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Tuesday 25 August 2009

#601* - EUkip & FACING The GENERAL ELECTION

#601* - EUkip & FACING The GENERAL ELECTION

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!



The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

#601* - EUkip & FACING The GENERAL ELECTION - Opinions, Including Dr. Eric EDMOND, elected by UKIP members to EUkip NEC.


2010 General Election - a Poisoned Challice

I am increasingly coming to the view that winning the 2010 UK General Election will be worse than losing it. The conventional view is that with finances in such a mess taxes will have to rise and public services be cut to bring some sense of fiscal probity to HMG. Without this the UK credit rating may well slip from AAA and we will have to pay a higher interest rate price to sell government debt, gilts. These necessary actions will be horrendously unpopular politically and will lead to a host of sob stories on UK TV with single mothers, the unemployed especially the young and the homeless being portrayed as victims of an uncaring government. This is an unedifying prospect for any government, particularly one with a small or no majority facing another election in 2011/12.

The over riding aim of all politicians however is to be re-elected back on to the gravy train. Margaret Beckett's claims in the DT this morning that "A career in politics leaves MPs out of pocket" is risible and shows how out of touch she is with the electorate. Does she take us for fools? The obvious conflict of interest between a desire to be re-elected and the poisoned challice is easily resolved - be relected as an opposition MP! This needs you to be selected for safe Labour seat and there may be some competition for those even after the expense claim junkies have been weeded out. The nice thing is you will then have Dave's inexperienced A listers to shoot at for a couple of years on a 'result' wicket just like at the Oval. Even Labour's bowling will look good and when Dave is skittled out for a low score, well all options are open!

The elephants in the room, the EU, Islamic birth rates and culture, the white under class living on benefits won't get a mention by the main parties. Why not? Because they are all vote losers stupid. Another sure fire vote loser is Farage's pet project to bring back grammar schools. For every child that gets into grammar school five to ten will not. So its one winner who might vote for you and five or more losers who will vote against you. I believe in selection in education but you have go to be a lot more subtle about how to bring it back than Farage's simplistic approach. The Cabal don't do subtle. They are not clever enough.

So how will UKIP fare in the UK general election? Not very well I fear. The leaders are all nicely tucked up in Brussels so there is no real incentive. There is also no District Councillor base to build on and no UKIP policies targetted at this election despite the valiant efforts of people like Alan Wood in Salisbury to build both these areas up. UKIP's core, get out of the EU policy is not a GE issue and is easy meat for its opponents who can point to the UKIP MEPs like Andreasen who is clearly not a withdrawalist.

Worse for UKIP however is that the BNP may get an MP. They have a local authority base in some areas with a number of councillors on some councils. The UK electoral system rewards this geographical concentration of support. Also the BNP core stop immigration policy will be a big issue in the General Election especially in these areas that people have to meet the effects of immigration day in and day out. They are a transparently British party, based in, and run from, and financed in UK . They don't have an Andreasen/EU flank that opponents can attack them on. They will almost certainly come second in one or two seats and thus be well placed for a further push if there is a quick second election.

All in all I fear UKIP has probably seen its electoral high water mark.


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Hi,

surely UKIP's biggest problem is that they have clearly 'gone native' as EUkip.

Not only do they have the discreditted foreign national Marta Andreasen, who has been serially fired for her failure as a bean counter and even incurred allegations of racism when suspended by the OECD. A pro EU reformist who whored her principles around several parties before she could find one dumb enough or corrupt enough to be taken in by her - including TWO interviews with The Christian Alliance Party where at both of which she was rejected!

Then there is Trevor Colman who colluded in the theft of public money by seeking to cover up the frauds for which Tom Wise is currently facing the courts with Lindsay Jenkins. It does look as if Colman's 'payolla' for his collusion in crime, as an ex cop, was first place on the MEP list with a safish seat!

That EUkip has several MEPs under investigation by the Police, Legal Authorities and OLAF can help little - clearly their MEP (until he stood down) Tom Wise & their researcher being in Court for money laundering can help little.

Then of course the fact that they are likely to be penalised to the tune of around £1/2Million on the guilty verdict of The Westminster Magistrates Courts. There are also seemingly several £M of public money that would appear to have been trousered by EUkip!

A further problem EUkip will have at The GE is that they have allied with the people they see most like them to form a pan EU Political Party Group - thus they are now associated with extremist racists, advocates of xenophobic killings and sexually intollerant to form the EFD!

Perhaps EUkip should consider who actually saved them from wipeout in the EU elections and got 13 such crass MEPs in place:

Most Expensive MPs 2007/8
Member name Total claimed
1 Eric Joyce £187,334
2 Michael Connarty £183,466
3 Alistair Carmichael £176,190
4 Ben Wallace £175,523
5 Mohammad Sarwar £174,882
6 Charles Kennedy £174,232
7 Janet Anderson £173,556
8 David S Borrow £172,706
9 Jim McGovern £171,989
10 Fabian Hamilton £171,824

Greatly helped by such crass dishonesty as that of Hazel Blears, Elliott Morley, Barbara Follett, Alan Duncan, The Kirkhopes and their ilk.

I doubt EUkip's integrity such that they may award them medals at conference for their help, for without them EUkip WOULD NOT have had more than one or two MEPs elected and rightly so based on their track record and achievements with 12 elected MEPs during the preceding 5 years, during which they achieved virtually nothing of value to these United kingdoms, stole public money, abused their positions trashed their party UKIP and dragged the party into the gutter where clearly the leadership were more at home.

One need only read much of their publicity!

EUkip has destroyed UKIP with its dishonesty, lies, cheating and corruption.

They will NOT get an MP elected - a tragedy that UKIP has been so betrayed by its leadership - some of whom have even been 'wangling' for place with UKFirstParty without even resigning from EUkip - no doubt hoping to ride both horses to double their personal chances!

Sadly those left in EUkip have little or no understanding of morality, honesty, duty or ethics.

I have previously asked how David Bannerman, Nikki Sinclair, Gawain Towler etc. feel about having been grouped with the openly sexually intollerant politicians of the Lega Nord and others who believe perverts should be 'hunted, shot at and driven out'.

How do such as William Dartmouth square the circle, regardless of his dishonest and corrupt minder Malcolm Wood, with the view that imigrants in boats should be machine gunned and bombed?

We know, based on her track record, that Marta Andreasen will be happy to prostitute herself to any view and to lie and cheat to keep her snout in the EU troughs on the gravy train.

Then again we have asked whether EUkip's accounts are a fraud or whether Farage is a liar and has been stealing party money - answer came there none!

Do remember that we were assured by the foolish Nattrass that he had donated more to EUkip than he had earned - strange since there is no equivallence in the accounts - was he telling lies or are the accounts totally fraudulent?

Seriousy could any honest Brit. of morality advocate these low lifes should represent us anywhere let alone Westminster - of course not. No patriot would wish for such trash in our Parliament - the ones there now are an obscenity without adding such vile people as EUkip puts forward and fields as its spokesmen!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

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LEAVE THE EU
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