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Tuesday, 4 May 2010

#977* - THE LIARS CHEATS & FILTH IN UKIP CLEARLY UNFIT FOR OFFICE

#977* - THE LIARS CHEATS & FILTH IN UKIP CLEARLY UNFIT FOR OFFICE 

Clean EUkip up NOW 
& 
make UKIP electable!
The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque 
& 
the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

THE LIARS CHEATS & FILTH IN UKIP CLEARLY UNFIT FOR OFFICE!
EVERY DETAIL AND SO MUCH MORE CAN BE SUBSTANTIATED!

PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU PASS THIS ON TODAY
WARN THE GULLIBLE & EASILY DUPED WHO MIGHT VOTE UKIP!


This piece of filth is Douglas Denny, an outright liar, a cheat and undeniably and proven corrupt yet he is on the NEC of UKIP and represents the party all too often as a spokesman. He was dumped from office as returning officer for corruption, lies and cheating in a leadership election - by the NEC he sat on!

For more details of this vile little liar so typical of UKIP CLICK HERE & HERE

This egregious poece of filth is Mark Croucher who is a media representative for UKIP and their racist, anti Jewish, anti homosexual and pro EU membership chums on the Pan EU Political Party EFD with UKIP CLICK HERE.

A particularly vicious and unpleasant poece of filth who having sought my assistance in the past turned out to be a revolting dishonourable and underhand liar - Mark Croucher has serially lied about me claiming that I was anti Jewish which is a lie - though I note he now actively promotes the EFD group for Nigel Farage who have anti Jewish members, holocaust deniers and Nazi sympathisers.

Mark Croucher also lied and tried to dupe people into believing I was a friend of Nick Griffin's and a supporter of the BNP - he is a liar. We note he is now actively supporting as media manager the EFD and its racist, xenophobic members who advocate killing Africans before they arrive in Italy and have convictions for setting fire tho the belongings of immigrants.

For more details of the UKIP Pan EU Political Party EFD grouping CLICK HERE

This nasty little serial failure having it seems defaulted on his bills having made a complete fool of himself and lost his money trying to be a businessman in order to ingratiate himself with UKIP lied about me to the BBC claiming I was a BNP supporter. He also loed about Richard Suckorzewski claiming he was a BNP supporter which could hardly have been more wrong CLICK HERE

It is this revolting cowardlyexcrecence of a man who tried to frame Poers Merchant when he was dieing of prostate cancer and to weak to respond or defend himself yet Mark Croucher with his chum Denny and other NEC members tried to tamper with UKIP records to make it seem Poers Merchant was Junius and when clearly shown to be a liar changed his tune to try to pretend Piers Merchant was a member of the group that is Junius - Mark Croucher rarely gets caught sinking that low.

Nigel Farage has openly stated that part of Mark Croucher's job is to dig out or fabricate dirt on UKIP personelle for Farage to use to control them.

Commencing January a year ago Mark Croucher set out to try to bankrupt me and harass me by abuse of the British Courts.

When this revolting little man, acting as UKIP's agent, aided by the convicted Benefit Fraudster and UKIP Press Officer Clive Page and UKIP's Chairman Paul Nuttall - claiming in the region of £120,000 for use of freely available publicity photographs of Nigel Farage, Godfrey Bloom & Jeffrey Titford the Court totally rejected every aspect of their mallicious vendetta and awarded costs against them - UKIP has a moral duty to refund my costs to the tune of £12,500 and Mark Croucher has a legal obligation to pay £8,500 of my costs.

The details of the Court Case can be seen CLICK HERE

UKIP clearly have a complete contempt for British Courts and have failed to honour their obligation - UKIP's behaviour is beneath contempt they have used an agent to try to suppress free speech and the truth by abuse of the Courts they now lack the integrity to settle their very clear moral debt and are making every effort to shelter Mark Croucher by employing him through complex means within the EU so that he can hide from this debt of honour in complete contempt for British Justice and the British Courts - despite being a party that supposedly claims to oppose the EU they use the EU to hide from their debts.

UKIP are utterly contemptible and if you vote for this level of filth you have no one to blame when you too are betrayed - just as have been many of their long suffering members by this piece of filth:

Malcolm Lord Pearson of Rannoch is a vile and corrupt liar who having entered into an agreement with Nikki Sinclaire MEP for the convenience of the scum that had him as his puppet betrayed Nikki Sinclaire and furthermore published and distributed to the UKIP members a letter which was publicly proven to be a pack of lies.

