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Thursday 16 April 2009

#424* - David LOTT - How Sad, How Silly!


#424* - David LOTT - How Sad, How Silly!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!


The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

David LOTT - How Sad, How Silly, How False!!

Hi,

It was interesting to see Robin page announce his intention to try to raise the profile of the vagiaries and dishonesty of The EU - I believe his possibilities of election are like UKFirstParty's
- unlikely! However it is to be hoped that his name and his efforts will suffice to ensure that never is someone as dishonest, worthless and without values as the liar David Bannerman able to represent these United Kingdoms; the man is an odious liar who has brought EUroRealism into the gutter where clearly he sees himself.

Perhaps even, there is a possibility that together with others he will raise the profile sufficiently that it will unseat any possibility of the discreditted Maryta Andreasen who gained her position on the list so dishonestly being an Argentinian born Dane living in Spain with a less than savoury track record. Marta Andreasen is NOT British and she represents no values or national patriotism that I or any British Patriot would recognise.

Consider Robin's words from TheMailOnLine:

08 April 2009 3:54 PM

Sorry Dave,

I’ve Given Up – I’m Joining UKFPI’ve tried to be patient and nice but I’ve given up. Dave, the Brylcreem Boy, appears to have become so lightweight that he has drifted off my radar completely. With Gormless being beyond hope; the Lib-Dims being precisely that, and Ukip now appearing to be a party of about five people – possibly six on a good day, I have decided to join the United Kingdom First Party – I think we now have eight members, and rising.
It is quite simple: I want a party that intends to leave the EU.


A party that wants to regain our territorial waters and fishing rights.

A party that wants to shed the absurdities of the CAP.

A party that wants to re-establish control over its own borders.

A party that wants Britain to make its own laws.

A party that wants to restore proper democracy and freedom of speech.

A party that wants to put political correctness where the monkey put the nutshells.

A party that wants to retrain BBC executives to act as window cleaners or traffic wardens.

A party that wants to derail gravy trains and empty troughs.

And a party that wants to put Jacqui Smith in the stocks for a fortnight and burn her ill-gotten gains in front of her a fiver at a time.

Well all that’s for starters.

In addition I have been asked if I would stand with colleagues at the European elections. Again I have said yes – on one condition – that if any of us is elected, instead of travelling over to Brussels and Strasburg – filling wallets and gullets like most MEPs of all parties – if elected we will stay at home most of the time demonstrating how not to claim allowances; demonstrating how not to become fat cats, and doing what UKIP MEPs were once supposed to do, campaign against the system over here, instead of becoming part of the system over there.

If that works – then we will have to see what happens. Britain can of course only leave the undemocratic EU superstate by a vote in the House of Commons. Unfortunately, at the moment issues such as the cost of deep freezers, garden gnomes and barbeques for the second home are much more important than matters of freedom and democracy. So somehow we have got to get men and women of integrity into the House of Commons instead of the present collection of reprobates.

If only we could have a revolution – or even Guy Fawkes! I suppose the lovely Jacqui Smith will now have me arrested for incitement. It seems to have escaped her notice that she has incited the whole country.


To view the original article CLICK HERE

To which many will have read the response of the long departed and proven corrupt and incompetent David Lott who was at one time Chairman of EUkip, held the role of Election Manager and was dedicatedly of the old authoritarian style which Farage is trying to lurch back to:

Posted by: david lott 12 April 2009 at 03:19 PM:

Dear Robin,

I write this from my hospital bed, whilst in pain. My anger, however, at your continued disparagement of UKIP actually overrides such minor physical problems. So perhaps that is helpful!

You see I spent 12 years building UKIP. That is 12 years full time flat out exhausting demanding and thankless work. I drove across the whole country in a converted horsebox filled with leaflets etc. I formed a group here a group there and gradually the party had a presence right across the land. Once that was achieved I ran or helped in countless by-elections as well as general elections and the european elections. My wife, Kathy, helped build the biggest branch in the SE with 300+ members. She too is angry with you.

By 2007 I was exhausted and played out . I had run a European election that gained 12 seats and played a central part in building UKIP to 26000 members. I also ran the 2005 had General election where we fielded just short of 500 candidates. I recite all this to let you know that I know what I am talking about, Much much more than you do Robin with your amateur plan to start a new party UKFP. How on earth do you think the public can possibly support you when you decide to do this so shortly before an election? Surely you can see this is but a gross and deluded self conceit. You simply have not put the work in. Remember the old adage, put nothing in and you get nothing out. What you are planning will not advance the cause one bit. I cannot believe that a sharp chap like you cannot see this.

Did you see Nigel Farage's brilliant speech attacking Gordon Brown a few minutes before Dan Hannan's in the EP? Nigel of course got no publicity because he is the real danger to the established order. The UKIP web site video did get 100,00 hits as of 10 days ago. Not a dead parrot leader wasting his time in the European Parliament I would say, would you?
What hurts me by your constant sniping is that it is simply destructive.

That is so easy to do, unlike that of the the hard dedicated craft of the builder. Of course there is much wrong with UKIP there always has been. The run up to the 2004 European elections was disfigured by just the sort of attacks you are making on the Party and it was so bad that eventually it damaged my health.

