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Sunday 31 May 2009

#510* - LABOUR USE TAX PAYERS' MONEY TO SELL EU

#510* - LABOUR USE TAX PAYERS' MONEY TO SELL EU

Hi,

here is a fantastic story to beat the Massively Expensive Parasites of the EU around the head with - but to cover for having perloned the £2,000,000 Nigel Farage boasts of and the same again he keeps quiet about Farage pretends he spent it all on EUkip.

It is as morally reprehensible to squander tax payers' money on propaganda and campaigning, be it for or against.

Farage's glee at claiming to be spending EU tax payers' money on his political views (even if I shared them!) is as much corruption as Maggot Walstrom, the Goebels of the EU, as Commissioner for propaganda.

What a moral dyslexic like Farage fails to understand is his relatively small thefts of money grant The EU a license to rip off the tax payers of The EU on an eye watering scale. If Farage has used £5.00 of EU tax payers' money to propagandise opposition to The EU he has granted license to The EU for the £Billions it has invested in propaganda.

Ever the performing monkey - a little man of absolutely no Officer Qualities - just like the performing monkey he has been tempted to stick his hand in the cookie jar, having grabbed the cookies on offer he is now trapped with his hand stuck in the jar - there is absolutely no such thing as an acceptable level of corruption. Farage is banged to rights and owned by The EU all because of his dishonesty!

Farage is politically too self obsessed (and arrogantly self impressed) and has paid for a staff of sychophantic Praise Singers, with OUR money, not men and women of ethics, integrity or morality and thus surrounded by the corrupt, the venal and the inane he has absolutely no concept of howmuch he is helping the EU and destroying EUroScepticism for it is certain EUkip lacks the intelligence to be EUroRealists as they are so clearly manipulated as usefull idiots.

Just as the MPs at Westminster in their bubble are unaware of the anger of the people - Farage in his bubble just doesn't get it and as more truth becomes common knowledge the more vile and duplicitous are those he has to pay as his praise singers - now he is embroilled in promoting The BNP and driving people into their arms by his association with the likes of Mark Croucher, Mick McGough, Searchlight, Douglas Denny and their ilk. It is only due to a leak that he cancelled addressing a BNP group at the extreme Right Wing Racist Swinton Circle who provided a platform for Tom Wise despite knowing he was on the verge of being charged for Fraud and Money Laundering.

The Emeror is naked but he spends the tax payers' money on praise singers who would loose their jobs and their freeloading on the gravy train. Farage is an excellent spokesman but lacks any visible wisdom, intellect or leadership qualities.

The aim was to get Britain out of the EU not just to grow EUkip for self enrichment and self agrandisement.

As Rod Liddle more aptly put it in The Sunday Times when he announced The Emperor had no clothes on:
'The UK Independence party, for example, led by a chap called Nigel Farage, who resembles a frog that has just had a Chinese firecracker inserted in its rectum and, worse, is clearly enjoying the experience. Nigel cheerfully admits to having swallowed up 2m quid of taxpayers’ money in allowances in his 10 years as an MEP and seems to suggest that, as a consequence of this, he is one of the reasons the European Union should be abolished.'


Taxpayers' money used to finance Labour Europropaganda campaign:

SP demands explanation

May 15th, 2009 •

The SP has, not for the first time, tabled questions to the Christian Democrat-Labour coalition government on the subject of Labour's apparent policy of using public money to further the party's ends, rather than the national interest. Labour Party (PvdA) Secretary of State for Europe Frans Timmermans set off last week, along with a coterie of Labour's great and good, on a pro-EU tour organised by a bureau of prominent PvdA personalities, This would have been unobjectionable had it been financed by the PvdA, rather than by the taxpayer.

However, “the initiative '27 hours for Europe' had a strong flavour of Labour,” was the conclusion drawn by SP European affairs spokesman Harry Van Bommel. The events involved were organised by a company, BKB, run by prominent Labour personalities. Many prominent Labour figures took part in these events, including Minister of Education and Culture Ronald Plasterk, Secretary of State for Public Health Jet Bussemaker, and the mayors of Rotterdam, Groningen and Utrecht.


Labour Secretary of State for Europe Frans Timmermans

“It's quite clear that this became no more nor less than a propaganda tour, an opportunity for Labour's enthusiasm for the EU to be heard loud and clear,” said Van Bommel. “Virtually nothing was said about the criticisms with which people in the Netherlands have responded to such matters as the over-hasty expansion of the European Union, the bureaucratic character of the EU and the democratic deficit. This tour became nothing but a propaganda festival, paid for out of our taxes.”


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#509* - EUkip, Rod LIDDLE & MAYBE A CONSPIRACY!

c#509* - EUkip, Rod LIDDLE & MAYBE A CONSPIRACY!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!


The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip, Rod LIDDLE HINTS AT HIS CHOICE OF VOTE & MAYBE A CONSPIRACY BEHIND IT ALL!!


Hi,

I tend not to be much of a fan of Rod Liddle's as he seems to represent very little which I value and is all too often seen to be enjoying 'knocking' but never seems to have much of an alternative suggestion.

It sort of comes across as the type of 1/2 an education - which is so common amongst EUkip supporters - they seem only to have THE CULT view.

Have you noticed that EUkip supporters and The BNP, The Greens and EU supporters all have the same powers of reasoning TOP DOWN indoctrination where very little intelligent debate seems possible - merely blind faith and mantras. Have you noticed just how vile members and supporters of UKIP & The BNP or The Greens and EU are when you dare to question or reason - can you see a single well thought out and balanced view from such organisations?

You only have to look at the vile responses of BNP or EUkip henchmen dishonest and extreme, only too willing to lie to achieve their aims - consider Mark Croucher, douglas Denny, BNP literature or the idiocy of Caroline Lucas or the mantras of Graham Watson, Richard Corbett and their ilk.

Consider whether the exposure of Westminster's penny ante payments of ALLOWANCES by The Telegraph was JUST for circulation or was it indeed a deliberate undermining of Westminster to place the minority parties with their clear incompetence and lack of intellect or political nouse in position?

Is Westminster, which is largely irrelevant, being replaced by the central EU construct. Is undermining confidence in these foolish venal folk merely a part of expanding the power of the EU - is it for this very reason that the manipulable and easily bought are being made more prominent for selection as MEPs having proved beyond any doubt during the last 10 years whilst they filled their boots with the bribes on offer, that they are utterly inefectual - merely useful idiots whether in chicken costumes or controlled outright by the data our enemies hold on these inept lightweights.

That the meeeja is holding back on exposing the truth about the BNP and their refusal to denounce murder and their roots in the white supremacist movement of America which has extolled or at very least turned a blind eye to the ritual killing of 4-5,000 mainly young men because they were black a practice that goes on to this day, whether the shooting of a Black Mayor in a supermarket car park last year or the dragging of a young man until he was just a lump of meat to be urinated on just a few years earlier.

Nor have they told much of the truth of EUkip, and there is much to tell but the meeeja has scented salvation - a way to put off failure and collapse and every newspaper in Britain is teetering on the brink - there is not a paper in Britain which has not seen advertising revenue collapse nor had a need to lay of journalists some on a wholesale basis.

The meeeja has scented blood and like chickens in a coup if one is ill the others will peck it to death, dog packs drive out the weak, the lame and the halt. Newspapers rally to the collapse of the old order as a circulation boom brought about by the collapse of the old order and the selection/election of the new.

Gordon Brown is that doomed animal the claque/pack has turned on. This time the situation is even more precarious as it takes place in an economic storm that stands ever chance of collapsing world currency and trade. Organising a train derailment is the easy challenge of a claque of 10 year olds but once the train jumps the rails not even the most informed of engineers will predict or be able to control the outcome and we note both the meeeja, in the form of The Telegraph et al and the blogosphere in the form of Guido and others - like 10 year olds derailing the train, the claque of the Revolution sharpening the guillotine without much thought of consequence.

WHAT NOW? All too many seem to have forgotten the Reign of Terror when the claque got its way!

Yes EUkip are getting a very easy ride to nurture them through their own inadequacies and incompetence, dishonesty and corruption, greed and venal stupidity as usefull idiots. The meeeja hope the upset where EUkip get a boost in votes NOT due to their ability but due to the meeeja desparation for survival at all cost.

Never forget that a virus nurtures its host until it kills it and moves on!

Spendthrifts, dolts, madmen - ooh, I can’t wait to vote

Rod Liddle

Good luck to any of you prepared to drag yourselves down to the polling booth this week: what a bright sunlit upland awaits you as you mark your cross beside the name of some wretched Westminster wannabe from either one of the three main parties – with their moats, mansions, tax evasions and sudden expedient contrition – or one of the others, the weird ones on the fringe.

The UK Independence party, for example, led by a chap called Nigel Farage, who resembles a frog that has just had a Chinese firecracker inserted in its rectum and, worse, is clearly enjoying the experience. Nigel cheerfully admits to having swallowed up 2m quid of taxpayers’ money in allowances in his 10 years as an MEP and seems to suggest that, as a consequence of this, he is one of the reasons the European Union should be abolished. Of course it has not made him more circumspect and parsimonious about his expenditure: quite the reverse.

And then two more of UKIP’s MEPs seem to have had their porky little fingers in the tills: Ashley Mote was banged up for benefits fraud, and more recently Tom Wise was accused of money-laundering. Both have subsequently been kicked out of UKIP – but the message is straightforward: when a political party starts telling you about the very real need for transparency and that it will wage a war on corruption, start counting your spoons.

The rest of UKIP, the ones who have not yet been interviewed at the local nick, seems to consist of embittered former Tory politicians so far to the right that they make the BNP look like your average attendee at Womad.

So, not them, then. But what about the BNP? Lately it has pretended to be more respectable, no longer the preserve of racist, bull-necked thugs who want the wogs to go home. Except for its candidate Eddy O’Sullivan, a racist, bull-necked thug who, on a website, posted the comment “Wog Culture Go Home” and is a member of a vibrant and very real organisation called F*** Islam.

Another BNP candidate, incidentally, resigned last week because she hadn’t previously realised that the party was somewhat averse, philosophically, to the multicultural ethos that she, actually, happily embraced.

Is it possible, by any stretch of the imagination, to be more thick than this, even if you have oxtail soup between the ears?

And what happened at her BNP candidate selection meeting?

Was she asked what she thought about black people?

“Yes, I think they’re absolutely terrific, full of life; I think we should have a lot more of them over here.”

Frankly, give me the fraudsters and the expense-account moat-dredgers over this level of imbecility.

You could vote for one of the Jury Team, a slate of free-thinking candidates who are pledged to all those agreeable buzzwords – accountability, transparency, independence from party control and so on. But beyond those vague aspirations we do not have a clue what they believe in: they may think that Wensleydale cheese is the work of Satan and that we should invade Poland tomorrow.