This sordid little twerp with his Eton lack of morality and track record of flipping houses to maximise his expenses and drawing 100s of £1,000s from the public purse despite his personal £Millions from his Father's business as this imtellectual pygmy could NEVER have made a success of anything had it not been laid out on a platter for him by his Father - he is untrustworthy, duplicitous, self centred, egotistical and completely out of touch with reality and having been the placeman for Nigel Farage this particular piece of filth is campaigning based on the populism of attacking Muslim women for wearing Burqas , Niqabs and Hijabs when there are only around 1500 to 2,000 in all of Britain dishonestly stirring hatred and hysteria for political gain with a good vehicle for the racist vote but well disguised!

Hardly surpriing when one realises he is an award winning Zionist CLICK HERE

Currently this odious little man is actively campaigning against his own loyal members, for and on behalf of his chums in the Tory Party! A stab in the back to those who misguidedly trusted him and his view is 'I don't care they are just troglodytes and who cares if they all leave the party after the election'. On 2 constiuencies in Somerset he lacked even the courtesy to consult either his members or their PPCs but betrayed them in public in the press arrogant, ignorant and duplicitois piece of filth he is.

This is the disloyal and duplicitous piece of filth that hasn't bothered reading the Party Manifesto - had not made so much as a pretence of reading it - why would he care he is working for the Tories!

It was this dishonest and corrupt little man who when caught and exposed money laundering through a shell company called Global Britain claimed his co- conspirator Stuart Agnew who was, with Pearson & Farage conspiring to fraudulently accept donations and advising a young lady how they could break the law with her - Pearson stated Agnew was one of the competent MEPs the rest of UKIP MEPs were dinasaurs!

These people are scum - UKIP is stuffed with liars, cheats, low lifes and the corrupt - no other Political Party has ever had one of its serving MEPs sent to prison for fraud, embezlling public money and money laundering yet Farage and his cronies did all they could to try to cover-up his criminal activities. Tom Wise was eventually sentenced to 2 years in prison CLICK HERE.

The self serving self enriching scum that is UKIP's leadership are unfit for office to a man And the corrupt woman they have see CLICK HERE and also HERE

They really are filth aren't they as the Returning Officer showed exposing amongst others the duplicitous piece of filth Christopher Gill CLICK HERE

In the claim of exposing the EU's cottuprion there was at no time the understanding was they would clean up in the EU and each make £Millions from the scams and fiddles! Yet 5 MEPs have been under investigation by OLAF and we understand their files are in the EU seeking redemption of funds before passing the files to the British police.

We understand that additionally Stuart Agnew, Pearson, David Bannerman, Nigel Farage and Peter Reeve will be under investigation by OLAF for their corruption as proven and shown by The Sunday Times.

Then we have this piece of filth:

Need we say more of this piece of filth, who is UKIP's current press officer but fortunately by publishing the truth about him he was unable to stand as PPC in Dorset! A revolting individual who whilst married boasted of his homosexual conquests and whose wife denounced him on the internet for lewd behaviour with their daughter in his bath!

UKIP really are revolting aren't they - clearly I could go on and on exposing the truth about these scum.

I think it is their total lack of honour and integrity that disgust me most - yes I may well be biased these are the people who promised to be different and promised to work to get us out of the EU and they have in absolutely every detail lied and betrayed us.

Consider:

One would have thought UKIP would have paid their moral debt to me rather than shelter their vile little agent Mark Croucher behind the skirts of the EU to avoid paying me the £12.1/2 Thousand they owe.

The contempt in which UKIP clearly holds Her Majesty’s Courts and any concept of British Justice is staggering when you think this collection of low lifes seek election to positions of authority and governance.

Having after a year of underhand and duplicitous harassment when Mark Croucher acting as UKIP’s agent aided by the UKIP Chairman a duplicitous low life called Paul Nuttall and the UKIP Press Officer a benefit fraudster with convictions Clive Page – They lost the case and were ordered by the Courts to pay my legitimate costs – in an undeniably dishonest and cowardly manner they have failed to honour their debt and have chosen to hide behind employ by the EU where Mark Croucher is a media manager promoting the racist, anti Jewish, homophobic pro EU EFD a pan EU political party grouping that is chaired by Nigel Farage.

