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Thursday, 8 January 2009

#224* - A ROUNDUP MAY WEED OUT EUkip A BIT

#224* - A ROUNDUP MAY WEED OUT EUkip A BIT
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives
the remaining 10%a bad name!

IN DOING A BIT OF A ROUND UP IN EUkip THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT ALL WILL BE KILLED OFF AS WEEDS - NOT A DECENT FLOWER IN SIGHT WORTHY OF PROPOGATION!

Hi,

Now that EUkip has totally betrayed its electorate by doing the sum total of ZERO to get Britain one step nearer leaving the EU, failed to make a single solitary serious contribution to opposing the Lisbon Treaty, which in all but name came into being 9 days ago regardless of Democract and the Irish & Chec failure to ratify it yet.

The New Constitution was voted down by 61 Million French, 16 Million Dutch & then had its name changed though the content remained nmuch the same so that Brain's Government could lie about it and duck a referendum they would clearly have lost - Ireland voted under the new name and 4 Million Irish voted against the Lisbon Treaty.

What did EUkip do? Oh they dressed up as chickens!
Not a single solitary consequential action opposing the newly named Constitution Lisbon Treaty!


Failure to do anything is a long term habit in EUkip - the finances are so clearly utterly discreditted with well over £1 Million seemingly trousered, well unaccounted, now to go with the discreditted accounts EUkip has found and appointed a discreditted and corrupt accountant.

Without any rational thought and seemingly no intelligent consultation Farage's cronies parachuted in Marta Andreasen @ £36K+ pa rather than have a pro bono credible accountant from Britain. The UK Independence Paryty went further EU Native and hired a self seeking and untrustworthy alien rather than a competent British accountant!

Well they do say follow the money and it would seem that is one attribute the present leader has - Most Parties in Britain elect their leader but Farage gained the title through corruption, lies and dishonesty by the gaggle of sychophants who were on the payrole.

Since dishonestly gaining the leadership the party has all but collapsed loosing activists and long term supporters and Farage has had to be reliant on bribery and placemen to stay in office.
High on the list of useless placemen is the Mussollini/BNP look alike who has colluded with Farage (well he had to Farage owns him because no one voted for him!) this little man who has prostituted himself or had no integrity to stary with has lied, bullied and cheated for Farage against the interests of Justice, UKIP or any value that anyone of moral repute would call British.

A revolting little man so out of his depth shouting abuse and threatening to hit people at NEC meetings - so inexperienced and incompetent that he had to call the police to try to restore order at an NEC meeting.


The weak and morally challenged anthony Butcher having failed in UKIP as unwilling to cow tow to Farage but too inept to confront him has now buckled to collude in the dishonesty of EUkip's bullying and dishonesty.

Not only did he for a second time ban me on their instruction but he did so on dishonest grounds. Further he has continually provided a platform for dishonesty and lies, misrepresentation and corruption, when it has suited him.

As a failure in EUkip I expect this wanabe to move on choosing to fail with Declan Ganley next - Ganley has already chosen failure on a number of fronts and has little interest beyond Ireland though much ego to satiate and various ways to capitalise on raising his profile.


It is noted that to comply with EUkip's requests and bullying little Anthony has seen fit to snip perfectly legitimate comment about the hapless and dishonest Gawain Towler - he was all too willing to lie about others to suit his needs yet clamours for bias in his favour now that his wife has published details of his pecadillos on her blog!.

Strangely little Anthony has buckled to censorship - what a surprise! Anthony is clearly gutless and without even the vestigase of understanding when it comes to integrity or morality as he has NEVER set such standards in defence of myself or various others! Why now is Butcher defending this odious and unpleasant man?
The blog of The Towlers said it all for a brief couple of hours but has now been wiped - though the record remains and is in the hands of The Tories and various Journalists.

No doubt Joslin Towler's Views Of Her Husband will be well aired in Court, dragging EUkip's name further into the gutter - and his activities will be featured in future exhibitions of her childish and talentless 'Blue peteresque' playschool daubings.


As is so often in EUkip the vile behaviour of its staff or MEPs is never seen as cause to resign to save the party further ignominy NO rather attack the messengers and threaten them!


I understand from my contacts in the EU offices that the puppet NuttAll in BNPesque style is seeking not only to bully people but now is trying to close down the truth from people like myself, Junius, Niall Warry, Geoffrey Collier, Dr. Eric Edmond, Dr. David Abbott and others for his patron Farage.


Farage - if, since you had to depend on dishonesty, lies and corruption and abuse of UKIP to take control of EUkip and befoul the party when does it become the time when it is better to admit you failed and face the truth rather than escalate the dishonesty?


It is increasingly clear that EUkip is a spent force - utterlly dependent on liars, cheats and the corrupt - where would you expect to meet so odious a group of low lifes and liars as Mick McGough, Andrew Smith, Gerard Button, The Desk, NuttAll, Ma Zucherman, Dippy Denny, Bob Feel Martiniz, Gollom, Reeve, Titford, Malcolm Wood, Derek Clark, The Ox, Up The Duff, George Curtis, Towler etc. etc. - when such a group are gathered in a common interest I regret it clearly can not me an honest common interest.


I no longer believe that the leadership and NEC of EUkip could care less about OUR Country - they clearly care only abouit themselves or they would not act so revoltingly in their own self interests - attacking and seeking to debase honest decent individuals, and trying to kick to death in true Fascist style the messengers. There are aspects of EUkip's leadership and inner sanctum supporters that make Zionism and Hitler, Mussolini and the Bader Meinhoff look decent and sane!


Individuals like the Foul Mouthed Annabelle Fuller, the obsessive and idiotic Bob F-M., the weak and venal Butcher, the liar & cheat McGough, the fraud and liar Bannerman, the ridiculous and duplicitous Mark Croucher, the uinderhand and dishonest Malcolm Wood, the self seeking & weak Trevor Colman, the sychophantic Denny, the farcical Ma Zucherman, the bullying puppet NuttAll, the treacherous Clark & his betrayal, these and others leading EUkip and backing its corruption are no less than evil.
Consider this revolting old man - he rode on the backs of others to gain office based on lies. He promised to stand down on set dates but reneged. He has taken advantage of every 'jolly' going, he has earned more in one year out of EUkip than he earned in 5 when he worked - his accrued EUkip pension way exceeds any salary he ever earned and he has destroyed UKIP in the East Midlands for his personal gain, dragging the party name into the gutter in which he resides.

This sordid little man betrayed those who elected him and in his guilt manoeuvered to oust them such as Geffrey Kingscott, Ian Gilman, Del Young, Tony Elwood, Andy Parsons and he even went so far as to lie and trump up charges in a Kangaroo Court where no thanks to his dishonesty the proceedings against Peter Baker collapsed.

Clark is the odious man who has betrayed Britain to please his master by betrayoing not just UKIP but his electorate and his Country signing up to GREATER subsidiarity to The revolting and undemocratic EU and advocating working WITH the EU to strengthen the control of its committees over Britain and other vassal states.

This revolting man not only lacks the shame to stand down but lacks the integrity such that he seeks to stand again! Having brought UKIP into disrepute he lies and ponstificates as something other than a petty crook!


This pathetic little man continues to drag the reputation of UKIP in the gutter with his lies and fraudulent misrepresentation. - with less than 6 months to go having dishonestly hijacked the top position on the Eastern region list this liar fraud and cheat is only hanging on with lies and duplicity - no doubt promising largesse to those who support him!

