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Thursday 17 September 2009

#626* - UPDATE ON: #616* - A NEW DAWN FOR UKIP IN SWINDON

#626* - UPDATE ON: #616* - A NEW DAWN FOR UKIP IN SWINDON

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

UPDATE ON: #616* - A NEW DAWN FOR UKIP IN SWINDON

Hi,

The BFM has done little to help himself since he realised that he had been duped - he was not man enough to apologise for his dishonourable behaviour but set out to justify his vile and dishonourable behaviour on Butcher's forum.

Astonishingly despite the fact that he was banned after a long period of tollerance of his cowardly and unpleasant behaviour when he went a step too far and once again lied.

Here is the point at which one of the Butcher Forum's finally reached the point where a 6 month ban was the only answer:
Originally Posted by C_steam
Bob - you are a liar. I have proven that before, as you know. You now continue to make false accusation and lies.I seek to 'protect' no-one. I do seek to highlight those who are despicable liars and look for proof of where such exist.From a naive little chairman, you have mutated into a dishonourable liar who is incapable of apologising or admitting their error where required.All you had to do was withdraw and apologise, yet you refuse to do so and claim the high moral ground, and, laughably, try to explain it all away by falsely claiming you are involved with some plot to expose 'Junius'.You are utterly dishonourable and a reprehensible individual. And you are banned. 6 months, but don't bother to come back.Bye Bye.

Despite The BFM's cowardly and dishonest personalised in which he had not only repeated a lie he KNEW to be a lie but refused to apologise for his blatant and cowardly dishonesty and obviously could provide no supporting evidence of his lies.

Interestingly I was banned for LIFE on the instruction of Paul Nuttall who had issued a pack of lies as Nigel Farage's unelected puppet chairman. My ban was for refusing to compromise the truth by withdrawing a statement of fact to comply with the dishonest instructions of the anti UKIP claque in support of the corrupt leadership. I had stated that Regional Organiser the shaven headed bully, liar and fixer pal of Paul Nuttall's had been reported to the police and was under investigation for assault - 100% true and proven.

The BFMstill too cowardly and dishonest seeks, having cut and run from EUkip publishing his resignation and seeking to justify his behaviour in the Swindon Advertiser.

On the Forum The BFM lies again saying:
'.... you know very well the reason used was that I lied, where as in reality I refused to disclose the source of my information and would not retarct it'.

NO IN REALITY Bob Feel Martinis LIED - this is undeniable, however he may wish to write his spin they are no more than further lies compounding the proof of his proven dishonesty.

This is clearly a lie as he has no proof and his original claim that I was a bankrupt is and was at any time a lie. Now he accuses the Moderators of acting dishonestly in banning him!

Astonishingly, having quit EUkip, the BFM has been invited back onto the forum and is already telling lies top cover for his earlier dishonesty. It will be interesting to see if Butcher has the integrity to remove this serial liar for good, or will he concede dishonesty is acceptable as long as it attacks UKIP supporters like Petrina Holdsworth, Niall Warry, Geoffrey Collier, John West, myself and others who have tried consistently to clean up EUkip and return control to the decent patriotic members of UKIP in a state fit for election on merit.

Let us face the irrefutable fact that UKIP is better off without The BFM and I am astonished at HIS CLAIM that Nikki Sinclaire has begged him to reconsider his resignation - I incline, subject to confirmation, that this too is a lie as I can not believe that Nikki is quite that stupid or would the anti UKIP claque be in the ascendency IF she was to become leader? IF the claim is true it can only be damaging for her election bid to have it known she is that stupid and endorses dishonesty!

Let us face the fact that Robert Feel Martinis the publican at The Carpenter's Arms, South Marston, Swindon is a bully, an oaf, a political liability, a bully and a cowardly serial liar. He is unfit for any position in politics and unfit as a candidate for ANY party.


#616* - A NEW DAWN FOR UKIP IN SWINDON !

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

A NEW DAWN FOR UKIP IN SWINDON AS THE EUkip's DISHONEST & CORRUPT CHAIRMAN QUITS!

Hi,

Minded that in the last few days EUkip has lost its leader and its treasurer, and the respect of many.

Also minded that EUkip have been putting out more spin than a laundromat with lies, fantasies, 1/2 truths and fabrications from such as the protagonists Andreasen and Farage whilst poodles like Denny and Oxley were dispatched hither and yon to yap, others compounded compounded the disaray with the stories supplied by Andreasen first to The Times and then Accountancy Age.

Only topped by the claimed salaried actions of NuttAll!

Now I note that for a brief period it seems that NuttAll was deposed as chairman!

His successor seems not to have lasted long either ;-)

Feal-Martinez stands down as UKIP chairman

10th September 2009

By James Wallin »


HEALTH problems and concerns over political direction have led the leader of Swindon’s UK Independence Party to stand down.