UKIP are clearly unfit for office – any office and completely without honour or integrity as they shelter their corruption in The EU.

UKIP really are the scum of the earth aren’t they – Consider:
It is clear that with the election barrelling down on us in just a few days one is forced to ask oneself whether voting for the lesser of two evils isn’t just voting for evil.

The Party Political system is a spent concept and with the LibLabUKipCon doing little more than telling lies to get your vote you must remember just what a mess this country is in  terms of finances, immigration, unemployment, industrial collapse and indisputable unrest and distrust – is there any collection of people as hugely and rightly distrusted as the LibLabUKipCon?

The trouble with the LibLabUKipCon is that you can’t put a cigarette paper between them as they swan around on over generous salaries, near unaccountable expenses and spiv like attitude to honour and integrity – look at a little Party like Ukip:
  • Several £Millions seemingly gone missing unaccounted and presumably ‘trousered’
  • 2 MEPs imprisoned from the last Parliament
  • Stuart Wheeler walked away in disgust
  • The seriously enriched leadership so greedy they pay their family!
  • Malcolm Lord Pearson risible in interview completely out of touch and under investigation for money laundering!
  • Stuart Agnew MEP admitting on camera to criminally defrauding the tax payer.
  • Stuart Agnew MEP colluding with others to commit a crime involving Nigel Farage, Lord Pearson and himself.
  • Stuart Agnew MEP explaining how he, the serial liar and cheat David Bannerman and Peter Reeve defraud the tax payers deliberately and wittingly.
  • The duplicitous Marta Andreasen refusing to continue to be associated with Ukip’s accounts.
  • The lies and professional incompetence and irresponsibility of Andrew Smith, Nigel Farage and others EARNING a guilty verdict and forfeiture and costs debt of £3/4 Million!
  • Public humiliation of the Party when they were found Guilty in a Court of Law and fined over their treatment of John West.
  • Public humiliation when in the Cardiff Courts their agent Mark Croucher lost the case they had brought aided by Paul Nuttall and Clive Page and was ordered to pay costs – currently being sheltered in the EU in contempt of British Justice and British Courts (how very Ukip hide in the EU!!)
  • 5 MEPs understood to have had their files passed to other EU departments by OLAF pending their being passed to The British Police.
  • Official warning for their sloppy and unprofessional handling of membership records and data!
  • Censure by The Information Commissioner under The Data Protection Act for their deliberate failure and dishonesty in handling of a Freedom of Information Application.
  • John Wittacker MEP (past Chairman) lost case in the employment Courts – leading to the Judges comment that he was an ‘untrustworthy and implausible witness’.
  • The lies and dishonesty of Christopher Gill in his management of The PPCasMEPs selection process.
  • The dishonesty and corruption in MEP placement.
  • The abject betrayal of principle in forming a pro EU Pan EU Political Party EFD grouping representing racists, anti Jewish, Nazi sympathising, sexually intolerant, holocaust deniers and xenophobes some with criminal records and with incitement and use of violence and bullying – that is how Ukip leadership see themselves and their party!
  • Dishonesty and failure to publish promised accounts – the only Ukip MEP to honestly publish transparent accounts has been Nikki Sinclaire but she was thrown out as a Ukip MEP having embarrassed Ukip by refusing to be associated with the scum in the UKip EFD group.
The list is clearly long and that is but a fraction – if you want more details see:
http://JuniusOnUKip.blogspot.com
or
either blog provides a trail of 100s, if not 1,000s of similar comments – interestingly to date despite constant abuse from those trying to protect their positions at the troughs on the gravy train of the EU there has not been a single solitary consequential error of reportage on either blog.

Clearly it is up to YOU who you vote for You may be corrupt and wish to see your Country befouled by such corruption – that is a matter for your conscience.

However do you really believe that Your Country is likely to gain by enriching and rewarding the clearly corrupt venal and self serving LibLabUKipCon to just flow on in their cosy relationships, as they swap candidates and exchange constituencies for their own gain at the expense of democracy and peoples right to self determination.

This cosy relationship is all too visible in its support of self enrichment of the Politically corrupt LibLabUKipCon – Did YOU see a single leaflet, hear a single speech, note a single campaign of consequence anywhere in Britain led by any of the LibLabUKipCon in opposition to the New Constitution Lisbon Treaty – Until AFTER the Bill had passed through Parliament.