Even worse than this, one of its candidates may well be Esther Rantzen. You could be voting for someone who will harangue you for five years about kiddie-fiddling while occasionally showing you an example of a parsnip or a carrot that has, hilariously, grown into the shape of a penis. There is also a whole rack of pious God-botherers, wacko independents, monomaniacs etc. And the Greens, of course.

The EU is a ghastly and profligate mess and this forthcoming election is important. A sort of embarrassed collusion between the two main parties has ensured that it is also something we have not debated in any detail for the past 10 years or so.

And so the election takes place devoid of any ideological point other than as a stick with which to beat the government and the opposition for the errant behaviour of their respective MPs. You might be forgiven for writing it off and hoping that something with more substance hoves into view within the next 10 months.

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

Saturday 30 May 2009

#508* - Dr. Eric EDMOND - NOW & IN THE FUTURE


c#508* - Dr. Eric EDMOND - NOW & IN THE FUTURE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!



The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

Dr. Eric EDMOND'S BLOG - DISCUSSES NOW & IN THE FUTURE!


Hi,

I read the following article by Dr. Eric Edmond on his Blog and felt it deserved a wider audience - particularly as I considered the comments section had importantly expanded the issue.

I have therefore posted the Blog below together with the comments at the time of posting!

Do by all means read it in the original state on Eric's blog.


Eric Edmond's Blog

"Nigel Farage's Economy with the Truth"

I returned to the UK in time to see last night's Question Time with the great leader in a minor supporting role to the star of the show, Daniel Hanaan. Hanaan has led the fight to publish MEP expenses. Farage has not. Why not? Because he has had his snout in the trough, employed his wife and did not want his expenses published. His statement that he will publish receipts for his expense funded expenditure is not good enough. Dimbelby should have said that the electorate were surely entitled to know these facts before the 4th of June election when Farage was asking for their votes.

Farage again trotted out his imaginary tale of a UKIP meeting being stormed by a BNP member as part of a publicity stunt. He was clearly alluding to the NEC meeting of 3rd November which was attended by UKIP member Buster Mottram. When the BNP membership list was later placed in the public domain I could not find Mr Mottram's name on it. I believe that in the late 70s Mr Mottram was a member of the NF. This was known to Mr Farage whom I believe described it as a 'youthful indiscretion' and approved Mr Mottram's UKIP membership presumably because of Mr Mottram's high media profile as a former British number one tennis player.

I was at the meeting of 3rd Nov and my recollection of the events are as follows. Mr Mottram had written to the Party Chairman in September or earlier requesting an audience with the NEC. Chairman Nuttall phoned me prior to the scheduled October NEC meeting for my views. I replied that the NEC should always briefly see any UKIP member who wished to address us on UKIP matters. Nuttall then cancelled the October meeting at short notice citing that some members were unable to attend. (What he meant was they did not have sufficient votes on 6th October to kick me off the NEC!)

On 3rd Nov at 2:00 Del Young & I entered the first floor room at the Farmer's Club, Whitehall Court where the meeting was due to be held. Buster Mottram was sat on Martin Haslam's left with David Abbott sat on Martin's right. I sat down next to David with Del on my right. Farage & Nuttall arrived shortly afterwards and sat at the head of the table. (Farage and his cabal habitually have a preliminary meeting at the hotel next door prior to the NEC. David, Del and I were of course never invited!) It is quite simply a lie to say Mottram stormed the meeting. He did no such thing.

There was some debate about whether we should listen to Mottram and whom Nuttall had phoned re Mottram's attendance which I found confusing as he was referring to phone calls made 6 weeks previously for the October meeting. Martin said Mottram was there as a witness to his phone call from a jounalist from the Independent newspaper. This was a scandalous entrapment of Martin by Farage who had set up the whole thing with the jounalist so he, Farage, could accuse Martin of disloyalty. Later in the meeting I forced Farage to admit his sordid scheme and when he did I called his actions despicable and left. David, Martin and Mottram also left with me. At the same time the police arrived. Mottram was not ejected. He left of his own free will. Del left about 5 minutes later.

Mottram did testify to the spoof phone call to Martin and then challenged Farage about employing his wife at a large salary in direct contradiction of stated UKIP policy. Mottram then made some proposal of an electoral alliance with the BNP which was unanimously rejected. Denny, Zuckerman, Oxley and Duffy became increasingly agitated and hysterical. Nuttall completely lost control. There was no storming of the meeting as Farage stated.

That Farage fabricates stories on the hoof is seen by his claim on QT that full details of his expenses are available on the Open Europe website. I could find no such records and neither it seems could Anthony Butcher and others of Democracy Forum. Open the link below to read the thread:

Farage expenses

I have suffered from these Farage fictions before. Farage claimed one of the UKIP candidates deselected, i.e. me, had advocated supporting another party in the June elections. I never said this. What I did say in mid Dec 2008, after a meeting between Farages representive Malcolm Wood concerning Libertas and my local committee, a meeting at which I only spoke once to advocate support for Trevor Colman and the SW UKIP campaign, was that if the general feeling was to cooperate with Libertas I would not oppose it. At that time it was common knowledge that Farage was in discussions with Ganley concerning a joint campaign and in January, one month later, one of Farage's assistants registered with the Electoral Commission a party called Libertas UK!

It is a complete lie that I advocated supporting Libertas. My view was that if Farage and his cabal wanted to have some sort of joint campaign with Libertas I would go not oppose it. He had done this in Ireland with Ganley and frequently crowed about his contribution to the successful Ganley campaign against the Lisbon treaty. Farage was the one pushing the Libertas link not me. The proposed link died when Ganley saw through Farage.

I confidently predict Farage's expenses will never be made public in the same detail and over the same period as our MPs recently have been in the Telegraph. If they were Farage would suffer the same fate as these MPs like Hogg etc.


posted by Eric Edmond at 02:15 on 29-May-2009

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

Firstly I can confirm that Nigel Farage lied on Question Time regarding his expenses. There is absolutely no public record of his expenses - there is absolutely no listing of his expenses on 'Open EUrope' - In fact Nigel farage is on the record and it has been reported in The Sun that he stated that he had absolutely no idea where the £2,000,000 he boasted of making from the EU had gone (Tax Payers' Money!)

It is interesting that Farage has lied extensively on Sky also in an interview with Dermot Monaghan where he claimed to have the expense of a large office in his constituency to pay for - his large office is paid for by Julia Longhurst as recorded under donations.

Farage lied about employing his wife and even to date has failed to identify any meaningfull work she does for EUkip for her £30,000 a year as reported in The Times.

Then again Farage has lied about his allowances and expenses which far exceed the £2,000,000 he boasts of and may well be as high as £5,000,000 over the last 10 years - that tax expediency has suited a second mortgage on his home is no indication of his pecunniary status - that is better indicated by his spending profligacy and bank depositys to tax havens such as The Isle of Man - a deposit of £250,000 on one occasion alone!

That NBigel Farage openly lied about his Reichstag Fire Moment when he invented a problem and then invented its solution regarding the NEC meeting.

The tape recording clearly showed that Dr. Edmond's recollection of the meeting was largely right, however I can add a few substantiating facts.

No one 'Burst' into the room as Farage dishonestly claimed. There was absolutely no attempt by The BNP to infiltrate or take over the meeting, the NEC or EUkip - this is fancifull dishonesty by Farage and was a set up 'Reichstag Fire Moment' (not the first).

Buster Motram is a personal friend of Farage's from many years back and Farage had, as I recall, encouraged him to join EUkip as a member many years back. Farage had also used him as a minor celeb. speaker and draw card. I understand that Motram was in The National Front with Nigel Farage's Father Guy who was a stock broker and Ltnt. in the TA (Sharyp Shooters - Heavy Cavalry, now Tanks).

I also understand that Farage's cousing is associated with Motram and they are socially/familialy connected.

It is clear from the tape that Farage INVITED Motram to speak and that Motram delivered 'a proposition' that clearly HE had come up with which he had commented on in passing to Griffin of The BNP at some meeting.

It was only the lack of intelligence and self control by the moronic claque at the meeting that led to anything but a polite 'thank you and we will consider your idea', dismissal of the proposition.

Clearly the pond life on The NEC like Zucherman, Denny, Nuttall and their baying and braying rabble unaware of how to behave led to a totally outrageous display of behaviour.

The sad little Nuttall, Farage's unelected puppet chairman, lacked the maturity or competence to control the meeting and order was not restored until The Police arrived to restore order. At NO STAGE was anyone removed by The Police, their sole action was to restore order for an incompetent Chairman who had lost control of himself and the meeting.

The tape recording shows that Dr. Edmond's commentary was accurate and Farage is a liar.

No doubt this is why Farage felt the need to invent a case against loyal elected EUkip members to remove the honest ones - just look at the pond life that EUkip now has in its leadership team!

It is tragic to see the hopes and dreams of so many decent folk betrayed and the clear failure of UKIP and any meaningfull anti membership presence in The EU - replaced by liars, cheats, low lifes and a claque seeking self enrichment NOT the well being of these United Kingdoms.

Clearly UKIP has failed.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

29 May 2009 12:59

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

I note:

Dr. Edmond states:

He had done this in Ireland with Ganley and frequently crowed about his contribution to the successful Ganley campaign against the Lisbon treaty.

I believe even Eric Edmond has been duped if he believes this - Farage despite his claims had little or nothing to do with opposition to The (New Constitution) Lisbon Treaty, either in Britain, where he did absolutely NOTHING other than demoralise the EUroSceptics who want OUT of The EU nor in Ireland.

It is dishonest of Farage to make claims to having participated in Ireland in any meaningfull terms - to make such a claim is to overlook the longest serving member of the PRO EU Ind.Dem.Group the long term Chairman Jens Piers Bonde was looking for a new 'nice little earner' having resigned from The Ind.Dem.Group under something of a cloud.

Bonde latched onto Ganley and is now an 'adviser' to Ganley.

Since The Ind.Dem.Group are pro EU and pro CHANGE as is Libertas and thus with Ganley AND much of the Irish contingent of MEPs are in the group AND Cathy Snott is co Chairman of the Group it is hardly surprising that they used their share of the tax payers' money to organise a mail out.

What did Farage do??

I believe Farage is telling lies AGAIN.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

29 May 2009 13:54

Eric Edmond said...

Thx Greg,

I meant that Farage had been happy to be associated with Libertas in Ireland when Ganley won the vote against the Lisbon Treaty and Farage tried to bask in the reflected glory. However in late 08 when Ganley refused to work with Farage on the Euro elections I was portrayed by Farage as a traitor for stating I would go along with whatever was the majority view in UKIP on this matter.