What post has been offered to the revolyting old liar McGough such that he is so willing to display his dishonesty and vindictive nature for all to see?

We note yet another re-launch of EUkip Eastern Region's EU campaign is bue at the first there were about a dozen and then at the main launch they had some foul mouthed woman Rowe displaying her lack of talentand ability and competence whilst Peter Reeve found himself reported to the police for common assault! Andrew Smith left early and the meeting was a farce with a salary/staff contingent of about 12 and an audience of members and guests of 28!

Well who would cross a road, let alone a village to listen to Bannerman, Smith, Reeve, Rowe, NuttAll, McGough, Gulleyslime, Curtis or their ilk and everyone has heard Farage's 3 speeches who is interested!

A childish and insecure little man - a measure of the extent to which he holds EUkip, its members and the people he represents in contempt is that he was prepared not only to represent them on the floor of the EU's sham parliament but to have the film posted on You Tube of him trying to deliver a set piece speech drunk!

What a self important selfish fool!


Is it any wonder that EUkip is struggling for funding with not a single backer of repute - its greatest hope being some Z List Celeb to drag it out of the mire and raise its profile.

Desparate to sink the ship if he can't get his own way and get re-elected it looks as if Farage will persuade the reprehensible Gawain Towler to stay on to damage the cause in The South West - already he plans to shut down the offices and set up some sham for away days in London!

It is noted from the self seeking political prostitute who has hawked herself around most parties to try to get her snout back in the EU troughs that £10,000 a week is needed for a London Office - the call was for £20 donation from every member, donations are needed from 12,500 members!!! Some accountant! can someone point out to her that there aren't 12,500 active members and such calls rarely have a high hit rate!

How soon will savings be made shutting down the present head office and will that do anything other than what Farage is unavowedly good at - make enemies?

Is it wise to set out to steal more money having failed to account for huge amounts via The pretend Petition, the £211,000 unaccounted properly through 'other expenses' at Lyminster, the £170,000 that was seemingly trousered in Wales, the 100s of £1,000s that were perloined via Ashford in its various clones then 'son of Ashford' at Ramsgate and now a new scam Call Centre, no doubt with some petty crook creaming off the profit as with Jophn Moran who has proved willing to collect money on one pretext and then squander it on another!

No wonder there are few who will donate - and less who will help because there is always the chance of falling foul of the great man's ego and being deliberately set up by Farage as was the long term UKIP benefactor Martin Hasslam. Perhaps, after hard work and dedication, you might find yourself used as a scapegoat for some dishonest Reichstag Fire moment to try to trump up a case for Draconian changes to the constitution to introduce Fascist and centralised authoritarian EU style powers for the leader to add to the corruption, as with the EU.

Please donate lots to EUkip because they face an awful lot of litigation in the next few months and it would be unfair if they sheltered behind some corrupt scam of Limited liability set up by Ma Zucherman to avoid their liabilities for having befouled and besmirched the reputations of honest decent men and women. I gather Ma Zucherman has not managed to keep himself out of the spotlight of the Courts this week facing them in his own defence!

Not to mention the various croiminal cases that are still outstanding where damages may well prove high. Then there are the various OLAF enquiries such as derek Clark, Jeffrey Titford, Tom Wise, Nigel Farage and possibly others - also the various Police cases when they re-emerge nearer the election as they surely will.

I gather the Judicial Review, which could cost EUkip between £1/2 & 1 Million making it technically bankrupt. Also the assault case against Peter Reeve if it proceeds could prove costsly for EUkip as he was acting in his official capacity.

Then EUkip could well have to pay a great deal in damage limitation in distancing itself from the Towler 'business' which could become very ugly and is now largely likely to be damaging as Farage seem almost to hope it will be - was that why he NEVER did anything to resolve the Tom Wise case which falls due in February (towards the end).

EUkip may also have need of finding compensation money for the likes of David Challic, Sue Palfrey and their ilk if they mishandle their redundancy - as with Malcolm Wood, who is loathed by many for his dishonesty and treachery but is like The Old man of The Sea placed upon Sinbad'sd shoulders since his continued employ was the edict of the revolting, foul mouthed and utterly inept Basil Fawlty from his bungling 1950s hotel that Booth inherited from his Father.

We all saw the measure of that man's duplicity as he attempted to parachute his totally inappropriate neice into EUkip office one presumes as a part of her redundancy package from book keeping in his hotel!
One really has to struggle to think of someone (anyone) one would wish to have as either an employee or a friend amongst EUkip's Leadership, NEC, staff or sychophantic vociferous supporters. No wonder attendance at their meetings these days is so low and their funding so thin.

It is understood that there is a POSSIBILITY that there could be a General Election on the same day as the EU elections - since EUkip's selection process for EU candidates was unsound, dishonest, corrupt and should be run again by an outside agency we note from NEC minutes no effort will be made to make internal elections honest OR trusted!

How many Council Candidates are lined up? There are local elections on the same day!

Do be minded that out of 19,500 elected seats in Britain EUkip currently has about 5 + a few turncoats!
TO LEAVE THE EU

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country.Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

#223* - BUY A TOASTER GET A BANK FREE

#223* - BUY A TOASTER GET A BANK FREE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what givesthe remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip MISSES SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES

INCREASINGLY LOSING GOOD ACTIVISTS
& SUPPORTERS OF CALLIBRE - ONLY TO
SEE THEM REP-LACED WITH LIARS, CHEATS, THE ODIOUS AND CORRUPTION - WHICH IS SO MUCH AN ASPECT OF EUkip's COLLAPSE UNDER FARAGE - REPEATEDLY BROUGHT INTO DISREPUTE AS A PARTY BY ITS LEADERSHIP AND ITS SYCHOPHANTS SEEKING GLORY!

Hi,

so sometimes an article or a comment hits the spot - I did like this spoof ad from an American web site:

Looks like that economic illiterate Gordon Brown is collecting toasters! Then there was the posting by Dr. Eric Edmond on his blog - Eric is a Mathematician, Economist (Practical NOT Theoretical), worked as a Snivil Cervant in Heath's Drowning Street, for a period as a Univercity Lecturer and as a Market Maker in The Bank of England.

I quote his blog often as I find he has that nack of writing complex economics in 'human'.

Tuesday, 6 January 2009

Luxembourg Calls for EU Treasury DT 5/1/09

I read this with some professional satisfaction as it is exactly what I forecast in my last, pre-Xmas blog on 24th Dec 08. I summarise AEP's piece below.

"Germany is coming under mounting pressure to rescue Europe’s weaker states by agreeing to an EU agency with powers to issue bonds for the eurozone as a whole for the first time.

Any such move would amount to the creation of an “EU Treasury” to back up the single currency, in effect compelling Germany to share its elite credit rating with weaker states such as Italy, Greece, Spain and Ireland.

The proposal is certain to cause apoplexy in Berlin where any suggestion that German taxpayers should be made liable in any way for the huge public debts of Europe’s weaker states is a neuralgic subject.

"The stresses in the Euro system are starting to show particularly in the Greek-German bond spread which is now 2.14%. The Greeks and the Italians have many billions of maturing Euro bonds to refinance this year.

Who is going to buy these bonds?

Greece and Italy have 'previous' on bond defaults so it is going to be very difficult. The pressure for an EU Treasury and tax base will grow but as AEP says its the German tax payer who will have to pay and they are not happy bunnies at this prospect.

