#851* - We KNEW Anthony BUTCHER LIED - HERE IS MORE PROOF

#851* - We KNEW Anthony BUTCHER LIED - HERE IS MORE PROOF

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

ADDITION AT: 17:00hrs. ON: 08-Feb-2010:

We KNEW Anthony BUTCHER LIED - HERE IS MORE PROOF!

Dear Greg,

I read with interest Anthony Butcher’s comments on why you were banned from the BDF. He said you were banned for ‘posting unsubstantiated, probably libellous material’.

He is being extremely economical with the truth. He banned you for publishing details about Peter Reeve being under investigation by the Cambs police.

I contacted Mr Butcher and told him your ban was unfair as Reeve was under investigation by Cambs police for assault.

I even gave him the case number (CFO669431208).

He refused to lift the ban and said confirmation of your statement didn’t matter as you were also banned for other unspecified reasons.

Mr Butcher is sadly little different from UKIP’s corrupt leadership. If proven wrong he just moves the goalposts and hopes no one notices.

Best wishes John West

I have phoned John and have his permission to publish his letter showing Butcher to be untrustworthy and a liar.

The other unspecified reasons were clearly believed to be because Nuttall had ordered him to, in order to suppress the truth - freedom of speech is the greatest fear of the corrupt!

& people wonder why I hold the foolish and dishonest little man in contempt - weak self serving little men who lie have always revolted me! It is those same qualities I can not stand about Croucher, Denny, Nuttall and their ilk - wheedling, corrupt and underhand clearly not to be trusted in any capacity, as they so frequently show.

You may have different standards.

& Indeed it seems we do - here is the structure of lies he has published to try to save face:

ADDITION AT: 17:00hrs. ON: 08-Feb-2010:

To read Anthony Butchers subsequent lies at his original site trying to justify his dishonesty CLICK HERE

However I have published them verbatim below as quotes to which I have responded item by item.

As ever I am happy to address the lies and Butcher himself giving him the opportunity to lie to my face on any public platform that I can reasonably attend. Anyone who wants ANY additional information is welcome to contact me, as an identifiable individual, and I will provide them with any additional facts they may find of help.

IRREFUTABLY Anthony Butcher is a liar who has serially and consistently lied about me and provided others with a platform to do so also.

Now line by line here are the facts regarding Butcher's lies:

BUTCHER SAID: I must be doing something right. Once again though, they are struggling to separate reality from some made up junk.

G.L-W: Indeed it is not easy as you and others on your forum do publish a great deal of dishonest made up junk - hardly surprisong that so many of your contributors are too ashamed to put their name to their fantasies and lies.

BUTCHER SAID: He seems to have a very selective memory.

G.L-W: I have specifically selected facts and details that are 100% accurate, truthful and verifiable - it is a pitty liars like Butcher and the cronies he provides a platform for do not behave to the same standards.

BUTCHER SAID: He was banned for posting an accusation of criminal behaviour and allowed 48 hours to substantiate it, which he refused to do.

G.L-W: This is untrue - I was, as I stated, given 24 hours and you will note Butcher concedes this to be true further on in his self serving fantasy.
I was NOT given 48 hours, point one and even were this the case why are lies from posters to his forum never challenged? Yet when I provide substantive facts they are lied about by Butcher and challenged?

BUTCHER SAID: That was on top of the other five or six warnings for poor behaviour he had received prior to that,

G.L-W: In each instance I had shown that my posting was true and accurate - without exception! Yet Butcher supported a series of personalised inaccurate and dishonest attacks on me over a number of years.

BUTCHER SAID: and the fact that he was on a probationary period anyway, having been allowed back on, against my better judgement, from a previous 'permanent ban'.

G.L-W: Another lie as I stated that if I came back I would not tolerate being lied about and challenged on every fact that I provided and Butcher lied and said that was OK - a fact which he confirmed to a third party.

May I also remind Butcher that the previous ban was dishonest duplicitous and morally unsustainable as it had been a so called life ban imposed for a conversation on the forum with Rob McWhirter and the ban was on no sound grounding - but lied about subsequently by Matt Davies and Butcher in collusion - though Butcher did say he agreed it was unreasonable but he had to support his moderator - Matt shortly after was dumped or dumped himself as a moderator as clearly he lacked the ability to act rationally in a disassociated manner.

It is worth reminding Butcher that he several times suggested that my ISP was NOT banned and therefore I could easily be dishonest like many others on his forum and rejoin  under a false identity!! Sorry that level of dishonesty I will leave to those of little morality who lack the integrity to put their name to their postings on the internet.

