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Sunday 24 January 2010

#825* - Civil War in EUkip: Pearson faces opposition from Farage over ex-members

#825* - Civil War in EUkip: Pearson faces opposition from Farage over ex-members
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Civil War in EUkip is becoming plain for all to see: Pearson faces opposition from Farage not just for Farage & Nuttall's vile treatment of Nikki Sinclaire but over ex-members!

Hi,

Due to Techie problems this week this is largely a direct lift in layout terms from
Junius with some additions and interjections, obviously I sought Junius permission and include such links as are apposite. The main body of the text has not just been widely circulated but has already been posted on numerous web sites.


I have but one serious comment to make regarding this posting which is that one has to wonder to what degree this is mere mischief making and to what degree genuine. I question anyone's morality that they would widely distribute such a letter (which it has been as several very different people have provided copies or confirmation of the essay).

IF the authors believed in their utterances why would they be too ashamed or too timerous to put their names to it? There is absolutely no honourable reason anyone with a genuine interest in the well being of Britain would not or could not put their name to this letter if they felt it to be true. It is customary under such circumstances to gather together a body of those of the opinion put forward to attest and append their signature.

Such a document as this below bears no weight sadly.

I also believe you may find you are in the hands of some duplicitous individual who is willing to provide support and encouragement and promise much after the election yet, like Trevor Colman, renege on his undertaking when he had achieved his personal ambition of being elected! Or like Gerard Batten make much fuss but for personal political gain do nothing - little men in big jobs!

Before you read on just consider - in The South West Region 96% of members who responded to a poll called by Roger Knapman and his co-signators supported withdrawal from the IndDemGroup - yet in TOTAL contempt for the members Farage dishonestly misled his own MEPs, those with the integrity to care, and constructed a new self serving Pan EU Political group the EFD which had ALL the faults of the IndDemGroup that had been rejected AND had reabsorbed the Lega Nord who had been chucked out of the IndDemGroup previously for their vile extremism and adherance to promoting membership of the EU which put both Derek Clarke and Nigel Farage under the spotlight with their advocacy of Britain's greater subsidiarity to the EU and aid for the EU in working with committees to strengthen the EU's control over member regions!

The proud boast of many of Farage's new 'good little earner' is that they supported The New Constitution Lisbon Treaty. Could this be the reason why under the dictatorial command of Farage EUkip took absolutely no meaningful action to oppose the New Constitution untill it had passed through The House of Commons when they lamely traipsed around filming their own staff in the pretence that they had members and public support!



I do actually question whether this UNSIGNED, fatherless document may not be a ruse to dupe ex members back into EUkip - because do remember it is clear EUkip executive will stoop to any filthy level in betrayal of our Country to achieve their aims and keep their snouts in the trough. We have seen and had proven by the example given that EUkip leadership not only can not be trusted but know no bounds to their dishonesty when it comes to their own enrichment paying wives and family, rigging selection processes and corrupting elections.

How could the authors of the letter with any integrity be advocates to those who have already left in disgust to rejoin to prop up the corruption?

We all know there are MEPs mumbling about they will do something AFTER the election - Oh so they are perfectly happy to totally misrepresent the truth to gain votes, with the plan to quit after they have misled everyone and once the votes are cast! Seems there is only one elected member in the party with integrity and clearly Farage, Nuttall, Gill and their cronies so feared the truth they opted to make a mountain out of a mole hill in display of their utter chav like lack of leadership or honour and tried, but failed, to orchestrate not just a character assassination on Nikki Sinclaire but to behave like gutter snipes both on and off of the media in their panic and incompetence - for it was they who acted in this way and any part the muppets on the NEC took was ONLY by behest..

Anyone with an opinion is accused of being my puppet - yet they are so scared that every time I have challenged Farage and his sad praise singers to provide provenance or debate they have huffed and puffed about my irrelevance - OK so I am NOT the puppet master, I am irrelevant (tell that to Tom Wise!!!) and the many decent honest people who have left EUkip have done so honourably based upon fact - yeah I thought so.

