP supposedly has no connection, Greg Lance-Watkins
TO the man that the whole world knows is the de facto head of UKIP, Nigel Farage!!
posted by Martin
12:13 PM

I stand by the FACTS of what I said, in the context of the time. I was right in my action then in the light of every fact available at the time.

You will note that the posting by Martin Cole starts out with:

The GLW E-Mail that made UKIP 'What It Is'
In as far as ANY action that supercedes another contributes to making the outcome - this is just pretentious wording by Martin Cole to make his chosen interpretation seem worthy!

The Greg Lance-Watkin's e-mail that Blew Apart the last UKIP Leadership Election and delivered the party into the hands of the Cabal that controls it to this day is quoted in full below.
Yes I decided to try to strengthen UKIP & give it a future just as did Christopher Booker & Bill Jamieson - I agree TOTALLY with the sentiment and facts that they put forward in their letter and because I agreed I asked THEM for their permission to widely distribute their letter which I did.

We did NOT hand the party to any cabal - we avoided it falling into the hands of one at the time - which seems greatly to have drawn the venom of the thwarted cabal, who had hoped to gain control of UKIP.

First a boast from Greg Lance-Watkins to Eurocritical on 15th March 2000 as to what he had achieved:- I am also not only aware of, but personally responsible for, the mailing of an open letter from Mr. Christopher Booker and Mr. Bill Jamieson, both accredited columnists in the Broad Sheet Press and well known on the media, which makes it abundantly clear, with logical reasons, that UKIP would loose their very valuable support, should Mr. Holmes or Mr. Atkinson become leader of UKIP.
Firstly - NOT a boast but a statement of fact, openly stated to prevent a witchunt were it not an action identified to one person. Secondly my posting was made to 'EUroRealist' - I mailed the letter as widely as I was able, with the aim to influence the election as I personally considered in the best interests of these United Kingdoms and the best hopes of our liberation from the EEC of the time.

And here the e-mail sent by Greg Lance-Watkins to Nigel Farage in Brussels,
Dishonestly Martin Cole and his sleazy little coterie at the time imply I mailed this to Farage as stated - they conveniently and dishonestly singled him out from several 1,000 people who received the eMail. A corrupt misrepresentation perpetuated by the corrupt and the dishonest to this day!

confirming that the conspiracy was underway.
The ONLY conspiracy was the conspiracy of dishonesty in misrepresentation of the FACTS which are that I obrtained a copy of Christopher Booker & Bill Jamieson's letter and I decided without consultation to obtain their position and circulate the letter - which I did.

I notified Nigel Farage at the same as many many others including every NEC member and officer whom I had eMail addresses of.

(NB: this came to us anonymously but we have sought verification as to its authenticity from various participants to these events, several of whom have confirmed that this was the version circulated).
Doesn't this make this circular mailed and eMailed to over 10,000 people sound dramatic and make Martin Cole sound important!

Quote Day, Time and Date are Available but witheld.
The best place to get the details is have a look at the postmark on any of the 1,000s of envelopes - they were standard white letter envelopes! The eMails will all have been headlined as eMails always are.

Subject: Mr. C. Booker & Mr. W. Jamieson & UKIP
To: nfarage@europarl.eu.int (Nigel FARAGE)
And of course a few 1,000 others!

It rather shows just how easy it is to take quite simple facts and portray them in a manner which becomes a lie - as with the comments of people like Brendan Padmore who is so stupid he doesn't even know the extent to which he assistas the EU. The world is full of useful idiots!

The level of dishonesty is simple misrepresentation by the corrupt - the dishonesty amongst those with personal ambitions in 2000 was not disimilar to the lies and dishonesties of Mark Croucher, Douglas Denny, Brendan Padmore, Anthong Butcher and their ilk today - some deliberate dishonesty others just gullible stupidity and some out of self interested weakness.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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Saturday 20 December 2008

#206* - PETITION IN DESPARATION BUT GOOD LUCK!