Did you notice that once the Bill had passed there were 5 days of utterly pointless debate in the House of Commons and dishonourable promises of referendums – knowing full well that the surrender document would come into force, which it did on
01-Dec-2009, before anyone could organise the promised referendum.

Well done Ukip – yours was the cleverest con on behalf of the EU – you even produced a DVD after the bill had passed to look as if you were doing something – it fooled many of the gullible.

One expected Labour to be politically self serving and throw their lot in with the neo Communist EU, one expected them to betray our Country in terms of their perceptions of globalism with some foolish concepts of International Socialism and evil organisations like The Fabians and Common Purpose – One even understands their betrayal and determination to undermine and betray Britain by stirring up a misguided class based hatred, whilst their ‘chums’ became immensely wealth.

One expected successive Labour Chancellors to be economic illiterates and now in desperation they seek to blame our allies in America for their crass economic incompetence and the irrefutable fact that near single handed Gordon Brown has bankrupt Britain whilst his butt boy Blair was enriching himself - (Blair is thought to have ripped off Britain almost in the manner of an African Potentate selling us out here and betraying us there for rich rewards amounting to between £50&90 Million – he is not alone!)

Labour have lived down to expectation – they have not betrayed me they have done as expected.

One knew the Conservatives were self serving and dangerously incompetent – one need only have watched the manner in which the crooks and Uriah Heeps of Tory front bench politics manipulated the sad figure of Margaret Thatcher – she never had a clue what was going on around her and were it not for her Willie she would not have survived – but she suited the greeds and self importance of the likes of Douglas Hurd, Geoffrey Howe, Pym & Prior the foolish woman responded to the flattery of those around her who bought their jobs with their supplicancy as with Lawson, Brittan, Hesseltine, Major, Biffen, Gilmour, Baker, Riffkind, Patten, Ridley, Fowler, King, Walker, Hunt and so on – NOT AN HONEST PATRIOT AMONG THEM!

They betrayed us and Margaret Thatcher was too stupid to realise – NOT ONE stood their ground and spoke out and exposed the EEC for what it was or the EU as it has now become – even poor old Tebbitt hadn’t a clue what was going on under his nose – and one is forced to wonder – as they woke up – was there any surprise that IRA Bombers were paid to Blow Up the core of the party in Brighton. Too easily one overlooks the fact that much of the sectarianism of Ireland has less to do with beliefs than it does to do with the manipulation of the weak and the gullible by criminals for power and gain – WHO PAID the IRA Bombers and how much was the contract worth to the coffers?

The Tory conflict between the Communist trained and funded likes of the Unions, CND, Common Purpose, Fabians and Labour party has been one long false flag war. CND were funded by the Kremlin, Wilson, Brown, Kinnock were all in their way protégés of Russia – Prescott as the Communist/EU Gauleiter running the Blair Government amassed a fortune for himself and his son and like Jack Straw was yet another of Barbara Castle’s pupils in the black arts of Communism – look at Straw’s early communist career and at Prescotts various terms as an MEP moved from department to department to train him for his role.

The Lib.Dims. are just the whores of politics willing to do deals with anyone for no reason beyond greed and power – these are the people who espouse immediately joining The EUro despote the fact that over 80% of their voters when polled wanted to keep the £, not so surprising when you realise that the vast majority of those who vote for them think they are voting for The Liberals and can YOU, as an informed politically active voter, can YOU name 3 Liberal policies – now Dick Clegg, Treacher, Cable and Huges aside can you name 2 Lib.Dim. MPs or MEPs – Yeah, I thought not but people will still vote for the rascals.

I think I have provided more than enough reasons and adequate reference as to why Ukip are unfit for purpose – in fact almost any purpose, being mostly spivs like Farage or useless nere do wells like Clark, Bannerman, Agnew, Croucher, Denny, McGough, Smith, Gill and their ilk – individuals one wouldn’t trust further than you could kick them and justifiably so!

Of you would like more detailed facts please do not hesitate to contact me on 01291 – 62 65 62

Regards,
Greg Lance-Watkins
Greg_L-W (Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com)
01291 - 62 65 62


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Sunday, 2 May 2010

#976* - Douglas DENNY - DROCKTON & SOME COMIC RELIEF!