EUkip are happy to spin and lie but even they know I don't work for Lord Ashcroft, MI5, The EU, The CIA, The Tories, MI6, The New World Order or any of the other fanciful drivel their executive have come out with - they will of course continue to lie about me, that is the nature of the dishonest and the corrupt taking any gutter route to try to silence the truth!

Civil War in UKIP: Pearson faces opposition from Farage over ex-members



These VERY interesting documents recently dropped on our desk.

UKIP is now in a state of Civil War. A growing number of members are becoming increasingly angry with the the current state of the Party. The Nikkigate affair was the final straw.

Even former Farage sycophants are now starting to question the wisdom of allowing Farage's stranglehold on the Party to continue unchecked.

These documents are the result.

They were sent to ex-UKIPPERS. The documents call for all ex-UKIPPERS to rejoin the Party.

They then go on to present a damning indictment of the failure of UKIP under Farage and his sycophants.

It is clear that UKIP can only move forward if Farage and his sycophants are removed. They are the problem. They are certainly not part of the solution.

Unless Farage, Bannerman, the odious Nuttall, Denny, Gill, Zuckerman, Duffy, Bloom, Nattrass, Andreasen, Arnott, Oxley, Towler, Ransome, Clark, Smith, Rowe, Croucher and the rest of this rotton bunch are removed NONE of the proposed reforms will succeed. They are all tainted by corruption and will fight tooth and nail to stop Pearson reforming UKIP.

Don't forget that members of UKIP's press office even leaked stories about Pearson to the press in an effort to damage him after Farage was forced to stand down as leader following 'advice' by Wheeler!

Here is the email version:

UKIP Obstacles

Lord Pearson delegated contact with senior former members of UKIP with the intention of holding small lunch parties at the House of Lord. He has encountered resistance! That is no surprise. Whilst he sorts out this problem a small group is proposing to attack the situation from the flank.

Attached is a template which we hope you will wish to use and return your views to us. We will then present a consolidated concensus to Lord P. (with dissenting views if necessary) so he begins to get a fully rounded picture of the party and hopefully its way forward. No names of respondents will, at this stage, be included in the report.

We want to present this to him before Parliament reconvenes in early January. Would you please firstly indicate that you wish to take part and then return your considered answers in good time.

We consider it is vital, however difficult, that such valuable resigned/removed members should return to the fold,

Our cause is far more important than any personality clashes.

WHAT ARE THE OBSTACLES TO EX-UKIP OFFICE HOLDERS AND MEMBERS REJOINING?

The job of the Leader is laborious including control of administration, financial oversight, choice of personnel, media, etc. There are NEC meetings, election meetings, media appearances, travel to the regions. No wonder Nigel Farage said it was too much for him.

Moreover, the party faces an imminent general election whereby almost all other activity is suspended while a general election campaign is planned, financed and fought.

However, as the Party has wasted the last four years and is even more dysfunctional than it was in 2005 with substantially less members, things cannot continue as before.

This is an effort to find out precisely which matters are doing the greatest damage to UKIP and which areas need to be addressed urgently.

Specifically, what would encourage former key members to rejoin and stop others leaving?

The new Leader

I think Lord Pearson is well respected by the great bulk of UKIP members and is regarded as principled and well connected. His political history shows he puts principle above personal advancement.

There are two question marks:

1. His involvement in perfectly legal but ethically uncertain claims for expenses, etc. He is, of course, far from the only MP, peer or MEP to be involved in this.

2. His imperfect and narrow knowledge of the mechanisms and personalities in UKIP.

So the question here is, do you have any objection to the new Leader as a person?

Policies

Few office holders of members left UKIP because of the broad thrust of its policies although there may be disputes over details.

In recent times, UKIP has added a questioning attitude to climate change policies on a global and national scale. It has also added a more severe criticism of Islam (especially via Lord Pearson). This latter is, of course, the standard position of Christian Europe throughout the ages and in recent times such varied figures as Gladstone and Churchill have voiced similar concerns.

UKIP certainly needs to put out policy papers on climate change scepticism and Islam but they seem to be natural follow-ons to its patriotic, self-government core stance.