#206* - PETITION IN DESPARATION BUT GOOD LUCK!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership & NEC
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

A DESPARATE ATTEMPT THAT DESERVES SUPPORT:


Hi,

I can well understand the frustration at being stiffled by the utter inactivity with regard to trying to leave the EU shown by EUkip who have made it very clear they are a pro EU reformist Party WHATEVER THEY MAY PRETEND!

Do remember that Farage actively tried to undermine the principles on which he and his fellow MEPs were elected.

1. EUkip are members of the PRO EU IndDemGroup

2. Derek Clark betrayed Britain in collusion with Farage and signed up to GREATER Subsidiarity TO the EU for Britain.

3. No meaningfull effort was made to oppose the New Constitution Lisbon Treaty by EUkip.

4. A pro EU Reformist has been drafted in as Treasurer from abroad!!

5. EUkip MEPs have agreed to work WITH EU committees to make them stronger so that they can exert GREATER authority over member states.

EUkip is now seen as the most active pro EU Reformist Party and at the last NEC Farage actively put the proposition that EUkip should attempt to reallign as a Reformist Party - no doubt to try to gain personal electoral advantage and also get his sticky fingers on more money for himself!

Thankfully and probably one of the last things of value little Chocolate Button will do before melting away to his BT Telephone shop and abandonning London to The BNP. Come to think of it I can't think of anything else he has done to justify his huge income!

Well Little Batten did at least fight Farage on this issue and even swung his puppet committee against him, no doub even for these useless articles it was a step too far. So much for Farage getting his sticky fingers into Declan Ganley's honey pot.

Well done Len Baynes - just as I thought all the initiative of UKIP had got up and gone strangled by the corruption of EUkip and its leadership.

IF I CAN HELP LEN - you know where I am!

Due to the total inactivity of the present leadership of ukip in this country, where it matters most. I intend to start a petition, I want letters sent to me stating the fact that the British people demand a referendum on whether Britain should STAY IN or GET OUT of the E.U.
If you are already of a mind to get out then please mark your envelopes

E.U. G.O.N. (get out now.)


I will then hopefully fill my approx 250 cubic foot box trailer with sacks of mail which I will personally deliver to NO 10. Anybody wishing to join a convoy are more than welcome.
I intend to do this on Sunday the 1st of February 2009 and hopefully I will meet many like minded people on my way down the M11. For those of you in the N.E. Cambs and near areas I shall be leaving the Three Tuns Pub in Doddington Nr. March Cambs at 10am on the day

Letters should be sent to me at:

Len .Baynes,
1 Fairview Avenue,
Chatteris,

PE16 6QW.

tele. 01354 - 693 144
Mob. 07879 - 285 725

I am obviously looking for support, but more importantly please pass the message on , we have been far to long out of the limelight in this country and I feel the leadership are completely ignoring action in this country and with or without their sanction I intend to go on with this.
Len. Baynes


May I presume to suggest - IF your petition is to have any validity firtly you MUST use the approved wording, secondly EACH must use the same wording, you MUST have every single one signed. Each must be signed WITH post code.

You MUST state how and where and to whom it is to be delivered.

May I suggest that you promise to provide the stamp off of every envelope to a BRITISH Based Charity - May I make a special pleading for Kidney Cancer :-(

You will remember that some time ago EUkip boosted £250,000 from IndDemGroup funds plus other money for a Petition and no one ever knew if the money went into the pockets of David Lott, Nigel Farage and others as it was never visibly accounted and the Petition NEVER took place. Names and addresses were gathered and dishonestly, or so it seems, laundered through Ashford to make money which seemingly vanished into various people's pockets.

So much for Petitions! EUkip has a disgracefull track record of dishonesty and mismanagement of Petitions such that I would urge you to ensure that you appoint trustees BEYOND EUkip and let members help but NOT take over. Better 1,000 signatures that can be trusted than 100,000 from EUkip who can't be trusted with people like the liar and fraud Bannerman, liars like McGough, self seeking bullying liars like Paul NuttAll, Peter Reeve and their ilk.