The bond market is the most powerful force on Earth. As Bill Clinton's first campaign manager James Carville put it:
"I used to think if there was reincarnation, I wanted to come back as the President or the Pope or a .400 baseball hitter. But now I want to come back as the bond market. You can intimidate everyone.

" The EU are on collision course with the bond market and my confident prediction is the market will win. This is a god sent opportunity for UKIP as EU reputations will be trashed in this confrontation. But is EUKIP, current sole proprietor N Farage, up to capitalising on this opportunity?

Well time will tell.

I hope NF can and will exploit this chance to do real damage to the EU.

I read with sadness that Gawain Towler may be in some difficulties re his MEP candidacy. If true, it is disappointing this was not detected earlier in the MEP selection process as it may be potentially damaging to all candidates on the SW list.

The SWCC passed a resolution before the MEP selection process started that the candidates selected by the SW selection sub-committee of Elizabeth Burton, Jeff Mager and David Bendall and non-voting chairman Malcolm Wood should be presented first to the SWCC for approval before being sent to Mr Gill and the NF's national political committee.

This resolution was not accurately reproduced in the final SWCC committee minutes and was not implemented by the selection sub-committee.

The sub-committee's recommendations went straight to Mr Gill bypassing SWCC scrutiny.Whether this would have helped Mr Towler we will never know.

I am portrayed by some as anti UKIP. I am not. I stand for sticking to the rules and upholding democratic decisions. Those who think that they know better put us on the slippery slope that leads to the swamp of endemic sleaze that engulfs the UK's three main political parties.

My views have not changed since I stood for MEP selection and can be found on my web sitewww.ericedmond.com


Posted by Eric Edmond
To see Eric's original article Click Here

It is amusing to note that there is comment made by the Farage Incubus Bob Feal-Martines on Eric's blog - it is hardly surprising that as ever he makes a fool of himself - it seems a star quality of Farage sychophants more esspecially those of little brain from the Pub Trade or Police - two areas in our economy that seem all too often to attract natural born know alls of particularly unpleasant personality and absolutely no political insight.

The sad little old man is just a Mr. Angry and as for the Gawain Towler 'matter' either The B.F-M. knows the facts and allegations or he does not - either way he would be well advised to S.T.F.U. - being ex police he clearly lacks any understanding beyond that of shuffling cones and filling in forms, he lacks even the ability to do that without being offensive and making yet more of a fool of himself. - A true Cop!

for the record


Here are the Comments from Eric's Blog:

4 comments:

Bob Feal-martinez said...
Your comments of course Eric have nothing to do with the fact you will inherit the number 3 spot if Gawain drop out.
07 January 2009 07:36

Eric Edmond said...
Your statement is incorrect. Check you facts with Nigel Farage.
07 January 2009 13:24

Junius said...
I see that Farage's sock puppet is at it again. Farage must be getting desperate if he has to resort to using people like Bob FM to fight his battles!
07 January 2009 13:38

Greg L-W. said...
Hi,Why am I not surprised that Farage's incubus The B.F-M. has felt the need to make a fool of himself as ever, with an inaccurate statement designed to denigrate and damage people he does not know and clearly does not understand!Farage's dishonest and corrupt cabal have already shown The B.F-M. to be wrong.Further IF The B.F-M. has a clue about the allegations regarding Gawain Towler or if he knows nothing (which would be more in keeping with his track record)may I suggest - S.T.F.U.Many will note The B.F-M's frequest boast that he has phoned his contacts to get the official spin - he overlooks the fact that many of us are contacted WITH the facts but one would hardly expect anyone to tell a garrulous and particularly dim ex cop now running a pub anything confidential!Note the behaviour of The B.F-M. which is so similar and untrustworthy to Mark Croucher and without integrity or anything of value to contribute - just imature and not very bright - Just another self seeking self importNT PUPPET!I'd ignore him if I were you Eric The B.F-M. repeatedly proves to be a foopl and unlike you has no future just a past - at least you were elected by the party, he just acts in self interest as a puppet.Regards,Greg L-W.
07 January 2009 17:11

TO LEAVE THE EU

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British Politician of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country.

Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

Tuesday, 6 January 2009

#222* - EUkip MAY FIND ITSELF TARRED BY ASSOCIATION!

#222* - EUkip MAY FIND ITSELF TARRED BY ASSOCIATION!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership& NEC is what givesthe remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip HAS A REPUTATION FOR CRASS APPOINTMENTS & STAGGERING INCOMPETENCE IN CHARACTER ASSESMENT!

Hi,

I had hoped that this tragic story could be quietly resolved in privacy, but clearly it has come into the public domain:

See JUNIUS' BLOG which by allusion places the matter in the public eye:

Monday, 5 January 2009

Gawain Towler to resign as UKIP MEP candidate?
Gawain Towler may be forced to resign as an MEP candidate in the South West. Certain allegations have been made against him that may make his current position in UKIP untenable.

I regret that I am reliably informed that there is a sad story behind this brief comment and much VERY confussed anguish.

I hope that Gawain will have the wisdom to step down and do the honourable thing: Resigning from EUkip to avoid besmirching EUkip with his complex problems.

I hope for the sake of the family that the matter will not become a matter in the media and I decline the opportunity to provide vicarious involvement - there is little doubt that EUkip has greater problems than those of a single ambitious staff member's personal problems.

In that EUkip would seem to believe in denial of any fundamental democratic principles in the discussion of opinions, and is all too happy to attest to false evidence and outright dishonesty to achieve its aims, at the expense of its members, our Country and our National values of fair play and justice - to remove members, rig internal elections, lie about its opponents and alter its Constitution duplicitously; to serve the personal needs and ambitions of its leadership and NEC - it will be interesting to see how it deals with a matter of this nature and gravity.

Gawain Towler has NEVER impressed me and his willingness to lie and seek to besmirch people's character in a copwardly manner behind their backs has shown him to be beneath contempt in the past. The present situation does not in any way surprise me. I trust his wife will be able to resolve her problems for the sake of the family in the long term.

I believe that based upon EUkip's track record of competence, integrity and morality of behaviour we can count on EUkip making a complete and utter 'bugger's muddle' of handling this matter.

Light blue touch paper and stand well back!!

TO LEAVE THE EU

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British Politician of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country.Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

Monday, 5 January 2009

#221* - EUkip - IS IT JUST ANOTHER SCAM?

#221* - EUkip - IS IT JUST ANOTHER SCAM?
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!
The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership& NEC is what givesthe remaining 10% a bad name!
EUkip LEADERSHIP HAS PROVED IT CAN NOT BE TRUSTED - EVEN WITH MONEY!
Hi,

we note with interest that EUkip leadership and NEC are totally untrustworthy - particularly over matters of money and seem to a man to be without integrity.
Andrew Smith as Treasurer was so worried he would be exposed for his total failure as a competent accountant that having summarily appointed his corrupt and dishonest little succubus - the incubus of the party Michael McGough, ever ready to lie and distort the truth, a natural liar and cheat willing to corrupt elections with lies for personal gain; he lies about those who support UKIP and cleaning up the party to try to make it electable.