I think neither the present UKIP or Libertas will free our country from EU rule that can only come from a UK party based in the UK winning seats in Westminster elections and repealing Heath's 72/73 European Act


30 May 2009 02:47

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

Increasingly as a result of the betrayal of Britain by The Faragista Fan Club and the demise of UKIP and the fact that Sir Alan Judge is little more than a pressure on The Tories (check his record!) and declan Ganley is on an ego trip with cash.

Increasingly I fear that Westminster will be no help as the structure is wrong for election of honest representation.

FPTP precludes small party election and even if EUkip had 70 MEPs they have no credibility or traction for a Westminster election nor have they sufficient members competent or trained with political nouse.

Increasingly a degree of limited civil revolt will become inevitable. The people will get us out of TheEU NOT the political elite.

The anger is NOT about political expenses at the moment but about betrayal by our Snivil Cervants & Political elite which is opening the door USING expenses as the door handle!

Astonishingly EUkip will get much of the praise but they have done more to keep us in The EU than get us out. The people will not permit the EU to continue.

Getting Britain out of the EU is OUR job as the people as UKIP is no more - EUkip is utterly without principle, ethics, morality or vision. There is not a single solitary candidate in EUkip likely to be elected who has not sold out.

They really are the scum of the earth - the leadership and candidates are a traitors to the ethics of Britain.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

30 May 2009 07:51

Eric Edmond said...

Greg,

I agree broadly with the thrust of your comments. UKIP are being heavily promoted and protected by the media and the BBC in particular for two reasons. First to try and keep the BNP vote down but more importantly to keep out those who genuinely want us out of the EU. This is the Establishment's major aim. As long as Farage and his fellow careerists run UKIP it poses no threat at all to the broad pro EU LibLabCon BBC consensus. A grass roots revolution of the type you describe driven by dire economic circumstances is our best hope of freeomg our country from EU rule.

30 May 2009 12:02

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

Eric Edmond said:

I agree broadly with the thrust of your comments. UKIP are being heavily promoted and protected by the media and the BBC in particular for two reasons.

I am not entirely sure you are not reading too much into this and creating the schiboleth of a 'conspiracy' - having seen the incompetence of how MPs have orchestrated the scam of paying themselves and giving themselves pay rises disguised as 'Allowances'
AND the fact that they have entered into a conspiracy to defraud HMR&C one realises just how incompetent they and the Snivil Cervants are!

Though I will say not a single politician in Britain had the integrity to break ranks and refuse to enter into what is a criminal conspiracy to defraud.

It was Parliament itself which denounced Edward VII and forced the Monarchy to pay taxes as every subject had to be bound by the same laws and taxes - You may recall HRH Anne was fined for speeding on HER MAJESTY'S HIGHWAY!

Eric Edmond said:

First to try and keep the BNP vote down,Unfortunately this has proved difficult as The BNP has displayed a great deal more political accumen that has EUkip and with better communications and less money!

That EUkip has acted as a recruiting sargeant for EUkip is to the eternal shame of The Farage Party - they have put a great deal of effort into raising the profile of The BNP.

Aided most noticeably by Mark Croucher, Searchlight & Farage's farcical fantasy 'Reichstag Fire' moment!

Eric Edmond said:

but more importantly to keep out those who genuinely want us out of the EU.

I would opine this is far more a case of venal little men who are dishonest enough to displace men and women of integrity, merely to keep their snouts in the trough - I do not believe ANY of the MEPs in EUkip have the intelligence or accumen to deliberately act in a political manner - they are imature lightweights with extraordinarily little competence or political nouse - hence they were heading for 0>3 MEPs based on their merit and ability.

It is merely the folly at Westminster, the poor damage limitation at Westminster and the myopic circus for circulation at The Telegraph that has changed EUkip's expectations.

Eric Edmond said:

This is the Establishment's major aim.

They have no need of loose cannons and intelectual pygmies nor moral dyslexics - Usefull idiots like EUkip's leadership act in such an entirely predictable manner that there is no need to hire, train or shelter them - The natural response to such people by Common Purpose and their forerunners The Moral Majority, The Communist and their accolytes be they like Searchlight or extreme authoritarianism of The Greens (and increasingly EUkip) is sufficient for the back lash of Labour or Tory luvvies who feel threatened - hence the BBC and 'so called' bias.

Eric Edmond said:

As long as Farage and his fellow careerists run UKIP it poses no threat at all to the broad pro EU LibLabCon BBC consensus.

I contend that Farage was right when he said there wasn't a cigarette paper twixt the Lib.Lab.Con. but then again there is not a Rizla twixt he and they as all are driven by venal greed and self enrichment - consider the £Millions Farage has made and where does he differ from the Lib.Lab.Con. - should it in fact be:
ELib.ULab.KConIP?

Eric Edmond said:

A grass roots revolution of the type you describe driven by dire economic circumstances is our best hope of freeimg our country from EU rule.,

Little changes from when I first said in 1959 or 1960 that the most dangerous time for the Western World would be when the masses realised that The USSR was not a threat as the centralising of its control had destroyed its efficacy and the moment of danger would follow the opening and destruction of The Wall.

It was in fact NOT the massive defence spend of The West that brought the wall down it was the beaming of 26 episodes of Dallas into The USSR by satellite - Why do you think Russian TV bought Coronation Street!

The next moment I predicted of inevitable catastrophy was in 1968 when Councils became salaried and had expenses and Wilson encouraged every citizen to have a bank account and pay to be by money transfer. Then I predicted it would be a very short time before Politicians advocated widespread use of credit to create a false feel good factor.

In 1969 I predicted a global economic whipe out and the debasement of currency to Zero value world wide with ensuing famine, wars of disassociation and protectionism and a 50% reduction in world population.

I was wrong on the date as I believed it would be in the first decade of the new millenium - but I believe it would be a brave man or a fool who gainsyed its inevitability within 10 years from the end of that decade.

We start to have uncontrollable power outs in 2-3 years - we already have Government Intervention Stores being secured and our police have had delivered 27,000 Heckler & Kochs and 17,000 Pump Action Shotguns (currently in store).

See the answer to Patrick Nicholl's question on my behalf of the Home Office, answered by Paul Boateng (remember him - yet another Scottish mafia member of Blair's team) - see Hansard.

It is inevitable and it is thus our duty to inform and oppose corruption so that when the storm comes the British peoples will have politicians they can trust - we have a lot of work to do!

The drawback of an unpleasant message is people will curse the messenger until it is too late ;-) Unfortunately that does not absolve us of our duty and now perhaps you understand why I and a few others are 'driven' - we have seen your future and wish to spare you of it.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

30 May 2009 13:54

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

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#507* - 'O BURN' SAYS THE MAIL of the Lib.Lab.Con.KIP

Two possible parties: Jury Team is a new political movement set up by philanthropist Sir Paul Judge, left, and Libertas founded by charismatic Irish businessman, Declan Ganley, right

#507* - 'O BURN' SAYS THE MAIL of the Lib.Lab.Con.KIP

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!


The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

'O BURN' SAYS Peter OBORNE in THE MAIL of the Lib.Lab.Con.KIP - 'NOT A CIGARETTE PAPER BETWEEN THEM'!!


Hi,

Peter Oborne does rather seem to take the lazy way out when it comes to comment on EUkip, but clearly his conclusion makes some sense, though I incline to the concept of withdrawing the mandate of every one of these irresponsible and dishonest parasites.

There is not one of the Politicians who are electable on the basis of a clear HONEST message to leave the EU from clearly HONEST representatives.

Just as ALL of the MPs and staff surrounding Westminster INCLUDING the Westminster Journalists have been aware of the scam of ALLOWANCES since 1971, as nothing more than a pay rise in which ALL MPs colluded in a conspiracy to defraud the tax payers by Fraudulently, well imorally, witholding monies due to HMR&C by way of 'evasion' of payment of taxes on salary and pecunniary benefits or benefits in kind seen as an integral payment of salary.

There is only one action an individual of integrity with any ethical understanding of politics today can morally make and that is to write on YOUR Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU

Why, for the first time in my life, I won't vote Tory next week . . .

by: Peter OBORNE

Traditionally, I am a Tory. Once in the polling booth it is never hard for me to put my cross beside the name of the Conservative candidate.


I've stayed loyal even during times when the Party has been in deep political trouble.
In fact, I've taken a special pleasure in supporting the Conservatives at those general elections, such as in 2001 when there was a Labour landslide, when it was deeply unfashionable to do so.

And yet now, with the Tories seemingly certain to win the next general election, I have a problem.



Not with next Thursday's local elections, in which those Tory candidates standing for council posts are, for the most part, decent men and women untainted by Westminster sleaze, but with the simultaneous election for the European parliament.

It is out of the question to vote for any Conservative candidate. To cast such a vote would be to sanction immorality, greed, law-breaking and corruption.

There are two reasons for this. The first is that Tory MEPs are part of the same expenses racket that has shamed Westminster.

For example, consider this statistic: MEPs have access to an annual £366,000 expenses pot, far more than the £144,000 enjoyed by MPs in Westminster.

Unfortunately, we do not know how they spend this money. Indeed, only six weeks ago MEPs (including the vast majority of Tories) voted to keep their expenses secret.

The second reason it is impossible to vote Tory is that next week's European elections offer the first chance for the nation to deliver a verdict on Westminster corruption.

Of course, Labour and LibDem MPs have behaved just as badly as their Tory counterparts.

And it is not right to vote for these two parties either. Furthermore, Cameron and Brown have one thing in common.

They have both evaded the real issue when it comes to cleaning up their parties in Westminster.
They have focused the blame on peripheral figures such as Labour's Margaret Moran (who claimed £22,500 for treating dry rot at her partner's home in Southampton, 100 miles from her constituency and from Westminster) or Tory Peter Viggers (who claimed £30,000 for gardening, including £500 worth of manure and a £1,645 floating duck island).

Meanwhile, both party leaders have protected more senior MPs. For example, Brown gave a clean bill of health to Transport Secretary Geoff Hoon, Work & Pensions Secretary James Purnell and Chancellor Alistair Darling.

Yet all three are tax-cheats whose conduct, if replicated by an ordinary member of the public, would undoubtedly lead to a criminal investigation.

These men should not be allowed to remain in British public life.

Cameron is guilty of the same inconsistency. While being tough on some backbenchers, he seems blind to the fact that a number of his Shadow Cabinet have been guilty of loathsome and amoral conduct.

I would never vote for a political party which includes Francis Maude (who claimed almost £35,000 for a mortgage on a London flat a few minutes' walk from a house he already owned and then rented out) or Alan Duncan (who submitted thousands of pounds of expenses for his garden before agreeing that the spending 'could be considered excessive').

There are also major questions about the conduct of Shadow Education Secretary Michael Gove (who spent more than £7,000 in five months furnishing a London property in 2006 before 'flipping' his second home designation to a new property he bought in Surrey) and the Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling (who got thousands of pounds to renovate a London flat only 17 miles from his constituency home).