You will loose a huge amount of potential support if it is seen as likely to aid EUkip or Farage's corrupt crew because already there is a steady build up of individuals who will actively campaign against him in the elections.

Farage's grubby attempt to create a Reichstag Fire moment and an upcoming Night of The Long Knives is likely to end up decapitating him in his ever closing bunker of sychophants.

Good luck but I do think you have taken on an Hurculean task!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#205* - BUTCHER AGAIN PROVIDES A PLATFORM FOR DISHONESTY

#205* - BUTCHER AGAIN PROVIDES A PLATFORM FOR DISHONESTY

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

BUTCHER & PADMORE HAVING DONE THE BIDDING OF EUkip & DENIED ME THE BASIC RIGHT TO ANSWER WHEN CHALLENGED & REFUTE LIES THEY PROVIDE PLATFORMS FOR!


Hi,

This was mailed to me this morning from Butcher's list - which I gather has devolved into a propaganda site for corruption and the lies and distortions of EUkip with spam RSS and serial posting.

I gather the odious and duplicitous Croucher has been functioning, as ever, as the errand boy with his lies and poison.

The item below was no doubt stirred up by his dishonesty.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey Collier

Defence funds appertaining to such people is not of any interest to me, or for that matter, others.

Why on earth not? Who precisely are the "others" you have in mind? It has everything to do with UKIP. Mr Lance-Watkins was I believe formerly very close to Mr Farage. Mr Warry was top of the UKIP list in Wales for the 1999 European elections and successfully or otherwise wishes to remain an UKIP member. Edmond is still I believe a party member and is a former or current member of the UKIP NEC depending on your perspective. He was undoubtedly elected to that committee. I'm sure you will make me see sense as to how matters relating to UKIP which concern those 3 individuals all very closely associated with UKIP are quite correctly not of any interest to you who has such interest in how UKIP operates. Thanks.

A pity that the poster lacks the integrity to put his name to his challenge but let me see if I can assist him.

Why on earth not?
Really it is quite simple - it is none of your godammed business.

Who precisely are the "others" you have in mind?
ANY Others - it has been made abundantly clear that anyone wishing to support those who have been attacked and dishonestly abused by Nigel Farage and his undeniably corrupt claque of cheats and liars forming his leadership team and support group may phone the numbers which were published to make personal arrangements to make donations towards the costs of the victims.

It has everything to do with UKIP.
No not a thing - it has to do with those who value Justice, honesty and have an abhorrance of bullying. If YOU are unhappy about the integrity of those involved then DO NOT make a donation - give youir money to the liars, cheats, disemblers and crooks in EUkip!!

Mr Lance-Watkins was I believe formerly very close to Mr Farage.
My position regarding Farage has NEVER altered - I have ALWAYS promoted him where possible as UKIP's only consistent assett but UTTERLY unfit for leadership and incompetent to lead or manage - as trustworthy as a cart full of monkeys and totally without morality. UKIP's greatest assett and EUkip's greatest liability.

A barrow boy without ANY Officer qualities too glib, too weak and too self centred to lead but a good performing monkey based on slick sound bites in compensation for competence, plausibility or gravitas.

Mr Warry was top of the UKIP list in Wales for the 1999 European elections
As I recall having been a candidate with the Referendum Party he joined UKIP and became Chairman of Wales - after the election as I recall having sold his Pub and House in Wales he moved to Cheltenham and was elected Branch Chairman and remained there until his recent relocation.

and successfully or otherwise wishes to remain an UKIP member.
A man of unimpeachable integrity who after a military career in service wishes to see our Country Independent and Free in control of its own borders and destiny. Out of the EU and believes this can ONLY be achieved if EUkip is cleaned up with plausible accounts and accountable officers answering an elected NEC of some calibre.