#976* - Douglas DENNY - DROCKTON & SOME COMIC RELIEF!  

Clean EUkip up NOW 
& 
make UKIP electable!  

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque 
& 
the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name! 

Douglas DENNY - Paul DROCKTON & SOME COMIC RELIEF!
A PAIR of DISHONEST FOOLS! 



Hi,
as a result of seeding the internet with defamatory and largely dishonest comments it would seem the odiotic Bedroom Broadcaster on the internet from America with his afternoon show has finally found someone to give credence to his fantasies - I expect he and Douglas Denny will get on famously as both are clearly far from trustworthy and crassly incompetent when it comes to the level of their dishonest and irresponsible witterings.

These are the messages posted on the internet seeking any foolish and unsourced and uncorroborated fantasies.

The lack of responsible due dilligence by irresponsible amateurs in the Hollie Greig case has been my fear for the case from the start as the RELIABLE witnesses will attest and those who have responsibly carried out due dilligence.

Here is the advertisements for information put out by, I believe, the dishonest and unreliable self seeker Paaul Drockton - in his temper tantrum at being exposed as something of a fool:

Masquerading as - truthseeker444 View Post



I have been searching for Douglas Denny, and was taken to this thread. I read an article he wrote on 2006 about Greg Lance Watkins.


GLW has this week seriously tried to derail a campaign I am involved with, and I am trying to gather info on him, can anyone here either guild me to Douglas, or give me info on GLW?
To which a third party responded:
If you are REALLY interested in the truth why not ring him yourself on 01291 626562.
And if you don't may I suggest you are not really interested in the truth at
To which was received the fatuous and unfounded reply:


To which was received the fatuous and unfounded reply:






If I thought there was the slightest possibility of GLW telling me the truth, I would indeed ring him, but truth and GLW seem to be strangers!
Plus why would I want to subject myself to one of his rants!
 So sadly, like others in the Hollie debacle who are trying to have  their 15 minutes of fame he is not interested in fact, he has no interest in balance he is looking for ANY source however dishonest that will feed his fantasies.

Below is the response he garnered from the unchecked and unreliable source Douglas Denny seen by some as UKIP's village idiot and by others for what he really is a venal self serving faolure who having failed to get his branch to nominate him as a PPC when he, his wife and only one other voted for him and everyone else voted for an unknown (relatively) newcomer to UKIP. Denny was then parachuted in to stand in a nearby constituency where I understand he is having great problems getting help leafletting as the branch is on the quiet distributing leaflets for Andrew Moffat of The BNP as they would rather him to Denny.

Denny has for many years been seen as a weedling toady for Farage and was at one time thrown off the job of internal returning officer by the NEC for corruption, dishonesty and trying to rig an internal election FACT.

Here his Denny's statement - verbatim and then I have published it again below with some FACTS & dates inserted - I hope this helps show just how dishonest Mr. Drockton is:

Sunday, May 2, 2010
Greg Lance-Watkins Exposed Before?