As a result of this disgraceful state of affairs, for the first time in 30 years, I have been racking my brain for an alternative to voting Tory.

It goes without saying that it is impossible to support a racist party such as the BNP. Also, UKIP, the most obvious choice, can immediately be ruled out because one of its MEPs is facing prosecution for fraud.

This leaves those of us seeking politicians of integrity and decency with just two possible parties: Jury Team and Libertas.

Jury Team is a new political movement set up by philanthropist Sir Paul Judge, who has an outstanding record as a businessman and has donated generously to many charities.

His own integrity is beyond reproach and his list of candidates standing next week are independent figures (his team includes Esther Rantzen and former anti-sleaze MP Martin Bell) who are determined to clean up politics.

Meanwhile, Libertas was founded by charismatic Irish businessman Declan Ganley who, in a referendum, persuaded Irish voters to reject the Lisbon Treaty which would have given Brussels many more powers.

As a result, the British people already owe Ganley an enormous debt of gratitude. Equally, the European political class hate him - spending hundreds of thousands of EU money on a propaganda campaign linking him with a CIA plot devised by U.S. neo-conservatives to weaken the EU.

Significantly, this smear campaign has failed.

At a time of moral squalor and decay in Westminster and Brussels, both Libertas and Jury Team offer voters a hugely refreshing - and, perhaps, the only proper - alternative on Thursday.


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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

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#506* - EUkip MEP BLOOM's IN THE TIMES


c#506* - EUkip MEP BLOOM's IN THE TIMES

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!


The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip MEP Godfrey BLOOM IS IN THE TIMES + FAMILY & CROSS OVER STAFF!

Hi,

Morally reprehensible as this sort of scam is - I believe that Godfrey's actions were in fact legal - however how he, his company and his staff declared the income/expenditure to HMR&C may be more than a little complex.

Employment is one of the 'mine fields' in EU financial matters.

I understand that Derek Clark EUkip MEP and geriatric contender for his snout back in the trough - who betrayed EUkip, his coleagues and Britain by selling out for a comfier seat on the gravy train is currently under investigation for what are believed to be a string of frauds based amongst other areas on abuse of funds obtained from the tax payer.

I understand that Mick Nattrass who is also investing some of the money he slurpped from the troughs last time to get his snout back in the trough - it can only be for profit because in his last 5 years he was an embarrassment and achieved absolutely the square root of naff all to get Britain out of The EU, much beyond making a fool of himself and EUroScepticism and dressing up as a chicken!

Why Godfrey Bloom has been highlighted I'm not sure as am I not right in saying that Derek Bennett is a Fireplace Salesman for Nattrass AND his Regional Organiser?

That Farage has proved on a serial basis to be a liar and a cheat is becoming wider known but that such dishonesty is endemic in EUkip is getting across to the public rather belatedly - mainly I would think because based on their achievements to date EUkip was expected to get 0 to 4 MEPs - however as a result of 21 days of irresponsible Journalism The Telegraph would seem to have pushed the electorate into the arms of The BNP, EUkip and parties like them.

UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom pays assistants who also work for his investment firm

David Brown, Fran Yeoman and Victoria Swalwell

A British MEP uses his parliamentary staff allowance to pay three assistants who are also employed at an investment company in which he is a major shareholder.

Godfrey Bloom, the UKIP representative for Yorkshire and North Lincolnshire, who made headlines when he claimed that women do not “clean behind the fridge enough”, employs his 20-year-old niece and two other members of staff at TBO Investments.

Mr Bloom was director of research at TBO until he was elected to the European Parliament in 2004 and remained as a consultant until two years ago. He still owns 20 per cent of the company, which was fined £28,000 by the financial services regulator last October for “advice failings”.

Emma Brader, his accredited parliamentary assistant, and Victoria Skowronek, his secretarial assistant, were both working in the York headquarters of TBO Investments yesterday, six days before the European elections. David McLaughlin, another member of his staff, is a director of TBO Investments.

Mr Bloom, 59, has used his official website to highlight the expenses scandal at Westminster. It says: “Godfrey Bloom employs no immediate members of his family on his secretarial allowance, unlike most other MEPs (non-UKIP).” It also laments the “woeful lack of candour and common sense in modern-day politicians”.

He confirmed yesterday that Ms Skowronek was his niece and lives next door to him in Wressle, East Yorkshire. Ms Brader, 26, a leading point-to-point rider, wrote on Facebook about their prospects if Mr Bloom was not re-elected: “This would mean that Vicki and I would lose our jobs and Godfrey says we’d have to go on the game, but we wouldn’t make much money because we are too old!”

UKIP confirmed yesterday that Mr Bloom was questioned by a senior parliamentary official last year about a “possible conflict of interest with the employment contracts”. Paulo Cam- pilho, head of the parliamentary assistance and members’ general expenditure unit, decided that no further action should be taken, the party said.

Mr Bloom has become one of the best-known MEPs with his views on housewives, prostitutes and pregnant employees. He has claimed that “any small businessman or woman who employs a woman of child-bearing age needs their head examined”.

He also once argued that the majority of prostitutes were not exploited. “In short, most girls do it because they want to,” he wrote in an article for the Brussels-based political magazine The Sprout in 2006.

The Yorkshire Post reported that Mr Bloom admitted having visited brothels as a Hong Kong-based businessman, although the amount of beer he consumed meant that no encounters were consummated.

TBO was fined by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) for inadequate supervision and monitoring of staff providing advice to clients and for inadequate record keeping between December 2001 and October 2007.

One of the company’s current directors, Mr McLaughlin, 36, is Mr Bloom’s “paying agent” responsible for overseeing the salaries of his parliamentary staff. Mr McLaughlin is also paid about £200 a month to provide advice to the MEPs’ constituents on pensions and financial institutions.

Mr Bloom said yesterday that his eight parliamentary staff were all part-time and were paid an average of £25,000 a year out of his £140,000 staff allowance.

Mr Bloom said: “I am pretty well known as the cleanest MEP in town. All of the people who work for me are fully qualified and trustworthy.”

He said that the FSA fine was for a “technical breach” of the rules on record-keeping. He emphasised that no client money was misused.

Mr Bloom said that Ms Brader had worked for him full-time until Christmas when she announced that she planned to marry in June. He had known her since she was at Ripon Grammar School as her parents were prominent farmers but could not recall when she started work at TBO.

When she announced her marriage plans they decided it was best if she worked part-time and he recruited his brother-in-law’s daughter to become her assistant, Mr Bloom said.

Mr Bloom said that all his daily £261 subsistence allowance for attending the European Parliament was given to charities in his constituency. He said that his constituents could see the original receipts for his spending.


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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

Friday 29 May 2009

#505* - FARAGE IN BETRAYAL MODE? JUST A TIP!


#505* - FARAGE IN BETRAYAL MODE? JUST A TIP!

Hi,

I rarely get involved in tittle tattle but I hear much of the significance of TWITTER - though as I have never believed myself to be at anyone's beck and call and have never used a mobile phone - I am the last to judge its significance.

However having read many of the comments mailed to me on 'e'Mail that have been lifted off of Twitter - I find it so aptly named as clearly it is for Twits.

The obscenity of much of the language and the childish idiocy of what passes for messages tells me all I need to know to confirm the wisdom of avoidance. Then I hear people discussing which Twits are well known as large users and I realise I am well off without it.

Who would want a conversation in bad shorthand and childish abreviations with Stephen Fry, Jonathan Ross or their ilk - who would want the flow of foul language from annabell Fuller or the filth of Gawain Towler?

No all in all one is so much better off without it and I understand there are a mere 6,000,000 of these clearly challenged individuals Twit enough to Twitter world wide!

That said I get quite a lot of link ins like the one below.

I make no claim as to its veracity as I would not know a pearl of wisdom from dog poo on Twitter.

I leave it to my readers to draw their own conclusion from the 'e'Mail sent me on which I have removed the sender.


Greg

Here is a lead for you, which supports your labeling UKIP's leaders as EUKIP.

Please take as your article - not mine!

You are doing a great job in difficult circumstances. I am just disgusted with Farage.


Q: Why did Farage help a Europhile Lib Dem MP Sandra Gidley with information on an MEPs expenses?

The party of the MEP are not mentioned in the conversations below but what on earth is he up to collaborating with the most europhile party at Westminster?


quote:

Chris Hatch to Sandra Gidley

"@SandraGidley Nigel Farage almost strikes me as the sort of person that would make you want a shower after a meeting with him #QT"

http://tinyurl.com/n5k7bz


in reply Sandra Gidley stated

"@ChrisHatch He's nicer in real life - very helpful in telling me about abuse of a certain MEPs expenses!"

http://tinyurl.com/oejxde

Make of it what you will.

#504* - A VOTE for EUkip IS A WASTED VOTE


#504* - A VOTE for EUkip IS A WASTED VOTE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!


The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!


A VOTE for EUkip OR TheBNP IS A BETRAYAL OF BRITAIN - A WASTED VOTE!


Hi,

so The Telegraph has spotted the tip of an iceberg rather late in the day - don't forget the lookout on The Titanic spotted the Iceberg but rather too late.

Better some truth published by The Telegraph than none at all as they have been obsessed with circulation as they dribbled out the penny ante fiddles at Westminster when if they had really had some good investigative Journalists they would have done the investigation in The EU where are laws are made and where the laws handed down by The NWO Global Governance are finessed, bodies like U.N.E.C.E., W.H.O., U.N.E.S.C.O., etc.

The Telegraph has the resources to tell people the truth but for 21 days they have failed in their duty in the run up to the election of our Government on the 4th. June - they have failed whilst they tittle tattle. Now all of a sudden they realise the damage they have done with their irresponsible failure to tell the truth and they realise their greedy grub for circulation has pushed the electorate into the arms of extremists.

Whether the extreme Racism and anti Judaism of The BNP
or
The vile self serving lurch backwards, away from Democracy, to Authoritarian, Centralised Self Serving Wingless Bullies in Blazers - where no gutter is too vile, if it leads to self enrichment without principle - The EUkip.
or
The New Cult Religion of Fear with the domineering extremists of the quasi Communist Green Party where to fly in a plane is as much a crime as to knife a stranger in the street!!! Mad or what!

That these dishonest and unpleasant people are in the ascendancy is not from their efforts but from the irresponsible self serving muck raking of The Telegraph as they stir the **** in the little backwater of Westminster, without explaining THESE ARE ALLOWANCES - Well actually PAY RISES because Politicians of ALL Parties have colluded in the scam - A scam that merely shows OUR servants were too gutless to tell us they had granted themselves a pay rise in 1971 and TOOK it in ALLOWANCES.

The Telegraph claims a vote for EUkip is a wasted vote - I do not agree a vote for EUkip or The BNP is to vote for Evil - a mallicious act of anti Patriotism, a betrayal of all Britain stood for.