Andrew Smith, aided one assumes by the odious McGough, would seem to have been so worried about exposure for his incompetence and dishonesty that he elluded meeting with UKIP's business manager and after 3 broken meetings engineered the departure of Niall Warry to continue in his corruption of the accounts, which many will recall failed even the few simple questions asked by the better qualified NEC member Richard Suchorzewski ( who subsequently the dishonest McGough has deliberately tried to denigrate ever since!) - at which Andrew Smith fled leaving the accounts in total disaray in breech of his professional undertaking as treasurer - subsequently, together with Nigel Farage, the lies and incompetence caught up with them and resulted in their being found guilty in Court of breaking electoral law.

You will note that even now EUkip is potentially liable to forfeiture and costs of between £1/2 & £1Million - to no small extent one must consider the incompetence of a Solicitor who let them get in this mess as their Party Secretary - is Ma Zucherman merely incompetent or is his greed and self importance blinding him to his duties that EUkip are in this mess.

You have to remember that it is this bufoon Ma Zucherman, who started screeching at an NEC meeting accusing a guest, invited by Nigel Farage to address the NEC, of being a Nazi - a bit rich in terms of racism from an executive of EUkip! Shortly thereafter Ma Zucherman is holding forth making a fool of himself dispensing medical diagnoses - not only is Ma Zucherman clearly incompetent but he is an idiot who brings the party and his professional union The Law Society, into disrepute by failing to advise the party as their Party Secretary.

It is noted that Ma Zucherman is failing to act in the interest of EUkip by failing to advise David Bannerman, Michael McGough, Douglas Denny, Andrew Smith and other obvious liars in the party heirachy to silence and for the sake of the party to resign their membership.
Then there is the elephant in the room which seems to be Farage's obsessive personal interest in other people's money - whether paying his wife, in the pretence that bringing up their assorted children is a Party responsibility - yet he has never found sufficient to make a donation to the party - no doubt too busy paying his wife to turn a blind eye to his childish insecurity and desperation to be adulated even if he brings the party into disrepute consorting with prostitutes or being unable to dispel the talk of his endless drunken chavery and involvement with female staff.

Surrounding himself with incompetents and the dishonest amongst whom to shine this weak and venal little man may well perform well for the odd soundbite having ensured he is the ONLY member of the party accessible to the media - we note how little interest the media has in his party in its irrelevance - they don't even bother publishing the bad news, let alone the good! This shows all to clearly how irrelevant EUkip has become.

In 15 years EUkip has achieved absolutely nothing to justify votes - they have with the dishonesty of such as Mark Croucher, Bob Feal Martiniz, Peter Reeve, Paul NuttAll, Ma Zucherman, Douglas Denny, Michael McGough and their idiotic posturings and the exploiting of the weakness and lack of integrity of the morally bankrupt nebishes like Anthony Butcher, Brendan Padmore and their sad ilk.
Now we note in the quest for cash
Farage's corrupt little crew have appointed the discreditted and dishonest Marta Andreasen as their placeman to obfuscate the accounts - for which she is obscenely over paid relative to the task as previously performed!

We still remember the £250,000 that was seemingly 'trousered' as unaccounted for in the 'Alleged' petition that was never held. Then there was over 50% of the income of Farage's office at Lyminster which became a further £211,000 that may well have been trousered as listing it as 'Other Expenses' and then paying an outsider £6,000 to sign off the books looks far from clarity.

It is also noted that Ashford in its incarnations garnered 100's of £1,000s from member and the public whilst presided over by the petty crook John Moran who has been proven already willing to raise money in the name of one cause and then perloin it for his own purposes! Is that what happened at Ashford where even the liar and cheat Bannerman admitted that less than 15% of the money raised ever saw its way to EUkip! & was the rest 'trousered' too?

Then we note having parachuted in the discreditted alien Marta Andreasen she was unable to throw any light on over £250,000 that was paid into a private account from Ashford Employment or one of its 'spot the lady' clones! Was this unable or unwilling on reflection as it was clear that Bruce Lawson before her had lacked the integrity or professional morality to present full and honest accounts when he was Treasurer and legged it making much of the facts that he intended to expose but seemingly his courage trickled down his leg - as nothing has been forthcoming.

Was the money just 'trousered'? Then one wonders what happened to the declared £170,000 that seemingly was 'trousered' in the Welsh election as there would seem to be no accounts!

Then of course there was the masterful obfuscation of the accounts of Ramsgate a process in which Marta Andreasen aided at the last EUkip business meeting where not only did she fail to answer the questions from Dr. David Abbott as an elected NEC member asking on behalf of the Party electorate but she has failed to address the issue since - just howmuch was trousered from the Ramsgate scam - or was it actually accounted and if so where.

It is astonishing just how fast £1,000,000 can conveniently vanish is it not!

Now we undersytand - having failed to account for all this money so far it would seem that not content with mailing out a very dubious begging letter seeking £20 from every member to fund an office for Farage!

Well I guess he needs a London Office since we understand he intends to set up yet another call centre - no doubt no less a rip off than the previous duplicitous call centres that have gathered so much and delivered so little! Well as far as EUkip is concerned. One wonders what role the undeniably dishonest John Moran will play in this new scam - a title I am happy to defend based upon track record to date of both Farage and Moran - Andreasen and EUkip call centres.

I wonder if Julia Longhurst has been made aware of the corruption and dishonesty her generosity in providing Farage with the venue at Lyminster will now be put to?

It would seem in total disregard of the well being of UKIP Farage and the dubious, not to say odious claque of fools, usefull idiots, liars and the self interested he has gathered around him they now seek at all cost to ensure Farage is re-elected but there seems little is being done to make EUkip electable with the shower of scheisters and liars they are fielding as candidates for MEP - Bannerman lied to get selected, Andreasen is not a legitimate candidate, Colman, possibly the best likely candidate, is bereft of the integrity one would hope for in a representative - do not forget that it was Colman who orchestrated the cover-up to assist Tom Wise and was happy to act dishonestly and willing to see further dishonesty on the febrile excuse that he was being paid to be a liar!
Regardless of the report displaying dishonesty and corruption in EUkip's selection process written by their own Returning Officer and deliberately and dishonestly ignored by EUkip's leadershiip and NEC - can YOU name a single candidate in position one or two on any EUkip list that YOU would wish to represent YOU that YOU could or would wish to trust - then consider where over £1Million has seemingly vanished!

EUkip has had 15 years and has not moved Britain either one inch or 2.5cms. closer to the Exit and even at the beginning of December Farage was advocating support of Declan Ganley as it would give EUkip (well him) control over £6Million - Declan Ganley may well be politically inept but clearly he is not a fool and he has denounced EUkip under Farage and the present crew of nere do wells he has gathered about him as 'A Buster Flush' it is not just EUkip members that despair and know that EUkip is unelectable, dishonest, corrupt and FINISHED.

Now we note EUkip's corrupt leadership and their puppets are suppressing democracy amongst the ranks of members - banning members, inventing false claims of BNP, rigging votes, blocking member renewals and removing elected NEC members who have proved honest - just as repeatedly Dell Young has been taunted and belittled by the leadership and the childish posturing and chanting of the fools on the NEC when Dr. David Abbott has tried to acvquit his duty as an elected member.

Many of you will have noted that Dr. Eric Edmond has been under attack from the dishonest and corrupt members of the leadership and NEC for having the timerity to carry out his duty on behalf of those who elected him and establish the liabilities of EUkip and who is responsible for them.

On a lesser level you will have noted the dishonesty of the witch hunt that has been mounted against Niall Warry who it would seem likely will be taking the leadership and NEC of EUkip to Court for their dishonest and defamatory behaviour.

