#453* - Piers MERCHANT IS NOT JUNIUS
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Piers MERCHANT IS NOT JUNIUS!
Saturday, 2 May 2009
Piers Merchant is not JuniusThe accusation by Croucher that Piers is Junius is laughable. The only people who believe it are the Farage cabal who are eager to find someone to blame as the police have done more often recently than is good for them. They have ended up destroying their own reputation and no one now believes a word they say. UKIP should take notice.
Historians will tell you you have to ask the following questions of any source. Was he in a position to know and was he there at the time to know. The answer to both in Piers case is No! The claim that UKIP's email system was firing out copies to all and sundry proves only how incompetent UKIP management are, not that Piers is Junius. Croucher will have to go through Junius's blogs and item by item trace the information back to Arnot's emails and show the blog items occured shortly after the email was sent to sustain his case. One or two items will not suffice as there are many other possible sources for Junius's material.
I do not know who Junius is and I do not want to know. I think he does an excellent job in publishing information about UKIP that the members have a perfect right to know. The same goes for GLW although from time to time he does get a bit carried away by his own rhetoric.
Piers could not possibly know the vast majority of the information Junius and GLW publish. My personal view is that the source must be someone close to Nigel Farage. That passes the place and time test. Also the test of who is damaged and who is not by the leak indicates a source close to NF. Possibly a case of cherchez la femme?
Finally Ruth Shoebridge is organising a UK Renewal umbrella meeting for those from all parties interested in the anti EU cause. It is to be held at:
Chichester, Assembly Rooms, North Street, Chichester PO19 1LQ
Saturday 9th May at 2.30 pm,
There is a large car park to the north of North Street, which surrounds the Chichester Festival Theatre. (several acres of parking space)
Premier event of the season for all interested in UK action to get us out of the EU and get our country back!
The purpose of the meeting, is to meet people from every political party, who are concerned about Britain's relationship with the EU and the general topic will be:.
' What is the best way forward to get us out of the EU?'
Petrina Holdsworth (UKFirstParty) and others will speak but most of the time will be given over to debate and Question & Answer.
All are welcome. Tea and biscuits will be available.
Ruth organises these things very well so do attend if you can.
Posted by Eric Edmond at 01:18
9 comments:
Bob Feal-martinez said...
So if it's not true, we can expect Piers to sue.
I suppose you are not Somerset either.
02 May 2009 02:48
Bob Feal-martinez said...
Petrina Holdsworth and others will speak but most of the time will be given over to debate and Question & Answer.
So a UKFP event then. Wonder what the topic will be, oh I know don't vote UKIP.
Eric when I you going to stop pretending are anything but supportive of UKIP. Have you resigned from UKIP yet and joined UKFP. Clearly that is where your loyalties lie.
02 May 2009 03:12
Eric Edmond said...
Bob
I know you have been kicked off the Forum (Details CLICK HERE) but I do hope you are not going to use my blog as a substitute.
I am not a member of UKFP. I am a member of UKIP. I will always put my country before party and to that end I will support any anti EU initiative.
02 May 2009 05:59
Greg L-W. said...
Hi,
It is interesting to note that Bob FM has been proved to be an habitual liar, unwilling to apologise when publicly exposed for abuse, libel and lies at:
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/complaints/60437-bobfm.html#post658659 and elsewhere.
Let us deal with fact item by item and correct the misleading and dishonest comment he has made on this Blog.
The BFM said:
So if it's not true, we can expect Piers to sue.
I would doubt it - Piers is as far as I know not stupid enough to care what the vile little squirt Mark Croucher has to say about anything as Croucher has been known as utterly untrustworthy and a liar for many years to those who have knowledge of EUkip.
Further it would be foolish of Mr. Merchant to sue someone who yet again has failed - this time by being foolish enough to borrow money to launch two pubs during a predictable collapse of the economy, and when even competent experienced publicans are finding their skills are inadequate for survival!
The BFM said:
I suppose you are not Somerset either.
I appreciate The BFM is more than somewhat challenged but even many Spaniards know Somerset is a County!
What was the point of your foolish comment?
