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Saturday, 3 October 2009

#635* - The Pan EU POLITICAL PARTY COULD ERRADICATE EUkip!

#635* - The Pan EU POLITICAL PARTY COULD ERRADICATE EUkip!

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MEA CULPA
*******A correction and apology was made at the request of someone quoted.

The correction was made at C16:00hrs. 04-Oct-2009, immediately the request was received.

My apologies to the author of the quote for my error, there was no intent to seem libellous.

This is only the second correction of an error of fact this blog has EVER HAD TO MAKE at the request of an individual.

We are happy to accept the correction and apologise for accidentally misleading our many readers in EUkip, UKIP and particularly the MSM; we try at all times to provide accurate upto date information for our many readers (I note well over 50,000 so far).

There has NEVER BEEN nor will there ever be a deliberate publication of an inaccuracy, nor a deliberate attempt to mislead on this blog and where a libel may seem to have occurred it will be corrected as soon as the complaint is substantiated.
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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!




The Pan EU POLITICAL PARTY CONCEPT with EU BRIBES & FARAGE'S SELF SERVING LACK OF OQ COULD ERRADICATE EUkip!!

Hi,

a rather lengthy expose I regret but why would you not want the full provenance?

You will be aware as a regular reader of this blog that every item I publish is not only checked for accuracy but also where I am able I publish the full sourcing. NEVER have I been asked to alter or correct a consequential error nor have I ever wittingly made an error. The aim is to clean up EUkip and doing that with lies, dishonesty and distortion would be to act in as vile a manner as their leadership and the Faragista Fan Club.

The aim is to clean up the party so many of us have put such effort into promoting and serving without monetary reward or personal gain - WE want the party cleaned up to make it electable so that it can take on the role of getting Britain out of the EU, more posturing pretend politicians we need like a hole in the head what people looked to UKIP for was principle, morality and selfless efforts across Britain to get our Country back.

Not people who make promises and then betray their followers:
"We are the only people who are intending, annually, to publish so that the public can inspect them, our expense accounts, our allowance accounts, and the excess that we get – the excess that we are forced to take – particularly on travelling allowances."

This was the statement made by EUkip's leader who aims to continue as leader to suit himself using Lord Pearson as his 'patsy' behind whom to shelter.

Farage made this PROMISE in 1999 when first he was an MEP - he has repeated the promise on numerous subsequent occassions - yet this is the 'cheeky chappie' who glibly conceded he had trousered in excess of £2,000,000 of tax payers money - that of course does not take into consideration the £1/4M seemingly trousered, having obtained it from the tax payers for a petition, nor the £211K that was unaccounted under the heading of Miscellaneous expenses, 85% plus of the income of Ashford, various lotteries that were never lawfully registered,

Ten years on from Nigel Farage's promise there is no clarity, no transparency, no openness, no published details - I regret we are left with no alternative to state as a proven fact EUkip's leader is an outright liar who has betrayed the electorate, his party and his supporters.

That none of this reflects in the accounts sadly one must reach the conclusion that EUkip's are fraudulent and an obfuscation of the truth based on the evidence lead.


Right: To return to the issue at hand may
I suggest you read the forerunner article BEFORE you go any further CLICK HERE

Now may I suggest you note that within 3 hours of the letter you have just read materialising on Butcher's squalid little Forum, placed there by someone who obviously doesn't read my blog but without the basic integrity to give the URL of the source of his document - Farage has clearly paniced and had a member of staff TRY to rebuff the letter I published.

They have even stooped to the level of pretending the blog I posted is a fake by an agent provocateur - then some naiive clown added the spin that this was just old obsolete information known to everyone - YEAH so that is why Farage rushed around to find someone literate on his staff to write and publish a spin to try to stop the story!

You have my word that the letter I posted WAS signed and sourced and my choice was to redact the signature once I had verified it.

There are enough weasle words from EUkip to open a shop and and supply every football referee in Mexico as with this:

This is old, old news.From the Nice Treaty. Passed in 2001, came into effect
2003.There are already pan-European parties under the meaning given here. Labour
is part of one and fought the Euros on (at least in part) a unified
manifesto.You'll note that UKIP did not? Membership of such a pan European party
is not necessary to be part of a group in the Parliament. As, indeed, UKIP is
not a member of a pan-European party but is part of a group in the
Parliament.Non-story, someone scaring it all up.
But then again the author is bought and paid for.
My appologies to the author who has asked me to make it clear he is no longer in the employ of EUkip. So this comment was not so much spin but the author lacked up to date information, not being on the payroll any more.
Although his comment is broadly accurate just as my comment about him was a little dated and thus inaccurate so also is his since his comment, if it is not spin, makes no allowance for the FACT that EUkip leadership have been discussing forming a pan EU Political Party.


I'm surprised Death Rowe hasn't been wheeled in and dusted off but perhaps she is just too Septic - she was for the meeeja!

Here is Farage's implausible spin:

From: Andrew S Reed on behalf of Nigel Farage's office:

Dear Mr ***CUT by G.L-W.***

- the proposal - to set up a "pan-EU 'eurosceptic' party" - is merely a ploy (like having a "Group" in the EU-assembly) for channelling EU-funds into the anti-EU movement.

UKIP, and similar parties in other EU-countries, could all benefit greatly from these funds and from the added support they could then provide to each other, in the grim struggle to unseat their ruling pro-EU élites and to free their countries from the death-grip of the EU.

Our enemies will deplore it, of course, and pretend that it is a sell-out, just as they did over our forming a "Group" in the assembly.