I have also made something of a study of the dishonesty and lies that have been made to try to silence John West - I have retained the details and will be only too happy to act as a witness in Court when the various Court cases come due.
Whether as a witness in the cases brought by OLAF or those brought by The Police. I am happy to act as an honest witness for:
The Data Protection Commissioner
The Information Commission Office
The Bedfordshire Constabulary
The Essex Constabulary
The Electoral Commission
HM Customs
Inland Revenue
Westminster Council
OLAF
ALL of whom would seem to have cases under investigation or pending!
The only way to make EUkip electable is to hand it back to the members as we bring the corrupt, self seeking, dishonest members of the leadership and NEC to Justice and amongst these I include Nigel Farage, David Bannerman, Paul NuttAll, Peter Reeve, Tom Wise, Jeffrey Titford, Andrew Smith, Stuart Gulleford, David Lott, Marta Andreasen, Michael McGough, Derek Clark, Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Annabelle Fuller and others - all of whom have colluded, to a greater or lesser extent in dishonesty, corruption, criminality and lies, individuals who without doubt have brought EUkip into disrepute.
There is absolutely no doubt as an example that Tom Wise & Lindsay Jenkins jointly signed a false instrument and as a result Tom Wise has been under arrest for over 6 months though out on Bail and similarly Ma Zucherman, Paul NuttAll and Jeffrey Titford have colluded in corruption and signed a false instrument bringing dishonest false witness, similarly Farage & Fuller have colluded dishonestly in the matter of her employ and her criminal posting of confidential material on YouTube undenounced by Christopher Gill, Ma Zucherman and others who thus colluded in the crime.

There is little doubt that UKIP is still our ONLY lifeboat but it has seemingly been hijacked by crooks, pirates and thieves stealing the dreams and aspirations of informed decent and honest UKIP members - reliant on the gullibility of the ignorant, the greed of the corrupt and the complicity of the apathetic!

This leaves us with little choice at the moment as EUkip is clearly unelectable in its present befouled state:

TO LEAVE THE EU


Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British Politician of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country.Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

Sunday, 4 January 2009

#220* - EUkip NEC REPORT PROVES AN EMBARRASSMENT

#220* - EUkip NEC REPORT PROVES AN EMBARRASSMENT

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives
the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip ASTONISHINGLY PERMITS ITS NEC TO TOTALLY WASTE ITS TIME, IN VIEW OF THE FACT THAT THE EU & LOCAL ELECTIONS ARE IN JUNE!


Hi,

astonishingly when one is aware just how little time is left

You will note that EUkip's lame, dishonest, corrupt NEC has displayed its concern for our Country by meeting to perpetuate the sordid behaviour of Kangaroo Courts, self serving and we now note, since they seem likely to find themselves challenged in the Courts they seek to spend member's money on forming themselves as a Limited Company to protect their Officers from their own corruption! or so it would seem.

Astonishingly it seems that they are determined to remove the concepts of democracy and act like The EU bringing false charges and dishonesty to bear to enact their wishes in their own interests. It is clear that in their self interest seeking position and personal income for Farage and a couple of his cronies they trump up charges and allegations against members of long standing and seek to hide the truth by selective wording of their NEC Report which formerly was made public but was to be kept from public eyes to ensure the public were unaware of just how corrupt EUkip's leadership has become.

Clearly the NEC is acting as a kangaroo court with unspecified charges, dishonestly made to unseat members to suit the leadership - in denial of all the values of democracy. You will have noted the dishonesty of the claims against Dr. David Abbott & Dr. Eric Edmond by the organ of EUkip supporters with lies and distortions.

I am all too well aware of the corruption of EUkip with its so EU styled dishonesty - one only has to study the lies of Deny, Croucher, Feal Martiniz, Malcolm Wood, Batten and others, made in public, seeking desperately to discredit me as they are unable to address the facts I have put in the public domain.

We note that EUkip's competence is hampered by the incompetence of its officers - in his haste to call the shots from behind the curtain emulating Robespierre Farage in his inadequacy has appointed a graceless Mussollini look alike to preside in his stead. The party is without competence, integrity or dignity - unable to address its critics it, like the EU or The USSR, brands its critics as criminal, BNP, CIA, mental, sick or similar - I note I am branded by the low life and trash EUkip choose to use as living in a hovel (albeit a 16 room hovel in the centre of a town!), dealing in stolen goods, bankrupt and mentally ill - so very like the USSR - I note they now follow the principles of Kafka's 'Trial' failing to hold any just trial but rather issuing sentence without evidence or fact!

Read in their own minutes how dishonestly they have treated John West, Dr. Abbott, Niall Warry, Martin Hasslam, Dr. Edmond & others - THEN look at the trash gathered around the table in judgement - proven liars like Bannerman and not a single individual of repute remaining on the NEC. No wonder they have so little understanding of concepts of Justice. Even their own finances are little more than a scam having been presided over by liars and buffoons sequentially since John de Rorke left - now presided over by the discreditted and dishonest Marta Andreasen.

Feeling that it was important that EUkip's general dishonesty and corruption was exposed to the light of day I felt it apposite to copy and paste it from their 'clandestine' web site where they seek to hide their criminality under their own rules and unsuitability for office.

The more one reads or knows of their behaviour, dishonesty and corruption the more one understands why EUkip has achieved so very little in getting Britain OUT of the odious and centralised, corrupt and undemocratic EU.

The further one is from the epicentre of the stone thrown into the slurry pit of EUkip's leadership the more stupid and transparent are the lies - consider Andrew Smith, Bob Feal Martiniz, Michael McGough, Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, George Curtis, Peter Reeve, Paul NuttAll, David Bannerman - I include the last 3 because of their staggering stupidity as puppets and serial liars bullying and dishonestly holding their positions, the others in this paragraph are merely usefull idiots aiding Farage in the destruction of UKIP but promoting his chances of re-election to the flesh pots and debauchery he so enjoys.

Herer is the sad list of human failures and their failure in terms of leadership - minded that the elections are less than 6 months hence - their plan is shown to be destruction and dishonesty:

Present,- Paul Nuttall* (Party Chairman) (PN), Nigel Farage MEP (Party leader) (NF), David Campbell Bannerman (DCB), Marta Andreasen* (MA), Gerard Batten MEP (GB), Michael Zuckerman (MZ) , Rachel Oxley (RO), Jill Seymour (JS), Delroy Young (DY), Christopher Gill (CG), Douglas Denny (DD), Derek Clark MEP(DC). * - indicates ex-officio non-voting member.Also present: Jonathan Arnott (General Secretary, minutes)Apologies for absence: Lisa Duffy, Alan Bown.

