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Sunday 26 April 2009

#437* - A JR & The STATE of PLAY IN MATTERS WEST!

#000* - HERE IS A TEMPLATE SHORT INDEX TITLE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!



The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

A Judicial Review & The STATE of PLAY With Regard To LEGAL MATTERS IN RELATION To John WEST & His Wife!!


Hi,

JUDICIAL REVIEW & The Scum on what was UKIPForum

Bob FM on The UKIPForum (now renamed) is in the habit of bombastically and aggressively making a fool of himself and misrepresenting information in support of corruption, his own best interests and the discredited EUkip – like a small child given the support of an adult he ill manneredly and oaffishyly insults all and sundry yet when challenged – like a coward fails to address the facts.

He seems very brave in his libels and abuse of myself which is hardly surprising because as a coward he is aware that the dishonest and corrupt Brendan Padmore and Anthony Butcher have both shown they are untrustworthy, unprincipled and dishonest on a repetitive basis and have dishonestly removed me from their forum based on my statements of fact.

Seemingly facts with provenance and or substantiation are not permitted when they expose their dishonesty – yet they provide a platform for my denigration, and the abuse of any who wish to misrepresent information to my detriment.

Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore are beneath contempt as they provide a near unchallenged platform for serial liars, dissemblers and those seeking to mislead and defame based upon distortion – one has to wonder which are the worse, filth like Douglas Denny, Paul Nuttall, Mark Croucher and their ilk, fools like Bob FM or the fundamental lack of integrity or comprehension of morality and ethics of low lifes like Padmore & Butcher aiding the liars and cheats.

Bob has today stated:

>>A Judicial Review is an examination of a Public body that derives it's power by statute. There are civil court redresses for most things, they fall outside of the scope of a JR. There may well be civil remedies available against UKIP, but so far all we have heard of and is continually referred to by the West camp is a JR. I have maintained from the outset, mainly because I have been involved in one and researched it in detail that UKIP simply cannot be subject to one. I think Mr West knows that which is why he will not answer the direct question.<<

I take the liberty of pointing out, since he has been so serially offensive on this matter, that Bob Feel-Martinis is in fact WRONG – he has been wrong repeatedly and has been offensive in his ill mannered assertions of his self proclaimed wisdom. Judge Bazley White stated VERY CLEARLY that he felt that the application to his small claims court by both Mr. West and Mrs. West were inappropriate for his Court and implied that the requirement of adjudgement of internal process of an organisation was beyond his remit.

At no time did he or any other party imply or intimate, state or write that there was any abuse of due process or his Court. Judge Bazley White clearly stated AS A JUDGE on official Court correspondence that the more appropriate course of action would be a Judicial Review of the process or reallocation of the case to The County Court system in the locale of the defendant.

The documents were posted to aid on my blog http://CaterpillarsAndButterflies.BlogSpot.com some time ago – sadly Bob FM and others assumed that I would sink to their level and lie about such a matter and were provided with a platform to make such claims against myself, John West, Geoffrey Collier and others by the dishonesty of Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore and it would seem the turncoat Tom something or other (formerly claiming to be liberal!) is all too happy to conjoin in the dishonesty.

The allocation hearing was held before another Judge who upheld the suggestions advocated by Judge Bazley White and left the matter in the hands of John West and his wife Allison, having joined the two cases. The distortions and lies of the common Croucher on this matter as posted on The Forum and upheld by Anthony Butcher and Brendan Padmore were flagrant lies and a direct contempt of Court.

I was party to the discussions with John West’s Solicitors and subsequently to the conference with a QC of Matrix Chambers. May I assure one and all that a Judicial Review is a possibility however I believe it would be unwise for John West to proceed on that course of action as although the costs are covered for a hearing at The High Courts and although the evidence is clearly in John West’s favour the risks outweigh the value of the gain.

There is absolutely no doubt that EUkip can be brought before a JR in the view of the Two Judges and the QC concerned nor the Solicitors – though I concur the reticence of advising John West to take such a course of action as it may prove that Justice is reflected in a truelly EU style as that which one can afford! Clearly EUkip would be only too willing to act as they have in the past, in flagrant disregard for the financial well being of the members.

Sadly EUkip is far more likely to spend 10s of £1,000s of members money rather than act honourably towards the Wests and others whom they have swindled. I have stepped into this matter in my independent position and have done so to save John West or his wife seeking to address the serial dishonesty on The Forum as although I am sure he would be willing to answer the duplicity of some on The Forum may lead him to prejudice his position in ongoing matters regarding EUkip and various of its personnel currently and claimed formerly.

Although John West offered to respond on The Forum I have advised him against so doing, as it is so corrupted by the dishonesty of its owner, certain of its moderators and numerous of its members who lack any code of ethics.