Edmond is still I believe a party member and is a former or current member of the UKIP NEC depending on your perspective.
I believe if someone has EARNED a Doctorate they are entitled to the respect of it being used and EUkip is much demeaned by the constant denigration of ability, intelligence, competence and intellect just because of the shamefull calibre of trash, liars, cheats and self seekers on its NEC and leadership team.

He was undoubtedly elected to that committee.
And has without doubt been lied about, attacked and disgracefully treated in the service of the few remaining decent folk in UKIP to make way for the greed, corruption and incompetence that now has risen like scum in EUkip.

I'm sure you will make me see sense
That Sir will be a reflection on your integrity and values not upon those you seek to challenge.

as to how matters relating to UKIP which concern those 3 individuals all very closely associated with UKIP are quite correctly not of any interest to you who has such interest in how UKIP operates. Thanks.
I trust that clarifies the matter for you.

Simply put - unless you wish to contribute to the cleaninfg up of EUkip to remove the rotten head and make UKIP once more electable for decent men and women of integrity removing the liars, cheats and disgracefull trash Farage has gathered around him the matter is of absolutely no concern of yours.

Further - a measure of the dishonesty of such as Croucher may well prove visible to you when you note that I made it clear from the start that I had no intention of ANY involvement with ANY money and have pointed out that whatever stories the liars and cheats surrounding Farage may choose to invent about me - I put my name to every item I write, I am available by phone or eMail, I have offered not only to stand by EVERY FACT I have led and to do so in public whereas the filth that has risen in EUkip and the likes of Butcher & Padmore in providing them with unchallenged platforms all too often act in concert and in anonimity.

To understand how gross would be a Britain with EUkip MPs merely look at how their leadership and its supporters act - look at the corruption, dishonesty, unaccountability - the £100s of £1,000s that have seemingly been trousered, the fact that their internal elections aren't even trusted by their members.

Can you name a single member of the leadership team you would give a serious, responsible executive job to? Would you trust them with YOUR business and YOUR money?

Have you noted just how few of the leadership of EUkip and its NEC have EVER had a serious major job? Name the CEO! Identify the Director of a PLC! Not ONE would seem to have an achevement to their name - NOT ONE!

With no one of consequence nor recognisable ability is it any wonder that EUkip is finished?

The tragedy is that there is a desparate need for a Party that opposes EU membership as seemingly a majority of the peoples of Britain would vote for such a cause yet EUkip is so corrupt in the public's eye that it garners 2-8% of the vote WHEN LUCKY.

HELP US to clean up EUkip and hand it back to the members as a party fit for UKIP supporters to vote for - with either Farage out on his ear or prepared to stop acting like a spoilt child.

Farage may well be claimed to be the force behind the party for 15 years but sadly his self indulgent, insecurity, drunken womanising, greed and self interest have been the force that has destroyed the party from behind as he weakly made not one sound competent decision and gathered the weak and sychophantic around him - just look at his team - risible and in the main revolting! Liars, cheats, petty crooks, incompetent and largely utterly unemployable.

I trust this helps Independent UKIP understand his position.

I am happy to attend any public meeting to be cross examined on any and every point I have made.

Do remember - I am not asking you to vote for me, nor to fund me, I seek no office nor prefferment - Do not forget that virtually every item I have written for over 10 years has been scrutinised by the lawyers of the corrupt and to date I have never been found to be dishonest nor ever to have deliberately lied. Unlike those who hide their lies in anonimity or half truths and repetitions of dishonesty.

Should you need clarification of a single fact - by all means contact me and judge for yourself as numerous do each week. Deal direct don't settle for the dishonesty of Butcher & Padmore made in weakness and intimidation or the obvious lies of Croucher or the dishonest misrepresentations of poor old gullible Bob Feel Martiniz - don't take their bait, check the FACTS.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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