Robert Feal-Martinez has resigned as chairman of the Swindon UKIP group and as prospective parliamentary candidate for South Swindon.

Local Conservatives have admitted they would welcome discussions with Mr Feal-Martinez if he decided to change parties.

The landlord of South Marston pub, the Carpenters Arms, had an operation on his eye last year and has also recently been diagnosed as having diabetes.

He said his resignation had sparked feelings both of relief and sadness.

“I am disappointed to have to step down but with my health problems I had to make a decision on where my energies should be best directed,” he said.

“I have to put my business first, especially in this difficult time for the economy.”

Mr Feal-Martinez admitted he disagreed with certain decisions by UKIP nationally.

He said: “The party is still committed to leaving Europe but there seems to be an opinion that if we could do a deal to achieve that then fine.

“Essentially if someone like Justin Tomlinson (Tory candidate for Swindon North) or Robert Buckland (Tory candidate for Swindon South) supported an ‘out’ vote we would not stand in their way.

“I do not agree that our own members should be sidelined in that way.”

Coun Justin Tomlinson said Mr Feal-Martinez’s resignation would be a huge blow to UKIP and that he would be a welcome addition to the Conservative Party.

He said: “Bob is someone I have worked with over a number of years and, while I don’t agree with him 100 per cent of the time, I think he has much to offer.”

South Swindon MP Anne Snelgrove said: “This just goes to show that UKIP is in real trouble in Swindon and I’m not surprised that Robert has found it necessary to stand down.

“I wish him well in recovering from his health problems and I’m sure he will continue to be a big presence in Swindon, particularly in the blogosphere.”

Mr Feal-Martinez confirmed that he would continue to comment regularly on the Swindon Advertiser’s website.

He said: “I’m sure I will get some stick on the comments but I have my say and I can handle criticism.”

If you have got a view, then please leave your comment below. However, the Swindon Advertiser would caution all posters to be aware of the terms and conditions of the website which states that users must not post material which is defamatory, offensive, or of an obscene or menacing character.We welcome constructive and informed debate, and we will take action against any poster who abuses these terms. The poster will be liable for any legal claim from a third party.


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COMMENTS:

Greg L-W., Chepstow says...
12:28am Fri 11 Sep 09

Hi,

although The BFM is an unprincipled liar and was thrown off of what was UKIP forum for his dishonesty I would not wish his health on anyone.

Good luck and now that the cause of your sickness has been identified let us hope the treatment works 101%

I totally endorse Bob Feel Martinis' position with EUkip and would also want nothing to do with them.

Let us hope that UKIP can find a principled intelligent and reliable candidate to replace The BFM, a candidate who has sufficient strength to drag UKIP back on track as a resolute opponent of membership of the undemocratic and clearly corrupt central power of the EU.

I note the Labour comment which is, despite those who criticised her, a very true reflection of Labour views and demeanour - a party with an unelected economic illiterate as leader, willing it seems to permit its Ministers to release criminals from prison to secure their seat!

We must also note the similarity of the present cabinet to that which engaged in war crimes based on dishonest representation of WMDs & 45 minute delivery! A cabinet which by duplicity and the dishonest Drowning Street dodgey dossier committing our brave military to cover for their crimes against humanity.

I hope The BFM finds his return to work 'helps' his business!

As one poster states 'he will be missed' and I'm sure the other parties will agree. The BFM's style will be missed, as it has done much to help them politically over the couple of years he has been politically vocifferous.

EUkip having lost its leader, its treasurer and now its local candidate it is clearly an opportunity for UKIP to try to rebuild, with principle, to aim for MEPs elected on their own merit in the next EU elections, and being able to get a few coundillors in place by 'election' at county level in the iterim.

Good luck to The BFM may your health problems be controlled, your business flourish and thanks for the entertainment.

Good luck UKIP who now have an opportunity to overcome the damage done since Farage seized the leadership & EUkip was formed to benefit from membership of the EU. Now without their help let us hope the vile BNP wither and vanish.

Regards,
Greg L-W.



We can but hope that a new leader will do much to continue the clean up such that EUkip becomes but a mere unpleasant smudge on the history of UKIP - if the peoples of Britain are fortunate we can expect UKIP to disassociate itself from many of its present corrupt staff, leadership claque and their supporters. Let us face it they would be largely better off without all but a couple of their present MEPs as they were without exception elected neither on their own merit nor that of EUkip under the inept and damaging leadership of Farage, but on the dustbin vote of those who were in protest at the corruption of the irrelevant Westminster Parliament.

That MEPs and their corruption is staggering by comparisson led people to not care what garbage found its way in - hence the achievement of EUkip and the aid given, particularly by Croucher & Farage in their venal seeking of publicity for themselves by raising The BNP profile such that The BNP by fortune and spin off gained 2 seats!

As a comment in The Swindon rag made clear - had The BFM remained as EUkip's PPC and 'chairman' they would have voted BNP in desparation!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
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