Obviously John West will make his own decisions but would be wise to avoid the abusive behaviour of responding to the dishonest participants on The Forum who based on previous experience can count on the dishonesty of the Forum owner and some of his moderators to protect the liars and the cheats like McGough, Denny, Martinias, Crouicher and similar who have shown themselves consistently to be dishonest and do UKIP such harm for their personal gain.

They have lost all credibility and dragged UKIP into the gutter of their lives. Clearly I am willing to put this matter in the public domain in my own name and am willing publicly to answer any questions I deem relevant – those who regularly read my material will appreciate I try to give as clear a position as possible without misleading people – I leave the dishonesty and corruption to EUkip, its leadership and its supporters who have a proven track record for such behaviour.

To be specific on the matter of Judicial Review I am reliably advised that Derry Irvine when Lord Chancellor against the wishes of the Government broadened the basis of those who fell subject to JR as it was felt that it should be all who functioned by statute from the public purse at the tax payers expense thus including both Political Parties and much of the kleptocratic QUANGOcracy set up as a salary vote by New Labour – my words not those of ‘silk’!

If I can be of further assistance please do not hesitate to call me and I will try to clarify any questions you may have.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62


John West:
A statement regarding my legal actions against UKIP.
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Here is the promised statement.

Following discussions with my legal team I have decided not to make any further public statements regarding these matters.

The Judicial Review.

On 17th February my wife and I took the UK Independence Party to the small claims court.

This concerned the return of our £500 (£250 each) candidate deposits.

It was heard by District Judge McLoughlin and not District Judge Bazley White as claimed by a certain blog and Mark Croucher. J. Arnott and P.Reeve were representing UKIP.

Neither spoke during the proceedings.
There was no one else present.
The Judge said that there appeared to be evidence of ‘malpractice and misadministration’ during UKIP’s MEP selection process.

However, he went on to explain that this matter could not be dealt with by the small claims court as it did not come within their remit.

He recommended that we contact a solicitor with a view to getting a JR against UKIP. At no time did he use the words attributed to him by Bob Feal-Martinez and Mark Croucher. We did as he advised.

Our solicitor has been in contact with a QC who has advised that a JR is a possibility.

The QC said “the core issues for a JR, if it could be pursued, would be UKIP’s selection of candidates and than a complete failure by UKIP to follow up the report of Mr Merchant and not re-opening the selection process”.

I am now looking into raising the necessary finances for a JR.

You Tube.

I am happy to confirm that I will be taking UKIP and one of their associates to court over the leaking of my MEP interview.

I will be serving the papers next week. Peter Reeve. My complaint against Peter Reeve is now with the CPS.

Michael Zuckerman & Jeffrey Titford.

I have made two complaints to the Law Society about Michael Zuckerman.

These complaints concern attempted witness intimidation and using mental illness as a term of abuse.

The complaints are ongoing.

I have made a complaint to the Police about Jeffrey Titford’s involvement in attempted witness intimidation.

The complaint is ongoing.

OLAF is ‘evaluating’ Jeffrey Titford’s police file.

I have been told by OLAF not to expect a decision on Mr Titford until after June.

Data Protection.

My complaint against UKIP over their refusal to comply with Section 7 of the DPA is still ongoing.

My other complaint against UKIP concerns the leaking of MEP video interview.

Mark Croucher and a certain blog (said to be connected to him ) allege that my complaint has been dismissed and UKIP exonerated.

This is a lie.

That M. Croucher can make fun of an incident that has forever disgraced the current leadership of UKIP tells you all you need to know about his morals and integrity.

UKIP contacted the ICO and claimed that Annabelle Fuller’ computer was left in a taxi.

Both she and UKIP’s leadership continue to deny any responsibility for the leak.

UKIP's leadership still continue to refuse to apologise for the leak. The ICO has contacted me and has said “We will be writing to UKIP to raise our concerns over this incident with them and remind them of their obligations under the Act".

End of statement.

I would contend there is nothing more to be said on this matter unless John West seeks to lift his own silence - that of course is unlikely to preclude the liars, dissemblers and outrigh cowardly members who are known for their dishonesty on The Forum to seek to take advantage of the silence to pretend to knowledge they lack.

It will be interesting to see to what depths Mark Croucher will sink in publication of material he can only have received in breech of confidence from EUkip.

One wonders if EUkip were elected would they seek to Govern by cowardly leaks and bullying eMail as they have acted thus when without authority!

How very like The BNP EUkip has become as Farage drags the party kicking and screaming back to his future as an extremist right wing Thatcherite and authoritarian party with centralised control vested in the hands of a self selected few.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!.


To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU
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