The BFM said:
Petrina Holdsworth and others will speak but most of the time will be given over to debate and Question & Answer.
I guess you CAN read - what it says on the tin is likely to be what Ruth Shoebridge delivers.
A good initiative on Mrs. Shoebridge's part - cross party and opposed to EU membership.
The BFM said:
So a UKFP event then.
But I guess even though The BFM can read - comprehension is a bit challenging!
The BFM said:
Wonder what the topic will be, oh I know don't vote UKIP.
I believe if you read Dr. Edmond's information it is clear without your attempt to deliberately damage EUkip's reputation, they can do that without your Mr. Angry impressions surrounded by veggie crates.
The BFM said:
Eric when I you going to stop pretending are anything but supportive of UKIP.
Could you get your carer to re-write this in English - few understand Manglish.
The BFM said:
Have you resigned from UKIP yet and joined UKFP.
I understand Dr. Edmond despite the abuse and dishonesty of EUkip is still trying to make it a worthwhile Political entity rather than the self seeking ferrets squabbling in a sack without competent or even honest or ethical leadership.
The BFM said:
Clearly that is where your loyalties lie.
I believe your apology is yet again required for this comment or produce just one shred of evidence.
You have proved beyond doubt that your opinion is untrustworthy and you are an habitual liar.
Do please try to act with some integrity and not perpetuate the perception to the honest as a dishonest coward.
Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 - 62 65 62
happy to substantiate EVERY statement and fact on
http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com/
02 May 2009 11:04
Greg L-W. said...
Hi,
Good luck and well done to Ruth Shoebridge for organising a UK Renewal umbrella meeting for those from all parties interested in the anti EU cause.
It is to be held at:
Chichester, Assembly Rooms, North Street, Chichester PO19 1LQ
Saturday 9th May at 2.30 pm,
I hope all goes well and you can do what EUkip has so spectacularly failed to do with their witch hunts, bullying, drunken womanising and dressing up as chickens.
EUkips main achievement seems to have been to betray the EUroRealist Movement, fracture the party, trash the membership and act as recruiting sargeants for the revolting BNP.
Good luck to Ruth and those helping her to Patriotically leave The EU - dedicated individuals like Petrina Holdsworth, Dr. Edmond and many others.
Regards,
Greg L-W.
02 May 2009 11:16
Junius said...
Eric, I can confirm that I am NOT Piers Merchant or even Roger Knapman as some are suggesting.
I will continue to expose corruption in UKIP until Farage and his sycophants are history.
Once they are gone we can reclaim UKIP for all honest members.
02 May 2009 11:44
Greg L-W. said...
Hi,
It is public knowledge that the details of Junius are known to me and that I am in verbal and written communication with Junius.
I am prepared to attest that there is absolutely no reason to believe that EUkip has the vaguest clue as to the identity of Junius.
I am willing to attest, if Piers Merchant were foolish to waste his time in litigation on the matter, that Piers Merchant IS NOT a part of Junius.
I can also attest that Piers Merchant has NEVER communicated with Junius and as with everyone else it seems he has no idea who Junius is or howmany people are involved.
Mark Croucher and his followers Bob FM and the idiot Douglas Denny are completely wrong and are potentially liable to prosecution by Piers Merchant, were he so foolish - I believe any Court would treat the matter as nuisance by fools and would advise Piers Merchant to 'Consider The Source'.
Dishonest little men of bile, vitriol and hatred. Proven repeatedly to be dishonest, untrustworthy and self interested even amongst their colleagues.
Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 - 62 65 62
02 May 2009 12:28
Bob Feal-martinez said...
So that's alright then we can believe a man who for months and months denied he had criminal convictions.
Eric do not fear, I have no intention of posting endlessly on here. I will monitor what GLW / Junius posts and respond accordingly.
I can tell you that there are some seriously 'pee'd' off SW UKIP who feel very betrayed by Piers and they have a right to be. I understand there is more to come on that front.
He won't sue by the way because using police parlance, 'he is bang to rights'.
02 May 2009 12:44
Greg L-W. said...