Originally Posted by douglas denny


Let's get it a little closer to the more likely truth, based on observation of this person and his methods and information about him obtained over some time. A slightly more balanced view from the above sycophantic piffle from Mr GLW's bottom-cleaner Mr. Warry and his tongue.
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I have studied GLW's output for some years now and can confidently say GLW is undoubtedly a political agent provocateur with an agenda to damage UKIP in whatever way he can muster.
All this nonsense from Warry about him wishing to 'clean up' UKIP is blather and bluster to divert attention from his real purpose.
He has an alleged history of covert activites with MI5 in the past fishing for extreme persons by advertising in magazines. This is admittedly hearsay but has been transmitted to me via three different (separate) sources. One a high ranking Conservative. I believe it is possible.
Even if not so, he shows all the expertise of this kind of activity with his efforts over the last few years with daily outpourings of anti-UKIP propaganda and manipulation of anti-UKIP people.
I think he is undoubtedly paid, and I would put the Conservative Party as the most likely contender as to his controlling interest; not MI5 as some seem to think - though that is not without possibility as a recent newspaper article suggests MI5 activity regarding UKIP, with a question from Lord Pearson in the Lords asking directly if MI5 have at any time been investigating UKIP, and not answered satisfactorily by directly denying MI5 surveillance/ manipulation of UKIP.
GLW has groomed disaffected UKIP people for many years with telephone calls and his drooling support of their attacks. He manipulates and supports them using their anger against UKIP as the oxygen to attack UKIP.
It is classic black propaganda technique - set-up a ring of antagonistic agents against the target and coordinate their efforts. Exactly what SOE did in WW2 in France and elsewhere, and what MI5/6 and CIA try to do always and everywhere their interests lie.
His own offerings are a mixture of fact and pure fantasy with a sprinkling of what he hopes are plausible lies - but absolute lies nevertheless... and always with a view to making damaging allegations, more often than not completely unfounded - but no matter, the potential for damage is there.
He is undoubtedly the kingpin of an anti-UKIP axis of internet networked dissafected UKIPers, which include Petrina Holdsworth and all the usual suspects you often see here. The 'Junius' character is in close contact with him (if not actually the evil one himself). I could name a large list of people who are suspected or almost certainly included in this activity.
He was an intersting fellow to observe in the early days, but is the biggest bullsh1tter I have ever come across in my life, and I became bored with his rubbish rants a long time ago. It astonishes me he carries on. The pay must be good supplementing his pension from MI5.
Some years ago I enjoyed fencing with him for a long time here and through e-mails with the deliberate intention of playing him like a fish to make him ever more enraged, to make ever more exhorbitant and ridiculous statements and rants - and which he fell into my trap very nicely thank you and exposed himself as the extremist he is. I like to think my efforts have diluted his effect over time by this method of showing-up his rubbish for what it is and everyone now knowing what a fantasist he is.
He is a Walter Mitty character, who probably actually believes the rubbish he propagates (just as Tony Bliar does), as he cannot distinguish anymore between fact and fantasy as he has dealt with the fantasy for so long it comes naturally to him and both are the same in his mind.
He has directly accused me of all sorts of heinous crimes including smears of the worst kind, which is why I declare an interest in this missive and admit I cannot stand the character as I think he has no honour and deserves no respect at all as he has shown repeatedly he is an evil man: for example by publishing private information and letters of mine - obtained illegally. A gentleman does not publish other people's private letters sent to them - and certainly doesn't publish them if they are obtained illegally and when sent to someone else. That is the work of evil people like blackmailers.
Luckily, he has made his internet persona into a figure of fun as no one believes him that knows anything about politics and UKIP - he has made such ridiculous claims in the past so often. This boy has cried wolf too often to be believed.
He is actually a failure as an agent provocateur, as the clever ones keep a low profile and get the agents to do the damage whilst guiding them and giving support. In short he has blown it!
He is however an extremist with potential I think every bit as dangerous as some terrorists because of the following:
1) Having been involved with the police for possession of modified bullets. ( I believe they were mercury tipped).
2) He has given his support to the assasination of a Swedish minister by an extremist terrorist.
3) He has also suggested armed insurection against the legitimate British government.
Whoever his controllers are: (MI5? Conservatives? BNP?) they are using a dangerous rogue who could get them into trouble if the link is ever proven.
And what if there is no link to another organisation? and all these years he has been pouring out these reams of daily anti-UKIP bile and propaganda for no other reason than to please himself? (a possibility logically one must consider) .... then he must be insane, as his activity is so obsessive and focussed - and he is then more dangerous an extremist than I think.
DED.
Posted by Paul A Drockton M.A. at 3:15 PM 0 comments
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Sunday, May 2, 2010
Greg Lance-Watkins Exposed Before?

Originally Posted by douglas denny


Let's get it a little closer to the more likely truth, based on observation of this person and his methods and information about him obtained over some time. A slightly more balanced view from the above sycophantic piffle from Mr GLW's bottom-cleaner Mr. Warry and his tongue.
Well I guess that says just about all anyone would wish to say about the foul mouthed and unpleasant Mr. Denny and Drockton who publishes this much without checking a single fact!

In passing Mr. Warry os more accurately defined as Major T.N. Warry Royal Green Jackets Retired - if you require more details of this man who was Chairman of UKIP in Wales and has many years of honourable military service try
CLICK HERE


Denny on the otherhand is an unemployed Optician, who does the occasional locum day.