That is to be expected in a Party with such high hopes and in many cases unrealistic short term expectations. Instant success is the order of the day for some people but just look how long it took to build the Labour Party. Yes the membership has slipped back - some of this is probably due to bad organisation - but some is due to the dizzy expectations following the 2004 EU elections and then the disappointment at the results of the General election when the Party was broke. In the game of politics it was ever thus.

I was personally disappointed in that I was not elected in 2004 only to find that the guy above me on the list turned out to be a major fraudster and had to be thrown out of the Party. Such knocks are tough but I realised that my own small ambition was nothing compared to the cause for which I fought.

Do please stand back and take a long hard mature look at what you are engaged in. Do you really wish to succour the enemy?

Yours rather sad and angrily
Davis Lott


seeing this earlier thismorning (16th. April) I felt it was unreasonable to permit David Lott so dishonest an effort:

Hi,

David Lott's self serving, self congratulatory little letter leads me to believe his illness may well be of the bowels!

The claim that his experiences garnered campaigning for a few weeks and then repeating his errors for some 12 years had ruined his health must surely be nonsense, as was it not he who held himself up as a miracle of recovery from Prostate Cancer, the cause of which is a matter largely of anno domini and genetic misfortune!

David you will of course be aware of the damage you did to EUroRealism with your VERY personal ambitions. One is tempted to ask if you find Hospitals in France so very much better having crowed to the world in The Telegraph letters column of howmuch better off you were moving to France.

Were your comments in The Telegraph or here any less dishonest than your vile intervention and dishonesty during the corruption of EUkip's last leadership election; an interjection in flagrant abuse of the very rules you would otherwise have claimed to draw up with lies about your salaried EU status as you sought to influence the election - ensuring EUkip were little more than a divided house and usefull idiots in service of the EU.

They even joined the pro EU Ind.Dem.Group campaigning for greater Subsidiarity, working with The EU committees to increase their control over vassal states, and all on your watch, as you fed most amply from the troughs on the gravy train!

I can appreciate your angst, aware that you 'got it wrong', as you are unwell in a hospital bed but there comes a time in every life when it is not unwise to make ammends.

The years of exposing the vagiaries of the EU and its evil concepts by the grass roots of UKIP brought great opportunity to a few but in going native very profitably and demeaning the entire EUroRealist movement as they dressed up as chickens, played with ancient military kit and generally played the fool, when sober enough rendered such competent efforts as they may have made irrelevant and we see the product of your efforts.

A collapse in membership, a destruction of funders, a loss of credibility and the role of recruiting sargeants for the odious BNP as The Faragista Fan Club lurch back into history, turning the party into an authoritarian, centralised, extremist right wing clique based on EU concepts of democracy and Justice with its dishonest Kangaroo Courts and attempts at Show Trials - looking all too similar to The BNP, with their bully boys and shaven headed idiocies amongst their leadership. Their foul language shouting at each other and general abuse of eachother and members on its NEC.

No one has ever denied that Farage is a well practiced speaker, but he has lived down to and exceeded the predictions of his utter incompetence as a leader, right down to surrounding himself with the useless to thus look competent - he has as expected proved catastrophic.

Just look at the funding, membership figures and realistic expectations for June 4th. after which Farage has promised to resign from the party as a failure if the electorate return 10 or less MEPs - thus it would seem clear that a vote for Farage will merely leave the utterly inappropriate and discreditted alien Marta Andreasen in the saddle!

I trust you will recover to enjoy your retirement but do please act with some dignity your self serving, self congratulatory nonsense shows all too clearly that your grasp on reality is no greater than when you were squandering time and money for EUkip - Just what did happen to the 1,000s of corex election boards you forgot in a warehouse? What happened to the £250,000 raised for the petition that you and Nigel never conducted? What of the plenary stages of the election for which you take credit when in fact you were on holiday in Australia!

No doubt the generous income as 'fixer' in the EU aided your sell up in Britain for the benefit of a beneficial comfort zone in France.

I wish you a speedy recovery and a peaceful and QUIET retirement in the hope that you do not find yourself embroilled in the various OLAF enquiries which I am given to understand may have some interest in you.

Let us hope that a clean and fresh approach stepping away from the undeniable dishonesty and corruption of EUkip being made by UKFirstParty and such efforts as Robin Page, Petrina Holdsworth, John Petley, Martin Hasslam, John Pratt and the others who dedicatedly wish to campaign against our vassal state in The EU meanwhile preserving their reputations by disassociation from the lies, bullying, dishonesty, corruption, drunken womanising and idiocy of the Oh So EU EUkip.

David you were yesterday's man and out of touch with reality or ANY concepts of integrity, marketing or ethics and look at just how much help you have been to The sordid BNP.

My regards to your lady wife and may you enjoy your retirement - Good bye.

Good luck to the future Robin and your associates as sadly due to the pernicious behaviour of EUkip's leadership and the out of touch like poor old David I see no future for EUkip. If they do well and get half a dozen MEPs their leader will have clearly failed and has promised to leave and they can squabble on like ferrets in a sack as they have done cheating and lying to be positioned with enhanced opportunities of getting their snouts in the trough by going native in the EU.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
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