Meeting started: 1.08pm.Minutes of previous meetingThe minutes of the previous meeting were carried by 8-1(DY) with 1 abstention (GB, not present at previous meeting). Proposed by DD, seconded by RO.Matters ArisingDD pointed out that members would like to receive further information about NEC meetings. It was agreed that JA would post a brief report and any non-confidential motions passed on the http://www.ukip.org.uk/ forum.MA complained that Martin Haslam had made unauthorised payments. DY said that he did not believe this. Motion 1: That the Party Chairman should speak to Martin Haslam, carry out an investigation and act as he sees fit. Proposed by DD, seconded by CG. Carried 9-1(DY).David Abbott - appealDavid Abbott was not present to present his case for the original decision to be reversed. The matter was deferred to the next meeting.Internal Communications CommitteePN proposed an Internal Communications Committee to ensure smooth running of the party and that Head Office, the Press Office, Brussels, Regional Organisers, Young Independence and the website team are aware of what each other is doing. Examples of lack of communication were given.Motion 3: That Paul Nuttall be authorised to set up an Internal Communications Committee. Proposed by JS, seconded by MZ. Carried by 7-0 with 2 abstentions (DY, CG)DCB mentioned the idea of also having an External Communications Committee. It was agreed that this did not require immediate further consideration.Proposed changes to the UKIP ConstitutionMotions 4 to 11 concerned the proposed changes to the UKIP Constitution. The proposals will be put to the membership in January 2009.Motion 12: That Derek Clark MEP be asked to authorised to submit the proposed changes to the Constitution on behalf of the NEC on behalf of the NEC, and to provide the NEC's position. Proposed by DD, seconded by RO. Carried by 7-1(DY) with no abstentions.DC was thanked for his efforts in putting together these proposed changes.NEC liability MZ gave a brief report concerning NEC liability, suggesting that the party become a company limited by guarantee. DY asked whether the guarantee would make the whole membership liable or just the NEC; MZ answered that only the Officers will have this limited liability. However, the transfer is legally complex and must be done by a professional. A budget would therefore be required.Motion 13: That MZ be approved to go ahead with the procedure of transferring the UKIP assets to a company, limited by guarantee. A budget of £5,000 plus VAT is agreed for this purpose. Proposed by JS, seconded by MZ. Carried by 8-0 with no abstentions.NEC electionsA proposal was received from the Surrey County Committee to discuss asking the Electoral Reform Society to oversee future ballots. DD spoke in favour of the current system, describing the ERS as an expensive luxury. NF wished the motion to praise the work of Head Office, who often do not get sufficient credit for the work that they do.Motion 14: That the UKIP NEC has total confidence in the ability of Head Office to organise internal party elections efficiently, and therefore no outside organisation should be asked to administer internal party elections. Proposed by NF, seconded by DCB. Carried by 6-1(DY) with no abstentions.Proposal (Witney Branch) Committee Witney branch had proposed that branch committees be permitted to use postal ballots to select branch committees. Concerns were raised as to the security and transparency of this system.Motion 15: That the proposed changes to the Branch & Constituency Association Rules be adopted. Failed by 0-7 with no abstentions.It was agreed that PN would write a letter to the branch to explain the reasons for rejecting the proposal.Party Leader's reportNF reported that there is a Political Committee meeting next Monday and there will be important decisions to make. The use of the Press Office from 1st February will be difficult. Declan Ganley opposes the Lisbon Treaty, but would support a revised EU constitution. Therefore, UKIP should not enter into a deal with Declan Ganley.Motion 16: That Ken Irvine be given the formal role of Campaign Director in charge of policy for the European elections. The NEC reaffirms Steve Allison's role as Head of Elections and Campaign Manager in charge of logistics. Proposed by NF, seconded by DCB. Carried 8-0 with 2 abstentions (DY, GB).Treasurer's reportThe Party has roughly 15,000 members. We expect a December with relatively low income.Party Secretary's reportThe complaint against John West by Jeffrey Titford MEP has come before the complaints panel. He has been suspended from UKIP membership pending a hearing which will take place in the new year.General Secretary's reportThe new members' internet forum now has over 200 members.The Party has filed a defence to the John West court case.JA is also looking into the feasibility of sending e-flyers to members for use as a new recruitment tool.Niall Warry - membershipPN reported having received a number of complaints from senior members asking for Niall Warry's membership renewal request to be refused; disciplinary action had not been taken as a result. DY asked why the renewal could not be accepted and the standard Disciplinary procedures followed; DD argued that this was unnecessary as the evidence was clear and the party has no responsibility to renew.Motion 17: That the membership renewal of Niall Warry not be accepted by the Party. Proposed by DD, seconded by DRC. Carried by 6-1(DY) with one abstention(MZ).Any other businessDD commended the work of the South-West region and others in producing a quality tabloid UKIP newspaper. Date of next meeting: 12th JanuaryMeeting closed: 6.41pm.
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Harry AldridgeGeneral OfflineFull Name: Harry AldridgePosts: 199

Re: NEC meeting December 2008 « Reply #1 on: December 18, 2008, 04:24:57 PM »
Thanks John.One question - there appears to be 10 voting members present, but some of the votes on motions do not add up to 10 when taking into account the for, against, and abstaining members. How come?
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Jonathan ArnottAdministratorGeneral OfflineFull Name: Jonathan ArnottPosts: 287

Re: NEC meeting December 2008 « Reply #2 on: December 18, 2008, 11:41:17 PM »
The meeting lasted for well over 5 hours. Occasionally Nigel Farage in particular has to leave the room to deal with calls from the media. At least one NEC member had to leave before the end due to the length of the meeting. The votes only add up to the number of people physically present in the room at the time of that vote.
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John YoulesGeneral OnlinePosts: 187

Re: NEC meeting December 2008 « Reply #3 on: December 19, 2008, 09:44:42 AM »
Thank you very much for posting these minutes, Jonathan, it's an excellent development.
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John TennantGeneral OfflineFull Name: John David Edward TennantPosts: 47

Re: NEC meeting December 2008 « Reply #4 on: December 20, 2008, 11:46:15 AM »
Commuication has improved dramatically in this party! Well done Jon.J
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Wayne HarlingGeneral OfflineFull Name: Wayne HarlingPosts: 60

Re: NEC meeting December 2008 « Reply #5 on: December 22, 2008, 07:55:36 AM »
Quote from: Jonathan Arnott on December 18, 2008, 02:54:13 PM
NEC liability MZ gave a brief report concerning NEC liability, suggesting that the party become a company limited by guarantee. DY asked whether the guarantee would make the whole membership liable or just the NEC; MZ answered that only the Officers will have this limited liability. However, the transfer is legally complex and must be done by a professional. A budget would therefore be required.Motion 13: That MZ be approved to go ahead with the procedure of transferring the UKIP assets to a company, limited by guarantee. A budget of £5,000 plus VAT is agreed for this purpose. Proposed by JS, seconded by MZ. Carried by 8-0 with no abstentions.Jonathon, can you please go into more detail about the above regarding NEC liability and UKIP as a limited company? Cheers
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Jonathan ArnottAdministratorGeneral OfflineFull Name: Jonathan ArnottPosts: 287

Re: NEC meeting December 2008 « Reply #6 on: December 22, 2008, 10:19:09 PM »
Quote from: Wayne Harling on December 22, 2008, 07:55:36 AM
Jonathon, can you please go into more detail about the above regarding NEC liability and UKIP as a limited company?Technically, if the party were to be bankrupted tomorrow then NEC members would be jointly and severally liable. Registering the party as a company limited by guarantee guarantees that no-one would have to pay more than a token sum (perhaps in the order of £10) if the company were wound up.
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Wayne HarlingGeneral OfflineFull Name: Wayne HarlingPosts: 60

Re: NEC meeting December 2008 « Reply #7 on: December 22, 2008, 10:38:12 PM »
In which case Jonathon, that sounds like a grand idea. Especially as it would take away the neccesity of the wealthy to be on the NEC. Pending the next set of results, I would have nothing to lose anyway.

LEAVE THE EU

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST
– since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country.
Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

Saturday, 3 January 2009

#219* - EUkip EAST MIDLANDS IN SELF DESTRUCT?