Why a vote for Ukip is a wasted vote
Telegraph View:
The voters are in a mood to punish MPs from all the main parties

Telegraph View


Last Updated:
8:35PM BST 29 May 2009


On Thursday, the British public goes to the polls. One thing is for sure: voters are in a mood to punish MPs from all the main parties for their venality, arrogance and, in some cases, dishonesty. Inconveniently, however, these are not Westminster elections. The candidates are standing for the European Parliament or local councils. Their expense claims are not yet a major issue and, in theory, the scandals uncovered by this newspaper have only limited bearing on the elections.

But let us be realistic. The European Union and local government will not be uppermost in many people's minds as they reach for the pencil in the polling booth. For staring out at them will be the names of the main political parties to which greedy MPs belong. After weeks of eye-popping revelations about a system of expenses which was disgracefully lax, even when it was not being abused, how can we expect voters not to react in some way?

But we do not live in normal times. The executive and legislature of the United Kingdom are effectively paralysed by revelations of shabby behaviour, on a scale that has shocked all but the most diehard cynics. The European and local elections offer an opportunity for a protest vote, a vote that expresses disgust at the moral collapse of an entire political class. But there is only one meaningful protest that the electorate can register at the polls, and that is one that helps force the Government to call a general election in the near future. And that excludes voting Ukip.

The recent history of Ukip raises serious questions about its competence, to put it mildly. The fiasco of Robert Kilroy-Silk's involvement with the party was just one of many bouts of vicious infighting. It has sought to make capital out of the expenses scandal, but is itself no stranger to financial controversy. One of its MEPs, Ashley Mote, was expelled from the party and later jailed for benefit fraud. (He hopes to appeal the verdict.) Another MEP, Tom Wise, is facing prosecution for alleged false accounting and money laundering relating to his EU expenses. He denies the charges. Meanwhile, one of its most distinguished former supporters, the economist Tim Congdon, has left Ukip, claiming that it has been "captured by the European institutions" and neglects its British Eurosceptic supporters. More worryingly, as this newspaper reported last weekend, it has "become a haven for elements of the far Right". In David Cameron's phrase, it attracts "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists".

If a vote for Ukip is extremely foolish, a vote for the BNP is something much worse. We argued the other day that this clownish outfit is not as dangerous as it would like us to think; nor should its political programme be taken very seriously, as it is crude and self-contradictory. Yet broadcasters, including the BBC, are suddenly giving BNP spokesmen more airtime than can be justified by the party's current low levels of support. It would be disastrous if the media's disproportionate focus on this intolerant, fascist sect, riven by ludicrous factional disputes, actually persuaded large numbers of voters that it was a valid alternative to the main parties on June 4.

The point to stress is not that the BNP is likely to become a significant force in British politics, but that voting for it is wrong. As Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali argues on these pages today, the party's message is anti-Christian. Indeed, it is incompatible with any philosophy based on respect for human dignity. The received wisdom is that working-class former Labour voters will be especially susceptible to the BNP. If that is true, then they should think again. The BNP is not a neo-Nazi party, but it has historic links with Nazi sympathisers. White working-class voters should remember that their grandparents fought against, and some were killed by, a Nazi regime that, like the BNP, demonised immigrants. A vote for the racist far-Right next Thursday will dishonour their memory.

This week's contests are among the most complex in living memory, in that polls for assemblies outside Westminster are likely to serve as the vehicle for a public disgust at Westminster politicians that cuts across party boundaries. They are no substitute for what the country desperately needs, which is the opportunity to elect a new national parliament. With every passing day, the prospect of a long delay becomes more outrageous, as MPs announce their intention to "stand down" at the general election, enabling them to collect fat pay-offs not available if they were to resign their seats immediately. Until then, some of these politicians are so discredited that their constituents are effectively left without representation at Westminster.

We have called before, and will keep on calling, for a general election this year. Meanwhile, we must make the best use of those elections we do have.


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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!


To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

#503* - John PETLEY on EUkip's DEMISE


#503* - John PETLEY on EUkip's DEMISE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!



The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

John PETLEY ex-EUkip INSIDER on EUkip's DEMISE!


The failure of UKIP:
By: John Petley EUkip Researcher
(all 7 parts)

This essay by John Petley was first delivered at Swindon, where it was recorded - although I had access to the recording I never got around to transcribing it once listened to.

At the time John Petley promised me a hard copy by post but ended up reneging on his promise, sadly, or more people would have started learning the truth sooner. Unfortunately it seems to some extent Petley seems almost to have wanted to suppress the truth.

Eventually John sent a hard copy to John West and about 3 weeks ago after confirmation that it was in the public domain (albeit very limited) John West forwarded a copy to me. I decided to hold back on publishing it until I had given a copy to Junius and we discussed the idea that first Junius would post it on little Anthony Butcher's Forum - as it carries so little material above the gutter comments of the liars and rascals desparately peddling EUkip as something other than a total betrayal of its members.

I have read much that is on the Forum and astonishingly I can not remember a single sensible report of an actual achievement of EUkip of any value - not a single solitary effort to show how Britain could leave The EU, with absolutely no adult thought of what is their exit and survival strategy for Britain - just endless vile attacks on those who do not worship the genius of EUkip.

Anyway now that Junius has put all 7 parts of John Petley's Essay on the Forum I have posted on my blog and Junius aims to post it on the Junius blog later on.

I was amused to see that Croucher with the aid it seems of Searchlight and open access to EUkip's servers claims that Piers Merchant is Junius - today some twit is convinced it is Niall Warry, these can be added to it being me, David Bannerman, Gary Cartwright, someone working for Trevor Colman, John Petley, Bruce Lawson, Tom Wise, an OLAF Official, Adrian Meldrew, 10 Downing Street, Cameron's Office, The EU, MI5, Gerard Batten (someone in his office), even John West has been accused by the odious Peter Cole in an attempt to smear him! - to name but a few!

A measure of the stupidity of EUkip's leadership and supporters is that they believe Croucher, lies, spin and serial dishonesty not withstanding - So it must be Piers Merchant and he has conned everyone into believing that Junius' source has dried up - Yeah Really! Denny and the foolish folk on The Forum haven't had the smarts to look at their diaries have they! There is absolutely no doubt that my sources have changed since election fever broke out - don't forget that there is less gossip and leaks from the bars of Brussels at the moment.

However if one story comes right there will be a feature article on Bloom, if another comes right there is planned a double page spread in a red top. Then of course there is ongoing publicity with Brian Flynn and George Pascoe Watson and Croucher has done immense damage to EUkip by re-emerging as it has damaged what credibility Clive Page had managed to build with Journalists and I know of two positive stories that were destroyed by Croucher's re-emergence.

I'd like to thank all who are disgusted at the corruption of EUkip and the lies of Farage and his claque that have so damaged EUroRealism, that they have supplied either myself directly or unwittingly supplied Junius with material that we have been able to bring to public attention.

You will all, assuming you are ethical and have fundamental morality, be disgusted at the thought that the filth that EUkip has become may actually be rewarded for having destroyed the aims and ideals of UKIP for their own greed and self agrandisement.

Again I repeat that @ of some £15,000,000 trousered by EUkip MEPs they have brought less information and oposition to the vile EU to the attention of the British public than has a 30p. copy of The Sun!

An analysis of UKIP’s failures by John Petley, ex-UKIP researcher


What has gone wrong? A number of things, and binding many of them together is a common thread – the failings of the current party leader, Nigel Farage.

The Farage problem – a personal perspective on a flawed personality



Many past and present UKIPpers started off initially impressed with Nigel Farage. My personal route from awe to disgust of the man is in a sense unique, but in other ways typical of what so many past and present UKIPpers have gone through. The first UKIP speaker I heard was Jeffrey Titford, at a Democracy Movement meeting in St. Leonards, East Sussex. He seemed to be talking sense, and I was reasonably impressed.


On mentioning this to members of the local branch, the response from I received was, "Wait until you’ve heard Nigel Farage."

I was able to hear him a few months later in nearby Bexhill, and found his direct, hard-hitting style quite exciting and refreshing - a contrast from most politicians in the three established parties. When criticism of Roger Knapman began to surface following the triumphs in the 2004 European Parliamentary elections, I picked up the feeling that many members at the time wanted to replace him not with Kilroy but with Nigel, feeling that a dynamic young leader would restore the momentum that we seemed to be losing.

I would never have supported the removal of Roger. I felt that he was underestimated by the membership. (and having subsequently got to know him through working in Brussels, I believe this assessment was correct.) However, looking to when his term of office was to end, I would then have supported Nigel for leader. He seemed the rising star – the obvious heir apparent.


Amidst all the adulation, the first criticism I first heard of Nigel was at a UKIP SE activists’ meeting from a member of a branch from Kent, who said he had a big ego. Until this point, the only negative thing I had heard about him was that he had not denied visiting a brothel in (I think) Athens. My contact with him had been quite limited before starting in Brussels. He had struck me as "rather a lad" who liked his booze and fags, but I knew that I should not expect a politician necessarily to adhere to my Christian standards. I was looking forward to getting to know him better when I started my new job in Brussels, and felt rather in awe of him.


Within a couple of months, my view of him had begun to change. There were several reason for this.


Firstly, when he came to be the guest speaker at the annual dinner of my local UKIP Branch, Bexhill and Battle, his speech was disappointing. It was all about himself, and was a regurgitation of anecdotes I had heard before.

Secondly, there were further rumours of his sexual impropriety, including that he was having an affair with Annabelle Fuller, one of my colleagues in Brussels at the time, who subsequently achieved such notoriety in the UKIP press office. More serious was the fact that cronyism rather than competence seemed to be what counted. Brussels was very much Nigel’s empire, as he had been there as an MEP since 1999, was head of the UKIP delegation and co-president of the Ind Dem group.

He had considerable say in who joined the staff, and what their roles were to be. The then head of research, Adrian Muldrew, was complaining repeatedly about the low quality of work produced by two of the staff – one being Annabelle Fuller and the other Steve Reed, his current office assistant of whom more anon.

David Lott, Chief of Staff and very much Nigel’s man, refused to take any action, and actually turned against Adrian. This seemed very odd. as I had been taken on ostensibly as part of a move to "professionalise" the party.


At this time, I first heard about the questions being asked about the South East region accounts. Another colleague of mine told me that he would never give any money to a general UKIP appeal because he had no confidence where the money would end up.


Although shocked by all this, I took the Biblical attitude of not wanting to believe an accusation unless there were two or three witnesses, I didn’t have to wait long for further evidence. A chance conversation with UKIP’s previous Head of Staff (i.e. before David Lott), confirmed the essence of what I had been hearing, and added that Nigel had been a factor in every major UKIP bust-up since the departure of Alan Sked.