Hi,
It is at times hardly surprising that the Police are called 'Pigs' by some - I note Bob FM is back with more Porkies! One only needs a few rotten apples to contaminate a whole barrel.
The BFM said
So that's alright then we can believe a man who for months and months denied he had criminal convictions.
Perhaps the many months can be identified? No I thought not. Presumably this would be the grievous crime of accidentally shipping a girlfriend's pistol & 50 rounds of ammo. back into Britain after 10 years abroad, with our household effects a long spent offence for which I was merely fined and took the 'rap' as the owner of the firearm was an American citizen.
As a long since Police Officer one would have thought this low life Bob FM would have understood the concept of 'Spent Crime'.
The fact that it is probable that details of this technical offence and other details (NON Criminal, from aiding the Police) were criminally obtained via EUkip or its agents abusing the sloppy security of the UK and unlawfully obtaining an 'Enhanced CRB' or access to the PNC without authority would matter little to the ethics of the likes of Bob FM or EUkip.
The BFM said
I can tell you that there are some seriously 'pee'd' off SW UKIP who feel very betrayed by Piers and they have a right to be.
I doubt this is a surprise to anyone based upon the lies and dishonesty of Mark Croucher, Bob FM, Douglas Denny and the vile group that now seem to have hijacked EUkip for their personal gain - as they bandy round distorted half truths in a feeding frenzy to try to get near the troughs on the EU's Gravy Train.
The BFM said
I understand there is more to come on that front.
Based on past record of these individuals lies and distortions.
Not one shred of plausible evidence has been shown to substantiate what seems to be a pack of lies and suppositions.
The BFM said
He won't sue by the way because using police parlance, 'he is bang to rights'.
No that is only the very ignorant Police the more competent ones use the criminal parlance of 'Banged to rights'.
Sadly there has been absolutely no evidence of ANY criminal action to back up all the lies being promulgated in desparation by EUkip's army of vile myth spreeders.
Bob FM would seem to have failed to note he was chucked off of what was UKIPForum not only for telling lies and abusing people but when it was proven he was a liar and could not back his lies with evidence and was not man enough to apologise when 'Banged to rights' he was banned for 6 months.
Only a coward would keep behaving thus in the hope/belief that no one can be bothered or afford to sue them.
They do say scum rises and sadly EUkip is there to prove the point - so sad when so many of us did so much to build the party, sad to see it being destroyed - choked by the scum.
Regards,
Greg L-W.
02 May 2009 14:46
Bob Feal-martinez said...
I am sure that anyone who visits Eric's blog will be thrilled to learn that Eric allows GLW to defend him.
I also note that GLW actually confirms what I posted on BDF that the press are not interested in his rants anymore, although of course he tries to spin it so as to indicate that it's because the press believe that UKIP is so corrupt and it is so widespread that it's not news worthy.
Dream on Greg, it's because they have been threatened so often with legal action and had to apologise because of your 'facts' that they see you for what you are a sad, and pathetic old man, seeking an importance that has always eluded you.
I understand from my contacts down your way that people cross the road rather than engage with you.
03 May 2009 00:05
Eric Edmond said...
Bob,
I believe in freedom of speech. That is why I allow you to post comments on my blog. It does not mean I agree with what you say. The principles I apply for you apply equally to Greg and Junius and the same caveats apply.
I also believe in a broad church to allow Euro realists of all persuasions to express their views at Ruth's meeting at Chichester next Saturday. I do not believe in proscribing political parties, a characteristic of fascist parties since the 1920s.
My views have not changed since I was elected onto the SW MEP list and you can find my views on my website: www.ericedmond.com
I stand for British values of justice and fairplay by the rules in all things. Thus I can obviously never be one of Farage's fascisti.
Piers Merchant did an immense amount to secure the great national and SW result for UKIP in 2004. Piers skills may be better appreciated in the South West after the 2009 results on 7th June
Eric
03 May 2009 05:55
Greg L-W. said...
Hi,
little as I believe other people's comment sections an appropriate place to openly attack individuals far be it from me to instigate such an attack - I shall leave that to the dishonest and the cowards.