#219* - EUkip EAST MIDLANDS IN SELF DESTRUCT?



Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!


The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership

& NEC is what gives

the remaining 10% a bad name!


ASTONISHINGLY EUkip EAST MIDLANDS

SEEM TO BE ON A COURSE OF

SELF DESTRUCT



Hi,



Nigel Farage having lied to Robert Kilroy Silk to gain his support Farage failed to show the leadership skills adequate to keep Silk on board by binding him in a gilded cage with a big job to suit his ego, before he could set out to pull the temple down around his ears when thwarted.



RKS was driven out, and rightly so at that stage, but had Farage not lied to him in the first place the entire sorry episode which spelt the start of the demise of EUkip could have been avoided.

RKS has carried on as an MEP doing considerably more work for Britain than have the EUkip MEPs, as has Ashley Mote! Both Ashley & RKS for all their faults they have produced a prodigious amount of information and asked a huge amount of questions either Ashley or RKS has done done more meaningful work than all of EUkip's MEPs put together!

Derek Clark in his venal self interest bought a clique of weak and useless individuals to gather around him, using tax payers money, he then proceded to systematically emasculate every single individual of competence, ideas or ability within his region like a cuckoo chick steadily bloating on the largess of the EU troughs on the gravy train he pushed out any and all activists .



The East Midlands has not only seen RKS's departure from EUkip but the eviceration of the very committee that gained Clark his over promoted status, where he betrayed the British peoples, the electorate and the supporters of EUkip who voted for him.

To cover up his hedonism he paid a team of ignorammi as his praise singers - called a false and dishonest Kangaroo Court to remove his Regional Chairman Peter Baker, a long serving and loyal UKIP member - forced out his committee secretary Marilyn Swayne, marginalised and bullied his committee members such as Dell Young, Geoffrey Kingscott, Ian Gilman, Andy Parsons and others.

In his arrogance and self important hubris the fool went so far as to boast at a public meeting of the ways in which he obtained money from the EU fraudullently and when challenged stated he would cease to contribute to EUkip if he had a problem - this grubby little man went so far as to threaten EUkip with their own monewy! He was a long retired general science teacher with little or no experience beyond youngsters in a class room and no doubt ostracism in the staff room!

He then went on to not only celebrate the 50th. year of imposition of the EU with great gusto in Berlin but when not on holiday in the EU with his wife was enjoying its benefits often with her in travel and status - becoming a very grand fellow in his shaving mirror, as EUkip in his region collapsed.

We note with interest that even his long serving and to some extent long suffering staff member Tony Elwood would seem to have been manoeuvered out!

Since EUkip was first founded on of their early dedicated workers was Tony Elwood and he was returning officer in each and ever election - but no more! No doubt he lacks the level of venal self interest and sychophancy Derek Clark demands - let us face it Derek Clark will require a pretty good team of liars and cheats to go forth and lie about him to give him any chance of getting him back on the gravy train to celebrate his 80th. birthday in the sabarytic luxury on the EU Gravy Train.

I understand it is likely that Elwood has been ousted because he not only knew too much but had sufficient integrity that he could not be as readily bought as some on the payroll!

Let us hope that the electorate are not so foolish as to caste their vote for this reprehensible old man and his betrayal of our Country and our peoples!

One can but hope the electorate have sufficient wit and intelligence to deny the EU its mandate - not by apathy but by attending to vote and spoilling their ballot paper with the slogan:
LEAVE THE EU
it matters not a jot who takes the position as an MEP is - If you happen to know an honest MEP they will be the first to tell you that they have absolutely no say, no validity and no influence.

Massively Expensive Parasites - there are few more parasitic or self seeking than Derek Clark and he is fairly average when it comes to the callibre of candidates EUkip is fielding - but they are unlikely to be returned as MEPs this time after their self enrichment and shamefull publicity since 2004.

Even The Reichstag Fire moment engineered by Farage and his puppets and muppets on the NEC with a pretence of BNP infiltration will not provide them with a plausible excuse for their failure of character that WILL account for their demise.

One need only look at the rest of the claque and the odious people who support them - so many of whom are liars, cheats, petty crooks, bullies and the scum of political ambition like Clark, Andreasen, Andrew Smith, Michael McGough, David Bannerman, Stuart Agnew, Mark Croucher and the others squabbling and writhing for a place at the trough!



LEAVE THE EU

Politicians are failing to tell the truth but so are almost all wanabe Politicians and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, EVER elected has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved NOTHING!
To try to put a value on Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our dreams, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!
I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country.
Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU

Friday, 2 January 2009

#218* - EUkip IS SADLY WORSE 2 YEARS LATER!

#218* - EUkip IS SADLY WORSE 2 YEARS LATER!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is
what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

ASTONISHINGLY EUkip HAVE CHANGED FOR THE WORSE, QUITE CLEARLY, DURING THE LAST 2 YEARS - AS MY POSTING OF FEBRUARY 2007 SHOWS!

Hi,

it is interesting to note that 2 years ago it seems young Chris Mounsey was seeking sufficient notoriety from trying to denigrate me to sufficient to get himself elected to the NEC - now in 2009 we note Bob Feal-Martiniz, Michael McGough and others are trying to follow the same course.

Currently we have the same problems with EUkip - beset with dishonesty and corruption and led by self seekers and the dishonest. Nothing new there then!

That young Mounsey's naive posturing is as fatuous now as it was then is sad but it would seem that he has grown up a little having moved away from EUkip, though I am aware he is still as willing to publish without checking his facts now as he did then!

So let me hand over to Mounsey whose posting was brought to my attention some 2 years after he made it through a quirck of Google:





So, for your edification,

I thought that I would publish the latest email missive from Greg, who sends them regularly to a number of organisations.

This particular email is one of the less libellous ones.


(Fortunately as I have NEVER libelled anyone, Chris' rather stereotype inferrence has as little credibility as much else he says! It is interesting that to currie favour whilst seeking election to EUkip's NEC he felt a need to sink to the levels of dishonesty of the likes of Malcolm Wood, Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher and the rest who seek preferrment in EUkip by seeking to demean me and lie about me!



A means to achievement to this day as you will note from the corrupt behaviour of such as Anthony Butcher & his fellow moderator Brendan Padmore who so readily cow tow to the demands of EUkip's corrupt and dishonest leadership, providing a platform to those who seek self aggrandisement at my expense such as croucher, McGough, Denny and their ilk.)


Oh, and the "UKIP Forum" that he mentions is, in fact,
The British Independence and Democracy Forum which, whilst it used to be called the UKIP Forum, was asked to cease using that URL some time ago since it is not, in any way, affiliated with UKIP (although several UKIP members post there).


Reply to Greg@GlanceBack.Demon.co.UK


Hi,


Having seen many lies, distortions and abuse on UKIP Forum by serial liars like Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher and others and also gratuitous abuse by the dishonest foul mouthed
Annabell Fuller aka ‘BellyTricks’, and her odious little friend the revolting and childish ‘Devils Kitchen’ (aka Chris Mounsey) – was particularly disgusted at the endless dishonest and ill informed attacks made of people who resigned from EUkip in their disgust at the clearly dishonest leadership team.