The failure of UKIP Part 2

By the summer recess of 2006, a mere seven months since coming out to Brussels, I was now firmly of the opinion that Nigel Farage was a liability to the party. I had met some of the other notorious Farage cronies like John Moran, and was not impressed. I also heard from a colleague about a conversation between Farage and Gerard Batten shortly before the Bromley by-election.


It transpired that Farage had discussed a deal whereby if the Tories selected the Eurosceptic but not withdrawalist MEP Syed Kamall as their candidate, UKIP would not put up a candidate. On hearing of this, Gerard was incensed and said, "If you don’t stand, I will." As it happened, the Tories chose Bob Neill, and with Gerard being the ultra-loyalist that he is, he chose not to leak this out. Nigel then announced at a big UKIP meeting the following weekend about how excited he was at being able to contest another by-election. Most people cheered. I was livid.


I did not vote for him as party leader, but for a while it seemed that I would have to swallow my misgivings, as in the first few months of the Farage leadership, the party acquired two Lords, then the economist Tim Congdon and several other significant Eurosceptics. A year later, I was to discover that this new sense of hope in the party was not matched by the opinion polls. UKIP slumped to below 1%, and the start of the slump coincided with Farage’s election as leader.


I had heard of Farage’s habitual lying, but had first hand evidence of it when NEC member David Abbott’s two inadvertant $100 donations to a BNP support group in America was blown up in the national media in March 2007 simply because of David’s criticism of Nigel’s leadership. Before standing for the NEC, David came quite clean about this donation, which he had made before realising who the organisation represented.


He did not want to stand for office if it would compromise him. Being so insignificant a sum, a one-off and inadvertent, Nigel and others said it was not a problem. However, when David began to start opposing Nigel on the NEC, Nigel deliberately leaked this out to he press and made it out that David had been seriously involved with the BNP. When I challenged Nigel, saying that either he or Mark Croucher were ill-advised to have done this, his reply was "Neither I nor Croucher contacted the Press."

The Press had also spoken to a person I know (whose identity I should keep confidential) who has held senior office in the party about the David Abbott business, and this person told me that when the reporter concerned rang up, he said, "I've just been speaking to Mark Croucher."


Perhaps I should add that this exchange occurred when Nigel summoned me into his office and questioned me about my friendship with Adrian Muldrew. Adrian was by now absolutely persona non grata with Nigel, but a few months earlier, Adrian had kindly offered me a home for a couple of weeks when there had been a temporary delay in moving into new accommodation in Brussels. I had left Adrian’s house quite a while before my interview with Nigel, but what business was it of his anyway?


Being summoned into Nigel’s office was by now an ordeal which I dreaded. I had to summon up my best acting skills and always stared him straight in the eye. He often shuffled his legs up and down under the table – a sure sign that he wasn’t comfortable either. Some times, it was nothing to worry about, and he was usually pleased with he research I did for him.


However, once he came into my office and ranted at me because I had contacted Mike Nattrass (whose assistant I was for a while) about a dubious amendment to a piece of Parliamentary legislation put forward at Committee stage by Jens-Peter Bonde, Ind Dem Co-president, in the name of the group.

Adrian had spotted this and said that UKIP MEP’s couldn’t support it, as it was giving more power to the EU (I can’t remember the exact details beyond this) I thought I had better tell Mike, and Mike must have contacted Nigel, who then stormed in and said, "But we always vote against this in Plenary." I guess Nigel knew I wasn’t happy with UKIP MEP’s being in Ind Dem.


The failure of UKIP Part 3

It was not just over Ind Dem that I disagreed with Nigel’s policy. He spoke at Hastings in November 2005 and said something on the lines of, "Well, UKIP isn’t getting much exposure because the EU isn’t in the news much now, but just wait - it’ll be back on the agenda."


He was proved right with a vengeance when the failed Constitution metamorphosised into the Lisbon Treaty, but he singularly missed the opportunity to put UKIP at the head of the campaign to oppose it. It was always going to be a tough battle to stop the treaty, but it would have put the party back in the consciousness of the electorate. Instead, it was left to an ordinary Party member to launch the "Parish Polls" initiative.

On the day of the mass lobby of the House of Commons, Farage was in Brussels. This missed opportunity, for which he must take the blame, must represent UKIP’s biggest political mistake in its entire history.


I had the task for the last year of answering difficult e-mails sent to Head Office in Newton Abbot. I always took the party line, even if I was personally uncomfortable with it, such as over Nigel’s defiance of the Parliament’s smoking ban and support for pro-smoking groups.


Only once, when I was forwarded a query about Derek Clark signing Ind Dem’s "Bucharest declaration" on UKIP’s behalf with its support for subsidiarity and CAP reform did I deviate from this rule, and simply passed it to Ind Dem enthusiast Gawain Towler to answer. I felt this e-mail was a poisoned chalice. If I took the party line, not only would it sit uneasily with my conscience, but it could be held against me if at a later date (as I hoped) UKIP would renounce Ind Dem.

However, if I had said what I felt - that I agreed with the e-mail, that the signing was a mistake and that UKIP’s MEP’s should not be in Ind Dem - Nigel would have gone ballistic if he had found out. Fortunately, Gawain never followed up my reasons for passing this e-mail on, so I lived to fight another day.


Nonetheless, By the summer of 2007, I felt that I was living on borrowed time. In many ways, I am amazed I lasted so long. I ensured that no-one was around when I rang any known opponents of Farage in the UK, and he never knew just who I knew. I always kept my office door closed, and fortunately, the enthusiasm of Farage and his cronies to go off most evenings drinking in O’Farrell’s (the Irish pub very near to the Parliament building) meant I had some privacy.


By this time, staff and MEP’s were split down the middle. Farage supporters, notably Gawain and the odious Aurelie Laloux (Jeffrey Titford’s assistant) held the senior positions among the staff. When Aurelie went off for maternity leave, things improved somewhat, but her return signalled the start of three awful months.


The atmosphere in the office from February 2008 to my departure in April gave me an inkling of what it must have been like to live in the Soviet Union – You were always watching your back and every pair of footsteps outside the office door made you feel uneasy. So bizarre that fellow-withdrawalists should be the cause of such a poisonous atmosphere. I have to say that in over two years working in Brussels, I had no animosity from the "nasty" EU. UKIP staff were treated fairly.


My dismissal shows the utterly devious nature of Farage. He was not directly involved, but his fingerprints are all over it. It all began on Monday 7th April after the "Stop the Treaty" conference in Bristol which I went to. When I got back to Brussels, I tried to access my parliamentary e-mail account, but was unable to do so.


I entered the password about 10 times, but was repeatedly blocked. I know that I did not type in my password incorrectly. Having worked in IT before going into research, I knew hacking when I saw it. The hacker had, fortunately, failed to guess my password, but had locked me out. I spoke to Oumar Dombouya, the man delegated to manage IT affairs for Ind Dem. He re-set my password and set a monitoring facility on my account, as Adrian had had a similar problem, and suspected hacking.


On Thursday afternoon (10th April), Graham Booth came into my office with a print-out of the names, subjects and dates of the e-mails I had sent in recent weeks. He asked me to print out the contents of four of these. After he had left the office, I looked at a couple of these e-mails, and as I was doing so, the access to my e-mail account suddenly went down. When I eventually was able to bring up the initial screen and try to sign on, once again, I was locked out, just as I had been the previous Monday.


I subsequently discovered that it is within the rules to print out the list (although not the content) of the e-mails sent by EP staff without asking them. However, I did not know this at the time, and refused to take Booth ‘s word that this was the case or provide him with the content of these e-mails until I could establish the facts. In view of my suspicions about someone trying to tamper with my e-mails, I think this was quite reasonable.


However, his response to my refusal my saying that in his eyes, this amounted to a "lack of trust" in me, This was the catch-all phrase that can be used to dismiss staff if you don’t like them but can’t find any good reason for so doing. I had always got on fairly well with Graham until then, and I know Nigel set him up, because he expressed a very negative opinion of one person to whom these e-mails were sent (a branch chairman in the South East) and when I contacted this individual, he said that he had never had any dealings with Graham. Only Nigel could have singled out this e-mail.


Oumar was very helpful initially to my attempts to find out who had been hacking into my account. He traced it to a UK-registered machine (no surprise!) but could not go any further because of intimidation by members of the Ind Dem secretariat. He subsequently kept his distance from me, simply out of fear.


My dismissal was e-mailed to me on Thursday 24th April. This was a Strasbourg plenary, and I was teleworking at the time. Quite honestly, it was a relief not to have to go back to Brussels. It amazed me to hear that Graham Booth had been going round the South West telling people that I (along with Adrian Muldrew and Gary Cartwright) were MI5 spies! Meanwhile, Steve Harris, (UKIP’s SE regional organiser) again no doubt mouthing Nigel’s words, has been telling people in the South East that my dismissal was because I was hacking into other people’s e-mails!


The failure of UKIP Part 4

My desire to see Nigel removed as leader is not a case of sour grapes because he sacked me. He sacked me because I already held this opinion, and I am not very good at hiding my feelings. I remember having a conversation with Roger Knapman outside his office, and said something about, "the days when we had a decent leader." At that moment, Nigel came up the corridor. He can’t fail to have heard what I said.


Only in one way has my opinion changed since my dismissal. I believed right up to early November that if Nigel could be removed as leader, UKIP would have a future. The November NEC meeting was a watershed.


It is clear firstly that removing Nigel Farage as leader is going to be very difficult.

Secondly, that even if it could be done, it would not be enough – his cabal have to go too, and as names like Zuckerman are unknown to many members, it would be hard to press the case against them. Farage’s dealings with me bear the marks of a tyrant.

He brings out the worst of those that get close to him - Graham Booth’s behaviour over my dismissal illustrates this perfectly. At the same time, he tries to destroy anyone who opposes him. The party is now in the grip of man who I can only describe as evil.

The poison emanating from him has so ruined the party that it is not a case of merely removing him as leader – his political career must be ended in June 2009. If the only way of doing this is to take UKIP down with him, so be it. The withdrawalist cause needs a more honourable spokesman and a better party to fight its cause.


Farage more than anyone else is responsible for giving UKIP such a poor image that it has become a bit of a joke. I now no longer have any pride at being a member, but rather embarrassment. My UKIP car sticker has been removed a long time ago now. As we move on to look at the other aspects of why UKIP has failed, his name will come up again and again. His personal failings, which I have described above, are coupled with exceedingly poor political judgement and a disastrous policy in Brussels.


Playing on innocence


Many of those who joined UKIP, myself included, were new to politics. We could see that being in the EU was not in Britain’s best interests, but did not necessarily combine this piece of wisdom with political discernment. I would guess I am not alone in admitting that at one point, I believed two things I now regard as erroneous – firstly that anything in print that says something bad about the EU must be correct, and secondly that anyone opposed to Britain’s membership of the EU must be a good chap. I will address the first of these mistakes later on. It is the second I want to concentrate on at this point.