BUTCHER SAID: In the end we had to ban him permanently, again, because he wouldn't accept the forum rules about not posting libellous material without proof (evidence in our opinion, not his!).

G.L-W: A gross dishonesty on Butcher's part I have NEVER EVER libeled anyone - though I concede he has claimed here to have his own private definition of libel!

BUTCHER SAID: Apparently though, if you are GLW, then it is fine to post anything you like and who cares if I get sued because of it. Pure selfishness.

 G.L-W: Another dishonest implication. I have NEVER posted anything libelous or dishonest for which he could ever have been sued - to imply I have or I might is as ever dishonest of Butcher.

BUTCHER SAID: There is an interesting bit from John West:

G.L-W: I was intrigued to note Butcher describes facts as 'an interesting bit'.

JOHN WEST SAID: I contacted Mr Butcher and told him your ban was unfair as Reeve was under investigation by Cambs police for assault.

I even gave him the case number (CFO669431208).

He refused to lift the ban and said confirmation of your statement didn’t matter as you were also banned for other unspecified reasons.

G.L-W: Butcher might selectively like to consider the truth as shown here and might even select to admit he received this at the first possible opportunity when John West returned from work. Thus substantiating my earlier statement of fact.

BUTCHER SAID: He still doesn't understand - the rules stated very clearly that any accusations had to be backed up with evidence within 24 hours.

G.L-W: Indeed and as I had advised them that the third party who held the facts was at work until about 17:30hrs. the ban was implimented irrevocably and dishonestly after 24hrs. John West supplied the facts and crime number proving I had told the truth, as I had already shown I would.

BUTCHER SAID: GLW didn't provide that and refused to withdraw the allegation.

G.L-W: So Butcher extends his lie and implies that having shown my statement was true I should lie and withdraw the statement that Peter Reeve was under investigation by Cambridgeshire Police for assault at a EUkip meeting.I

BUTCHER SAID: We even gave him another 24 hours, and still nothing.

G.L-W: This is clearly a lie as I was banned at exactly 24hrs. John West supplied the facts as I had assured the forum he would within a few hours of the ban being implemented.

BUTCHER SAID: Providing a case number months afterwards is meaningless.

G.L-W: A lie by Butcher AGAIN! John West provided the information shortly after returning from work.

BUTCHER SAID: Permanent bans are there as a preventative measure for posters who can't be trusted not to keep breaking the rules in the future.

G.L-W: ANOTHER dishonest inferrence from Butcher!

BUTCHER SAID: In GLW's case, we simply couldn't trust him not to keep on posting accusations of criminal behaviour and other libellous material.

G.L-W: A dishonest misrepresentation by Butcher.

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BUTCHER SAID: After we banned him the first time he moaned endlessly about how terrible we are,

G.L-W: A fact that has been proven beyond any doubt - even to the extent of making a construct of evidence on the forum by Butcher removing postings that damage his case and expose it for the sham it is.

BUTCHER SAID: but rejoined instantly when his ban was lifted.

G.L-W: Butcher might recall selectively, try the truth for a change and remind himself that HE asked me to return and HE assured me that Matt Davies was no longer a moderator and that HE would act fairly and that HE would moderate those who used the forum to lie about me. HE also assured me that HE would ensure a level playing field.
HE also confirmed this to Richard Suchorzewski who I understand HE was in regular contact with.

BUTCHER SAID: If he had had the sense to keep his head down and stick to the rules he would still be here.

G.L-W: I presume he means and lie like others on the forum to please people! For all his dishonesty and duplicity and misleading inferences I do note Butcher has not been able to find a single example where I have lied, distorted, misled or libeled anyone - so to support his dishonesty he invents his own pack of lies and distortions to mislead but with no shortage of dishonest and corrupt accomplaces who also seek to suppress the truth.

BUTCHER SAID: Now he spends his time repeating the same unimaginative insults about myself and the other moderators.

G.L-W: At least he appreciates I am not using imagination. You will of course note that year in year out he permits all sorts of imaginitive lies about me on his forum and takes virtually no notice in terms of truth or provenance - aware that I can not afford to sue him for libel or lies.

BUTCHER SAID: I just wish that he would accept his ban(s) like an adult and move on.

G.L-W: Just like an adult I will never cease to defend my reputation and show whenever I note someone telling lies or supporting others in lies about me - I do the same on behalf of others who are lied about or similarly attacked.

BUTCHER SAID: Bitterness does nothing good for the soul.

G.L-W: It is little wonder that Butcher is aware of this as his dishonesty and ineptitude in political terms are more than apparent - though his masters may well be pleased with him.

Bitter as Butcher may be, at being exposed as dishonest, but he has rather earned the opprobrium of decent folk.



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