The sordid, ill mannered behaviour of those in the pay of the EU through EUkip and their endless deceipt, duplicity and corruption from the unarguable dishonesty and fraud of Tom Wise, clearly on a self enrichment scam, (as made clear by the media and now under arrest and on bail!)) the duplicty of the NEC (with its lies and fantasies of BNP infiltration to cover for its own dishonesty!), MEPs and the corrupt inquiry of Trevor Colman in covering up shows them all to have colluded in the fraud.


The willingness to distort and lie in such an EU style relative to the whistleblower and the duplicity and deception of Lindsay Jenkins repeating lies verbally and in written form regarding myself.

The lies of Denny, Malcolm Wood, John Moran, Graham Booth and others in fear of exposure by myself and finally the lies about the £363,000 make one sick at the thought that these revolting people have siezed the controls, so clearly for their own gain as useful idiots acting for the EU, of EUkip which held such promise for the repatriation of independence and sovereignty for its grass roots and the honest activists.


I was aware that Alan Bown had made donations to EUkip during a period when seemingly he had lapsed from the electoral roll – I had thought the contribution was almost £500,000 but seemingly I over estimated – I had assumed that Alan Bown had dropped off of the electoral roll for personal reasons as I knew he still had his house and other properties and I assumed he had done so to either avoid begging letters having sold his business, to avoid ‘old rivalries’ as his background was possibly unsavoury having made his money as a professional gambler with betting shops, or finally that having taken up with some woman now he had money he was elluding a spouse – who knows.


I DID know Alan Bown was not on the electoral roll and I spoke to the then treasurer John deRoeke (John has made public confirmation of this however it was during a transitional stage when the Treasurer had become Andrew Smith), David Lott and Nigel Farage advocating they regularise the matter to avoid being ‘zapped’ when they could politically least afford it!
This and other reasons combine to clarify why I always stated Nigel Farage was EUkip’s greatest asset and greatest liability – NF is clearly the only direct link wittingly between the illegal money and the present management since Alan Bown had no legal responsibility to know his payment was unlawful – it was the duty of EUkip to ensure ALL donations were lawful NF & others deliberately floutted the law even if it could be shown they originally acted out of incompetence.

To see the odious behaviour of Farage supporters and those seeking to keep their snouts, if not in the troughs at least clear of risk, prepared to berate, lie, denigrate and distort – particularly on UKIP Forum, is a sickening spectacle.

Consider the lies and distortions of the posturing and idiotic little Croucher where I have lifted his whole farago of lies from UKIP Forum and commented in text commencing >>> and ending <<< id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5286840314091698578" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 117px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 95px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdMPOdpe-jn8kT1gIC9GQFSjmzRqBHd90V3QNEwFDofMAbrMElj7-WlmOdcE-LQpEzfuW3Tb6r-GrMX-INq9tXkAkM631jvi10obhup6GTOMy6cDMpfbiVebmWfx1eXRD8kOJLkxxvKkUC/s320/COCKROACH+01.jpg" border="0">Denny, Page, Croucher, Wood, Moran, Wise, Knapman, Batten, Jenkins, Booth and other liars, cheats and dissemblers will none of them be man enough nor have the integrity to apologise for the lies they have spread about me just as The Sunday Telegraph will clearly show my warnings have been right – to the detail!

We desperately need a strong opposition in Government as a Government is as good as its opposition – is it any wonder Labour are a disaster – just look at the callibre of The Tories to understand how they can be so dishonest and so incompetent – clearly apart from the sad old Ming and his team of s**t Eaters, drunk & perverts it would seem every British Party has a liar, a cheat and a fraud as leader, clearly EUkip is becoming more mainstream by the minute, they even have a couple of ineffectual passed over Peers now!

Britain desperately needs a STRONG EUroRealist Party Pressure Group acting politically to chuck the evil communist construct of a EUropean soviet and to redeem our democracy and the fundamental human right of self determination liberated from the undemocratic EU the communist Gaulleiters and the doctorine of Common Purpose so wrapped in the dishonesties and control of Political Correctness, new speak and false fears of SARS, BSE, F&M, Global warming, religious fears, fake terrorism and Climate Change which man does NOT cause and can not influence as we have almost no understanding of its causes cyclicly as we move from ice age to ice age!

I warned many years ago that UKIP was our lifeboat but sadly it has been seized by crooks, pirates and freebooters for their own gain and glory.

I warned against permitting the corrupt to seize EUkip and I said I would act if they did.

I am proud to say that I have participated in every exposure of the truth so far and I promise you aint seen nothing yet – we are inching ever closer to a possible series of prison cells but there is still time for the corrupt to apologise and resign – returning that which they have perloined as they depart.

I will continue to supply the media with material without fear or favour until UKIP is returned to the grass roots and the honest. People like Page, Croucher and their ilk serve their cause ill with lies and distortions to journalists.

Just as EUkip being in such a parlous stage that currently the press office referrs all questions to Farage! In view of the dishonesty and lies it is probably a good idea as that way at least only one ‘story’ gets spun!

Now to show just how serious are the lies of EUkip I will deal with EUkip’s Press Officer’s mailing minded that he is still contractually employed until April though seemingly on paid holiday in return, I hear, for his silence for which he will be rewarded!

END of Quoted Section From February 2007

It seems to me that this guy is just a wee bit unhinged, frankly.

It is entirely up to you whether you find Chris Mounsey's self agrandising prattle of value!

However, The Times and The Telegraph do take him seriously, it seems. Which is weird because, having seen a goodly number of his lunatic ravings, I wouldn't.

A measure of Mounsey's veracity AND judgement may well be noted as the fact that I believe he is actually alluding to The SUNDAY Times & Telegraphs!

As far as I am aware, none of these stories have any real substance to them; indeed, whilst The Telegraph keeps on harping back to its story about lots of money not making it into the central accounts, one thing that the Electoral Commission's report has shown is that the story is false.

It would be unwise to take Mounsey literally as do remember he was at the time seeking authority and no doubt a stepping stone to the troughs of Brusells! Thus he conveniently overlooks facts - such as those that brought Nigel Farage, Andrew Smith and others to a Guilty Verdict in The Courts and subsequently, due to their stupidity and arrogant hubris, to a Judicial Review, which could yet cost EUkip upwards of £1/2Million to £1M. in costs and forfeiture.

This does not even take into consideration what seem to have been as much as a further £1Million in unaccounted monies that may well have been fraudulently trousered!

It is clear from his subsequent utterances the young Mounsey is seeking to balance his way between understanding and the integrity of exposure and his own electoral benefit within EUkip!!

However, it would seem indisputable that UKIP's finances could be run rather more professionally. The problem is that that would require a full-time Treasurer (rather than a Treasurer who has a day-job as an accountant, as they have had so far).

Oh how very observant of the lad - the great wen would seem to be providing lessons in 'catch-up'. Clearly he has realised that you don't get much of an accountant for nothing - and boy has Andrew Smith proved that in spades with his unprofessional laxity amounting to dishonesty in the hands of someone who CLAIMS competence! As backed by his little runner and serial liar McGough who tries manfully to cover for him, no doubt in hope and expectation!

It should be pointed out at this stage, that your humble Devil (Chris Mounsey) is running for the UKIP National Executive Committee and, if elected, will do his level best to ensure that these sorts of allegations cannot be made again.That is, if the party survives that long...

So openly Mounsey explains his bias but then seeks to justify it by promising to get honest IF he is elected!!

EUkip has shown it has NOTHING to offer the British electorate other than corruption, greed, self interest and betrayal. Liars - Cheats & Rascals.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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