The question is, do you have any major disagreement with UKIP political policies?

Governance

I think it is reasonable to say that most ex-members and ex-officials left the Party because of governance issues. These are varied but I will try to group them as follows:

3. The failure to adhere to the Constitution.

i. Reporting to the NEC, there should be a political committee which keeps minutes and whose members are publicly announced. This has never been done. The job of the political committee is to make interim political decisions between NEC meetings and any minuted decisions should be reported to and approved by the NEC.

ii. Misbehaviour by the NEC in suspending/removing members of the NEC.

iii. Improper accounting, especially connected with the Ashford call centre.

iv. Improper elections. For example, the Returning Officer’s report on the elections for the EU candidate list was overruled.

v. The offer to ‘stand down’ or ‘disband’ the Party at the next general election was made without authority and was contrary to Clause 3.1 of the Constitution.

vi. Suspension of members on flimsy allegations of BNP links.

vii. The conduct of the Discipline Committee.

viii. NEC members have not carried out their constitutional role in having full debates with all relevant information. Some members appear to be ignorant of their responsibilities and are happy to be sidelined.

4. Misbehaviour in governance by the former Party Leader and others or usurpation of power by them.

i. The conduct of the Electoral Commission investigation, failure by the Party to adhere to the rules which it had done under previous Treasurers and the outcome being massive losses and legal costs. Failure by the NEC to control the process. Alan Bown is said to have openly said he will not honour his guarantee. Why?

ii. The failure to establish a UKIP media office. There is only a press office of the Brussels party which is appointed by and reports to Nigel Farage.

There is no system for distributing media enquiries. In any case, the media office should be directed by the Party Leader not from Brussels. Wherever possible, media appearances should be prepared with briefings. In the ‘disbanding’ storm, Malcolm Pearson and Nigel Farage gave contradictory statements to the media and there was no agreed written note of what the ‘offer’ was.

iii. There are no transparent systems of appointing Party staff, nor is there a published list of staff, their responsibilities or their reporting line of control.

Which of the above matters, or any other matters, do you think MUST be corrected before you would rejoin?

The MEPs

The relationship of the MEPs to the Party and their behaviour has always been dysfunctional.

5. There are no clear cut rules about publishing expenses.

6. There is no code as to what part of their salary MEPs would give to the national party on a continuing basis.

7. There is no code about MEPs’ attendance.

8. The procedure for appointing Brussels’ staff is opaque, probably no references are ever checked.

9. There is no financial reporting of the Brussels’ operation to the NEC. (It will be recalled this infusion of cash and resources is put forward as the main reason for having MEPs.)

10. There is opaqueness about who is employed by the MEPs or the group – Croucher? Fuller? Who knows? Who does Andreassen employ?

11. Apart from the doubts regarding her appearance on the MEP candidate list, the promise by Labour and Tories to enact laws not allowing MPs and peers to be non-domiciled will throw the position of Marta Andreassen into doubt.

12. There have been constant media stories about personal misbehaviour by MEPs in Brussels with no action taken.

Which of these matters MUST be corrected before you would rejoin or are there other matters?

Are some problems beyond institutional repair and are simply a reflection of insecure people at the top of UKIP – the lack of officer qualities?

13. The entrapment of Haslam, the former Treasurer.
14. Attempts to smear people with BNP connections.
15. Bullying behaviour.
16. Secrecy.
17. The constant desire to evade the constitutional norms.

It is worth noting Samuel Pepys, founder of the Navy, commented “A person who cannot say no is not fit for public service”.

Do you think UKIP suffers from the wrong kind of personalities or do you think institutional order will solve its problems?

In order to tabulate responses, it would be helpful if you would categorize your responses under the headings above.

There may be matters missed out in each section or not mentioned at all which you think are critical.

Please feel free to note these under the relevant section or at the end of your reply.


Due to Techie problems this week this is largely a direct lift in layout terms from Junius with some additions and interjections, obviously I sought Junius permission and include such links as are apposite.


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What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

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