Indeed, nothing upset our opponents so much, last August, as the realisation that UKIP would again be the dominant partner in a recognised "Group" in their precious "parliament", and that Nigel would, again, have all the procedural privileges and prestige of a "Group-President" - speaking in the chamber, proposing motions, disposing of significant funding, being consulted on "parliamentary" matters and being invited to various strategic occasions, as of right - and would thus continue to be a formidable figure in Brussels, the UK and throughout the EU, for years to come.

How they hoped - when the Tories formed the insipid "Reformists' Group" - that it would soak up anyone who might have formed a "Group" with UKIP - how they hoped that UKIP's members, including the frightful Nigel Farage, could all be buried in obscurity with the rag-tag of non-entities who haunt the benches of the "non-attached"! - and how disappointed they were, when these things did not happen!

Now they're at it again - they and their agents and anyone they can dupe - trying to prevent UKIP extending its powers further, and trying to undermine UKIP among its membership at home. It won't work, but they are professionals, and they have to try. Besides, if they can distract us, with some internal controversy, from the business of fighting them, even for a few days or weeks, they will consider their effort to have been worthwhile. After all, they've been doing this kind of thing to us, for many years, and they're still doing it, so they must be reasonably satisfied with the results.

As for being "crucified" in the press - for forming a "pan-EU Party" - there would be no angle, on this, which the media could use to damage us - so they probably won't even mention it! If they did, they'd have to give us publicity, while admitting that we're not "Little Englanders", or xenophobes.

They would even have to hint at the kind of post-EU, voluntary alliance of free, democratic, European nations, which the formation of this Party foreshadows; because it could be the positive, offensive counterpart, to the negative, defensive denial-of-the-EU, which has been our only weapon, in international affairs, until now.

In brief: UKIP will not be dissolved, or inhibited by participating, in "a pan-EU alliance of eurosceptic political parties". Rather, we shall extend the "Group" to include numerous sister-parties, in many EU-countries, and thereby send out the anti-EU message more loudly and clearly than ever.

Yours sincerely

Andrew S. Reed

This is clearly self serving distortion of the facts - well after all Steve is paid to do as he is told and he has made quite a good fist of spinning this pack of lies.

How was Steve to know that I had further documents clarifying the fact that The EU is bribing people to form Pan EU Political Parties Groups as we have mentioned in some detail on this blog.

You will also notice from all EU web sites that MEPs are not reffered to either by region or even by Country as per their National Party but by their pan EU Party. EUkip MEPs in the EU's pretend parliament where they waste an immense amount of utterly unproductive and irrelevant time are NEVER listed as EUkip but at the moment as EFD (their pan EU Party)

Howmany will remain in the EFD shortly is a different matter - especially since having colluded with some of the most vile EUropean politics since WWII Farage learned something of an object lesson when he was associated with UKIP and it was publicly pronounced that he was the leader of a racist. xenophobic, homophobic extremists - which of course is true and clearly he was unable to refute it in Ireland!

Having read Steve's effort to obfusscate the issue of Pan EU Political Parties Groups and obviously having seen through it AND having realised that this letter WAS on EUkip's incest Forum where members congratulate eachother but fear the outside world - it is an amusing read if you have an hour to waste and it is fairly easy to get a membership number and password.

Here are Four Pages of internal documentation regarding EUkip MEPs involvement in setting up a pan EU Political Party Group with The Lega Nord (who may well use this new Party as a bargaining chip to enhance their position in Berlesconni's Government in Italy in exchange for dumpung Farage!

If you can't read the scanned pages at the size below all you have to do is double click the page - if you don't read this Blog you might get someone with integrity to copy the documents onto other forums with at least the integrity to source the documents back to here giving the URL.

EFD Pan EU Political Party Group Page 01:


EFD Pan EU Political Party Group Page 02:



EFD Pan EU Political Party Group Page 03:


EFD Pan EU Political Party Group Page 04:


Is this what Lega Nord's Snr. Bossi really thinks ;-)


Here is an interesting comment from an EU employee and very much an insider:

UKIP MEPs have been inadvertently funding a pan-European
party, the EU Democrats (EUD) for quite some time.

This is Jens Peter
Bonde's (failed) brainchild, and Ind Dem contracts, funded by UKIP MEPs, and
which should have gone to UKIP minded staff, were given to EUD officials. The
EUD was mildly sceptic, but decidedly pro-EU.

Farage knew about this,
but Bonde always had a hold on him, and he was helpless. Its why he is trying
now to prevent Bonde getting a toehold in EFD.

A number of UKIP MEPs
knew axactly what was going on, but they lacked the guts to stand up to
Farage.


YOU now have a fair amount of facts to go on so you decide - I believe EUkip is teetering on the edge of flying to bits.

Tonight's letter may well be fairly decisive and then the outcome of Tuesday's meeting and which way the ball bounces may turn over a new page in EUkip's future and give SOME hope to EUroRealists, if they can avoid childish delusions of politics and parties and concentrate on the concept of leaving the EU to be in a position to make policies on every issue democratically at Westminster for the peoples of Britain with a huge reduction in the size of Governance and NO manifesto dellusions.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

2 comments:

Tim Worstall said...

"But then again the author is bought and paid for."

Greg, that's libellous.

Please change it.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

Thank you for bringing this fact to my attention - please be aware that I had no intention to mislead and accept your word that you are no longer 'bought and paid for' as an employee of EUkip or the EU.

I fully accept that your misleading statement as quoted was made in your own right, presumably not being upto date on the internal machinations of EUkip.

My apologies if publishing your statement with my comment caused you any embarrassment.

Regards,
Greg

Greg Lance-Watkins,
8 Middle Street,
Chepstow,
NP16 5ET
Monmouthshire.

01291 - 62 65 62

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