Nigel’s shrewdness has enabled him to carve out his power base in the party. His youth and eloquence have made him a hero with many party members. Steve Harris once told a meeting at which I was present of a phone call were someone asked him, "When is that young man going to become Prime Minister?" I have no reason to doubt that Steve was telling the truth. It epitomises how Nigel has played on the innocence of many party members.


They have not had sufficient experience to spot when his leadership has been poor. He would not have dared depict the dressing up in chicken costumes of three members of staff in Strasbourg on the front of Independence unless he was sure that his adoring fans would think it was a wonderful gesture rather than the appalling schoolboy buffoonery that the rest of the world viewed it as.


He has been able to gain total control over UKIP’s media. "You don’t work for the party, you work for me," he told one employee in the Press Office. That admirable quality of trust which is a feature of so many UKIP members has enabled him to turn the Independence into a very one-sided view of things. Our dear. loyal members are not aware of the control he has carved out for himself. He has marshalled party opinion behind him by equating opposition to himself with "attempts to destroy the party."


From now on, sadly, this will be the case, and those of us who have come out publicly against him are likely to face all manner of vitriol not just from the Faragistas, but from well-meaning members who have been denied the chance to hear both sides of the argument. The suppression of dissent is not healthy in a political party. It leads to "yes men" ending up in senior positions – a sure recipe for disaster.


The failure of UKIP Part 5

The Brussels disaster.


One blogger recently mocked UKIP by saying how ridiculously inflated the role of an MEP had become in the party. Other parties don’t send out their first XI to Brussels, but being an MEP gives you almost god-like status among some sections of the membership of UKIP.


The big point of disagreement I would have with this statement is that UKIP has most definitely NOT sent out its First XI to Brussels. Nigel was unable to stop London choosing the hard-working and honest Gerard Batten for the No. 1 spot, nor to stop Roger Knapman being elected in the South West. However, his objective of ensuring that he ended up with a team of which he would be the star was, to a degree, successful. The result has been an unmitigated disaster.


I have referred to the innocence of many party members. The idea that the MEP lists were manipulated would never have crossed most of our minds back in 2004. Nigel had to be careful because he had already built up a structure in which the party’s MEP’s would operate, and better to have someone unsuitable but who would not ask questions rather than a competent individual who, besides challenging Nigel’s pre-eminence, might ask too many questions, especially on financial matters.


In the five years from 1999 to 2004, he had made the acquaintance of people like Jens-Peter Bonde – a past master at making money out of Euroscepticism. The Ind Dem Group, like its precursor EDD, is a fairly loose coalition of assorted Eurosceptics from both the left and right of the political spectrum who have joined together purely for the financial benefit of being in a group.


UKIP are the only withdrawalists in this group – a fact that has raised eyebrows on several occasions when I have mentioned this to party members. Ind Dem has encouraged a culture of financial secrecy, and Farage has bought into this. His reluctance to be open about his financial matters has brought the party into disrepute, and already the Lib Dems are attacking UKIP on the doorsteps saying they have "gone native." Financial issues are likely to be an increasing embarrassment to UKIP in the run-up to June 2009.


It is not just the financial issues that have contributed to the disaster of UKIP’s MEPs in Brussels – there have been all too many instances of poor, ill-prepared speeches. Graham Booth’s setting himself up as an authority on climate change on the strength of an "O" level in astronomy has been an embarrassment. I have written speeches for some MEP’s and have seen them mutilated and spoilt by the MEP in question. Sometimes, it has been an embarrassment to listen to them in the Plenaries.


There have been exceptions, notably Roger Knapman, who ensures his speeches are well-written, and Gerard Batten, who always writes his own speeches after careful research. Sadly, however, Godfrey Bloom’s infamous speech in 2004 about women cleaning behind fridges has set an all-too-common precedent.


The press have been all too ready to pounce on bad behaviour by UKIP’s MEP’s. Tom Wise was unfortunate to be duped by an undercover reporter on the subject of MEP’s allowamnces. Nigel was lucky that the occasion when he was so drunk in a bar Strasbourg that he had to be carried out did not receive more coverage than it did.


Besides the MEP’s, the staff have not always delivered the goods. All too many of Gawain Towler’s press releases have been bad to the point of embarrassment. I was asked once to write a press release. Gawain’s editing of it included replacing one word with another meaning the exact opposite! While I cannot prove this, I would suspect that some 90% of press releases would have gone straight into the editors’ wastepaper bins.


On another occasion, at a meeting of a think tank in Brussels where the guest speaker was Dan Mitchell, a senior fellow of the Heritage Foundation, an American think tank Gawain turned up seriously drunk. He introduced me to this man (I had yet to fall out of favour at this time) but I was acutely embarrassed. Gawain has also admitted to me that he has smoked over 100 joints!


Aurelie Laloux is another disaster. She was taken on by UKIP in the 1999-2004 Parliament because of her excellent linguistic skills, as only in 2004 was English placed alongside French in official Parliamentary communications. Her political judgement is less acute, and had led to some very bizarre voting lists being produced which UKIP’s enemies like Labour MEP Richard Corbett have been delighted to publish.


When there was a debate on the Lisbon Treaty at Strasbourg in early 2008, the Green group (or was it the Communists?) proposed a "rejection amendment" – i.e. that the treaty should be rejected. Aurelie’s voting list, prepared for UKIP’s MEP’s, did not have us supporting this amendment. She has also been responsible for choosing which debates UKIP’s MEP’s will speak in. Her choice has been quite bizarre at times, giving the speechwriters (such as myself) the challenge of preparing speeches offering very little opportunity for the MEP to make any telling point, as the debate may have been on something quite obscure – such as updating EU air traffic agreements with countries in North Africa to include the new member states.


As for Nigel’s assistant Steve Reed, he deserves a chapter to himself. We will look at him under the heading, "Professionalising the Party?" His voting lists can be a bit bizarre, and unlike Aurelie, he cannot plead the excuse that he is not working in his mother tongue.


The philosophy is that UKIP must vote against and speak against everything. What happens when the EU proposes something that will actually command widespread popular support, such as the forced reduction in mobile phone roaming charges? Credit where credit is due from the strongly Eurosceptic former DUP MEP Jim Allister, who said, "It makes a pleasant change to welcome a piece of EU legislation.


The enforced reduction in mobile roaming charges is good for consumers across Europe." However UKIP had to find something negative, such as the fact that the main beneficiaries would be people like MEP’s themsleves who make many international calls on mobile phones. While it is true that the mandate for UKIP’s MEP’s mandate is never to vote in favour of any EU regulation, if there is likely to be strong popular support for individual moves, it is surely better to abstain, or at least keep quiet, and keep the powder dry for the really serious issues.


I have not mentioned the corruption aspects and the ongoing investigations by OLAF – the EU Anti-fraud watchdog - into Ind Dem (including some UKIP MEP’s and staff), but this has done nothing to help the party, and what may come out, paricularly regarding Nigel and David Lott, could be quite embarrassing. However, one must not pre-judge.


Few UKIP MEP’s have availed themselves of the opportunity to used the Brussels staff for serious research. Gerard Batten is an honourable exception, with the excellent How much does the EU cost Britain? Booklets, which are updated each year. Apart from this, only Tom Wise, whose assistant Gary Cartwright produced the fisheries booklet, and Roger Knapman, have this far shown any interest in this important area. For seven MEP’s therefore, an excellent opportunity has gone begging.


Hard though it is to say it. the UKIP team, both MEP’s and staff, convey the image of a bungling bunch of amateurs. There are some honourable exceptions, and I have tried to highlight these. I would strongly refute any suggestion that UKIP’s disaster in Brussels has been because "they knw we don’t like the EU." Yes, it is true that the Parliament’s president shows more leniency to pro-EU MEP’s than to UKIP when their speeches overrun.


This apart, I would say that the disaster has been self-inflicted and would have been avoidable with a better calibre of both MEP’s and staff. Perhaps the best illustration of the disaster UKIP has turned into is the infamous "Chicken Costume" incident in Strasbourg earlier this year. I can vouch for this being Nigel’s idea.

When the three staff members (Gawain Towler, Paul Nuttall and Ralph Atkinson) were escorted from the area near the Hemicycle by the security staff, it led to a very heated but almost surreal press conference, firstly with Gawain (still in his costume minus the chicken head!) and then Nigel, complaining bitterly to the media that the reason we were being treated unfairly in not being allowed to parade around in these outfits was because we opposed the Lisbon Treaty.

What noinsense! No wonder the rest of the European Parliament saw UKIP as a bit of a joke.At least no MEP had dressed up, although only because Gary Cartwright and I had been able to work on the wife of one MEP to persuade her husband not to be a chicken - he had originally volunteered for this ridiculous stunt!


The failure of UKIP Part 6

An unconvincing domestic agenda.



UKIP has always professed to be a fully-fledged political party. It has produced manifestos which range over a number of domestic issues besides withdrawal from the EU and areas with strong EU links, such as immigration. However, right up to and beyond the 2005 General Election, in spite of the manifesto produced for that occasion, UKIP was perceived not only by the public but by many members as essentially a single-issue party.


My experience standing for the party in Lewes at that time was fairly typical – I could articulate the issues relating to the EU pretty well, but put me into a debate where the focus was a domestic issue like education and I was out of my depth. I had read the manifesto, but it really wasn’t much help.


In early 2006, when David Bannerman became chairman, things began to change on this front. He launched the "Five Right Things to do" initiative that took UKIP into new territory such as education, law and order and tax. Yes, as mentioned, we had touched on these and other areas in earlier manifestos, but not in the sort of depth now being proposed.


It is perhaps hard for me to be objective here, as I did much of the donkey work for the education policy. David Lott said that it was "the best policy document that UKIP had ever produced." It put UKIP in touch with education pressure groups such as the excellent "Campaign for Real Education" and in fact led to the retired probation officer and author David Fraser if not joining the party certainly becoming more sympathetic to it – a real first for us. Until now, people had only ever joined UKIP over EU-related issues.


A few months later, John Whittaker’s Flat Tax policy was launched at a fringe meeting during the 2006 Tory Party conference in Bournemouth. This again gave us links and credence with groups like the Taxpayers’ Alliance, who were represented at the launch.


However, these initiatives do not seem to have turned UKIP in the public eye from a single-issue party. It is impossible to verify the rumour that the domestic agenda, based on traditional right-of-centre Conservatism, is really an attempt to push the Tories in that direction rather than to claim the ground for UKIP in its own right. The party, in other words, is simply a Tory pressure group.


This rumour has done the rounds for a couple of years. It is hard to prove, especially as the centre-right agenda is, in fact a good one. The problem is that UKIP hasn’t been able to take ownership of this ground. Its dabbling in domestic politics has not been convincing. Part of the problem is having a leader with no ability to speak convincingly and informedly on domestic issues.