Let us not forget that part of the aim of the original blog was to promote the genuine efforts of Ruth Shoebridge to address gaining the liberty of Britain from the odious and undemocratic EU - And the very best of luck to her and those who are supporting and aiding her.
The other purpose of the blog was to expose the idiocy of EUkip in their involvement with the likes of Mark Croucher and their blatant and flagrant breeches of the Data Protection Act.
Using his usual aggresive and dishonest techniques TheBFM sets out to drag discusion into what would seem to be the gutter in which he lives.
Consider his last attempt to distract from the aim of the original blog where The Bob FM said:
I am sure that anyone who visits Eric's blog will be thrilled to learn that Eric allows GLW. to defend him.
There is no need for me to defend him he is quite man enough and intelligently capable of defending himself. I merely comment to expose the lies, distortion and dishonesty of the aggresive and unpleasant BFM.
I believe there is no place in British politics for corruption and if it requires his lies and dishonesty to regain our liberty then perhaps we would be better off without such vile concepts.
By all means debate the views and opinions of one's opponents but to sink to the levels of dishonesty of TheBFM and some others in pursuit of getting their snouts in the EU troughs with EUkip is a measure of the abject failure of EUkip.
The BFM said:
I also note that ">GLW actually confirms what I posted on BDF
From which he was thrown off for abusive behaviour, debasing threads to try to have them locked and a series of lies over a prolonged period for which he refused to apologise when unable to provide facts to back his libels and lies.
The BFM said:
that the press are not interested in his rants anymore, although of course he tries to spin it so as to indicate that it's because the press believe that UKIP is so corrupt and it is so widespread that it's not news worthy.
Rather than gratuitous lies and dishonesty perhaps The BFM will be man enough to provide evidence of this statement with provenance or apologise.
The reason the mainstream media publish so little of gravitas or consequence about EUkip is that they are politically insignificant and without gravitas or consequence.
Chicken acts mainly feature as a NIB.
The BFM said:
Dream on ">Greg, it's because they have been threatened so often with legal action and had to apologise because of your 'facts'
Further lies from theBFM since he can not for one second substantiate his allegation.
Be a man Bob - provide provenance that a single newspaper has EVER been lied to by me, identify a single instance where a newspaper has EVER faced legal action based on a single word I have said.
Put up the evidence and your provenance of your lie or apologise.
The BFM said:
that they see you for what you are a sad, and pathetic old man, seeking an importance that has always eluded you.
I am indeed sad that due to operative damage I am less able to travel and take other actions in defence of my country - however never, unlike The BFM, have I sought or desired public office and importance.
The BFM said:
I understand from my contacts down your way that people cross the road rather than engage with you.
I am quite sure there are - I have always had a reputation for not suffering fools gladly and I can name several Councillors, Police Officers and other self seekers who it is publicly known I hold in utter contempt.
I would hope that all who consider the style, morality, ethics, values and behaviour of such as TheBFM would make a point of crossing the road - in fact if The BFM could identify them perhaps he would be so good as to suggest they don't come to Chepstow, we have enough drunks, yobs and low lifes already thanks. We have no need of people like the dishonest and aggresive BFM.
As for the primary contention of Ertic's Blog, though I have lampooned Piers Merchant over many years that he is Junius I know to be untrue.
That he was receiving mail from EUkip that was in breech of The DPA is no surprise EUkip is utterly incompetent and unfit to receive a single vote.
That EUkip has been mailing its entire 'e'Mail membership list unencrypted in flagrant disregard of the official warning they have received and that Croucher is such a fool he provides the evidence for EUkip's prosecution on a public blog speaks volumes of the callibre of those in EUkip's leadership and staff.
The sooner EUkip is closed down and such prosecutions as are approppriate are conducted the sooner the party can be handed back to its grass roots honest members to rebuild UKIP in a form fit for a vote.
We all look forward to The BFM's apology and all but The BFM wish Ruth Shoebridge well with her patriotic efforts.
Regards,
">Greg L-W.
ANYONE wishing to confirm facts is welcome to contact me.
03 May 2009 08:17
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