He has little interest in the minutiae of domestic policy. Unfortunately, delegating this job to Bannerman has led to a complete muddle, with no subsequent policy launch having the profile of the Flat Tax announcement.

Bannerman’s competence is questionable.

His chairmanship of the Bow Group is one of few features about his life not in dispute. How someone with this supposed breadth of policy experience, particularly in the field of transport can propose electrifying a line which was closed 39 years ago beats me! I can vouch for the fact that this proposal was included in the first draft of the UKIP transport policy document.


These policy initiatives have failed to change either the public perception of UKIP nor the thinking of some party members. Two years on from my struggles in Lewes, I was seconded to help out with the Sedgefield by-election, and for all my enthusiasm to ensure our candidate was well briefed on domestic policies, he just kept going back to the EU all the time.


If UKIP still exists in 2010 and puts up candidates for the General Election, it will be just the same. If the candidates are not comfortable with a broader agenda, how can the electorate be convinced that UKIP is more than just a single-issue party? My sad conclusion is that it is too late for the party ever to make the breakthrough into domestic politics.


The failure of UKIP Part 7

Professionalisng the Party?



The second catchphrase in early 2006 alongside "Five Right Things to do" was "Professionalisng the Party." I came out to Brussels quite humbled at the thought of being part of this process, seeing as I was a newcomer to political research. Three years on, I cannot seriously believe that Nigel ever had any intention of making UKIP a professional party.


We need to go back to Brussels to see how shallow of the talk of "professionalism" is. Nigel’s office assistant out there is Steve (or Andrew) Reed – an individual whom I bear no personal grudge towards, but whose competence is highly dubious, to say the least.


Steve is a conspiracy theorist of the most eccentric type. He also writes the most grotesque English and has a serious drink problem. The net result is this letter, sent out from Nigel’s office in response to correspondence from a member of the public about the situation in Zimbabwe two years ago:-


Zimbabwe is certainly a country under siege from the "international community", whose neo-colonial policies in Africa are thinly disguised as "humanitarian intervention" in conflicts, which it may well have instigated, just as they were in Yugoslavia, Iraq and Afghanistan.


So embarrassing was this letter, which also stated that the EU was worse than Zimbabwe, that extracts from it appeared in the Independent newspaper, and was the reason why a hastily-cobbled together "UKIP Statement on Zimbabwe" suddenly appeared on the party’s website. Yet Steve lived to fight another day and to produce this response to a letter which simply asked the MEP’s to support a written declaration on the setting-up of a Europe-wide register of missing children, following the McCanns’ visit to the European Parliament:-.


European coöperation, furthermore, is rather hindered, than helped, by the centralised bureaucracies of the EU, which, by abolishing national frontiers, have made EU-territory a playground for all types of crime, and which, in general, are rather intent on extending their powers than on governing wisely and well. This is only to be expected of an organisation, which lacks all democratic accountability…Indeed, the only way the huge, multilingual territories of the EU can be governed is by means of a repressive police-state, where every identity, asset and movement is monitored.



Steve’s briefing documents for the MEP’s display a similar lack of professionalsim. Instead of stickingto a simple summary of proposed legislation, he likes to have a rant about the EU. That’s not the job of an assistant. Gerard Batten has expressed extreme frustarion over this, but Steve remains in the Farage assistant office!


Gawain Towler’s incompetence has laready been mentioned. He has a background in the press, and appears to be widely connected but the quality of his work leaves much to be deisred.


Turning to the UK, the bigggest failing has been the total lack of any program to train party activists. UKIP contains many enthusiastic and committed members who have never been involved in politics before. They have joined because they have read or heard something that has convinced them that Britain should leave the EU.


Now while there are good sound reasons for supporting Britain’s withdrawal, there are also all manner of crackpot conspiracy theories doing the rounds, and some party members have regurgitated these in all innocence, believing that anyone saying bad things about the EU must be telling the truth. A professional party should have been providing education at all levels to ensure that party members are gven the tools to separate fact from fiction. The total failure to do this has contributed to the image problem the party faces – Cameron’s comments about "fruitcakes and loonies" has sometimes been closer to the mark than we would like.


The result of this lack of professionalsim is that the party has failed to advance among a key sector of the population. A good few people, possibly some 1/3 of the voting population, have a visceral dislike of the EU and have been easily won over to a withdrawalist position. They may not necessarily be UKIP voters, but they would agree with the overall stance of the party. There are also another significant group, my estimate being a further 1/3 of all voters, who have misgivings about the EU, but are not yet in the withdrawalist camp.


Maybe they have been conned by the propaganda of the three established parties, or perhaps they are still weighing up the arguments. As a generality, these will be serious thinkers. Such people are not going to be convinced by conspiracy theory claptrap or gimmicky, silly cartoons. Focus groups have painted a picture of UKIP as a negative party, and I would venture that some who voiced this opinion include representatives of this "middle third" that UKIP should be addressing. It will require a positive approach to win these people over, which UKIP has this far failed to make. Sadly, UKIP’s failure to advance among this important section of the electorate has set back the cause of independence by several years.


NEC problems and other structural failings.


The NEC is meant to represent the membership. It has been reduced to rubber-stamping Nigel’s decisions. Whether those on the NEC have been fairly voted into office is another matter – Lisa Duffy, a fairly unknown figure until her elevation to the NEC, apparently received more votes in the 2008 NEC election than Nigel received in the party leadership election two years ago! Naturally, she has taken the Farage line.


Since 2004, the story of the NEC is a procession of well-intentioned members either resigning or being forced out. It is claimed that some NEC members disagree in private with some of the things that Nigel does. All well and good, but they seem to vote with him, and have failed to support Delroy Young, Dr David Abbott and Dr Eric Edmond who have had the bravery to express their misgivings openly.


Another serious structural failing is the inability of the party to remove the leader. In the days of Kilroy’s membership, the rules were tightened up in this area. The net result is that any initiative to remove Nigel has fallen foul of the sheer logistics required to call an egm.


At the core of the party is a culture of cronyism and secrecy. The biggest challenge to date has come over the selection of candidates for the 2009 European Parliamentary elections. The South West wanted the Electoral Commission to handle the selection from start to finish, but this was rejected. The result has been a series of unanswered questions and threatened court action – especially in the Eastern Region whereby Robin Page and John West never appeared on the list and the Farage favourite Bannerman ended up in pole position.

The removal of Gregg Beaman from the No. 1 spot in the North West was also shrouded in controversy. Marta Andreasen’s candidacy is highly controversial, as only under EU laws is a citizen of another country eligible to stand. One candidate in the South East region sent a delegate to the count, who saw a good number of ballot papers with votes for Farage and Andreasen only.


In a straw poll of my local branch committee, not one person said they had voted in this way. It all looks very suspicious, and the official response to these gripes of, "Well, be thankful you’re not a Tory. Their existing MEP’s automatically get the top slots" is just not acceptable. It epitomises the fact that the membership have very little power in the party. The Political Committee is appointed, not chosen. Our current chairman was appointed without the NEC being previously consulted. The control of all the official media outlets, including the Independence newsletter, means that real debate is not possible.


When the Lechlade Group think-tank was set up, Nigel told the then party General Secretary Geoffrey Kingscott that his first task was to get it closed down. He was initially no more supportive of the widely reported "Parish Poll" campaign, that was set up by an ordinary UKIP member in Dorset.


Thanks to the innocence of many party members noted above, UKIP - the party that professes to believe in "bottoms-up" democracy and whose members sing the praises of Switzerland’s political system – has become the most top-down party in British politics. Not satified with the level of control he has achieved, Farage wants to bring in a rule change that will facilitate still further the purging of dissidents, yet it will be sold to the membership as a good thing, or else couched in such obscure language that most of them won’t understand the nuances of the wording. Sadly, the art of spin is practised to as a great a degree by the leadership on the membership as by New Labour on the British Public. The sad thing is that a good few of the membership are not aware of it even now.


Financial problems


The last subject to be considered is the timebomb of financial scandal ticking away. Some pretty damning data about the Ashford Call Centre has been in the Public domain for a number of years. Activists have pressed for answers and have been fobbed off time after time.


The Alan Bown Donation problem is another potential pitfall. If the appeal by the Electoral Commission against the initial judgement in UKIP’s favour is successful, Mr Bown could shell out an equivalent sum to the amount confiscated to keep the party afloat, but it is not going to help the party’s standing.


Even small issues suggest that there is something fishy in how money is handled. Why can members not renew their membership by Direct Debit? So simple, so what is the problem?


Another odd issue is how UKIP seems to find so much money for big by-elections, especially if Nigel or one of his close associates is the candidate. Money seemed no object in Bromley, 2006 or Sedgefield 2007. What is notable here is how expensive each UKIP vote seems to be. With the different parties’ expenses and votes available on various websites, analysis of UKIP’s performance against other small parties, notably comparing UKIP with the BNP in the Henley by-election, shows that they gain fair more votes per £100 spent than UKIP. UKIP spent £17.056 and received 843 votes. The BNP spent £4,744.06, less that 1/3 of UKIP’s budget, but polled 1,243 votes – over 40% more than UKIP.


Lack of confidence in the integrity of the party’s finances will have the obvious knock-on effect in reduced donations, both from rich party members and from sympathetic organisations. Nigel is a past-master at drumming up enthusiasm among ordinary party members. No doubt, many of the genuine older members unaware of the issues discussed here will send in their £10’s and £20’s to help the party fight the elections next June, but it would be a matter of great surprise if the amount raised, especially in the South East, comes anywhere near the figure for 2004.


The end of the road


Sleaze, incompetence, poor political judgement, purges of dissidents, a "loony" image, allegations of vote rigging and financial problems – not a healthy situation for a small political party stuck in the doldrums. The few months between now and June 2009 are highly likely to see the publication of a few scandals involving Farage. His venomous attitude has created many enemies, and those enemies are unlikely to stay silent. Even if the rants of Greg Lance-Watkins cannot all be taken seriously, if only 10% of his allegations are true, that could pose the party serious problems in the run-up to what should have been an even greater triumph than June 2004.


It really is now too much to expect the party to be turned round. Even removing Farage as leader will not solve it. His cronies hold all the positions of power, and there isn’t the time to winkle them all out. Sadly, for all the undoubted good UKIP has achieved, it is time for it to be dismembered. The wound is too deep. The poison has spread too widely. In 2004, UKIP had a great chance to advance the argument for British withdrawal from the EU. With the right approach, the argument could have been won irrevocably by now. Independence is so noble an objective, and there is so much to support this assertion.


So UKIP has had its chance and blown it. We are left with only one option - to start again, learning from UKIP’s successes but. more importantly, its failures.



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What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

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