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I have studied GLW's output for some years now and can confidently say GLW is undoubtedly a political agent provocateur with an agenda to damage UKIP in whatever way he can muster.
However you will note not one shred of evidence to support his claim though I can understand his ire an agent of UKIP recently, aided by UKIP's Chairman Paul Nuttall & Press Officer Clive Page (a convicted Benefit Fraudster) recently lost a case against me in Court after over a year of malicious harrassment and underhand practices taken to intimidate me and suppress the truth. I won the case against me and UKIP's agent was ordered to pay my costs CLICK HERE To date UKIP has dishonourably and dishonestly in contempt of Court and in contempt of British Justice failed to honour their moral debt and have sheltered Mark Croucher in the skirts of EUropa! So much for being opposed to EU membership!

Last November I was primarily responsible for UKIP MEP Tom Wise being sentenced to 2 years in prison for corruption - details
CLICK HERE

All this nonsense from Warry about him wishing to 'clean up' UKIP is blather and bluster to divert attention from his real purpose.
I do not believe I am alone in my desire to clean up UKIP, an aim which has lead to a capaign of lies from the likes of Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Gawain Towler, Malcolm Wood and others. You may find the resignation letter from a past Chairman of UKIP Wales, an elected NEC member and a contender in a leadership election of some guidance with regard to UKIP and how vile the likes of Denny are CLICK HERE

I can of course provide a great deal more corroborative and substantive evidence, fully cross referenced should you care to act responsibly and establish FACT rather than proceed on hearsay and unsound fantasy.

For further FACTAL information may I suggest that you read the FACTS just CLICK HERE or alternatively HERE  - Obviously there are many other web sites that show the basis of the unpleasant and proven dishonest Mr. Denny's vituperative ire. Sadly in telling the truth one makes few friends amongst the corrupt, the venal and the foolish - as the likes of Mr. Drockton and the foul mouthed Sandra Barr have made very clear.


He has an alleged history of covert activites with MI5
Please provide one single solitary item of evidence - in all of the years Denny has trotted out this lie he has not been able to produce a single solitary shred of evidence to support his lie - he can not as it is a complete fabrication. Douglas Denny has no self respect and is well aware he has on numerous occasions been shown and proven to be both a fantasist and a liar. Yet again he repeats a lie that he KNOWS he can not substantiate.
in the past fishing for extreme persons by advertising in magazines.
This too is a lie of Denny's making and oft repeated lies merely show him to be a liar - were this lie founded on ANY fact he would be able to produce one of these many advertisements he has invented. Douglas Denny being a liar can not produce a fact to back his dishonesty.
This is admittedly hearsay but has been transmitted to me via three different (separate) sources.
Three other liars - will Mr. Denny identify these liars publicly - clearly if they are NOT liars there will be evidence to back their claims.
One a high ranking Conservative.
Are we supposed to believe the claimed rank of the undeclared liar gives credibility to Denny's lies?
I believe it is possible.
Stephen Hawkins believes it is possible there are other life forms in the universe - some people believe there are fairies but very few believe a word Douglas Denny as he is clearly a liar and off with the fairies!
Even if not so, he shows all the expertise of this kind of activity with his efforts over the last few years with daily outpourings of anti-UKIP propaganda and manipulation of anti-UKIP people.
So Denny now admits he has absolutely no facts and has been telling lies all along but as he read a comic at some stage that I publish facts and details, all cross referenced and corroborated much with published documentary truth, that show beyond doubt that Douglas Denny is a liar and UKIP is utterly corrupt and unfit for office ANY office working in collusion with anti Jewish, racist, xenophobic, sexually intollerant and pro EU membership partners ina Pan EU Political Party EFD grouping that totally betrays UKIP's core principles and memberss' beliefs I am some sort of agent! For substantiation and cross referrences of these claims CLICK HERE


I think he is undoubtedly paid,
Another lie based upon Doglas Denny's fantasies, without a shred of evidence.
and I would put the Conservative Party as the most likely contender as to his controlling interest;
Another lie presented as some sort of fact yet Denny provides not a shred of evidence - he is a liar.
not MI5 as some seem to think -
Another unattributed claim without provenance and without evidence - this has now drifted from the fanciful thoughts and lies of Douglas Denny, he is now so bereft of fact he is quoting the alleged thoughts of un-named claimed individuals.
though that is not without possibility as a recent newspaper article suggests MI5 activity regarding UKIP,
And everything in the papers is true I presume - do bear in mind even the papers didn't publish this as a fact - merely as a speculation.
with a question from Lord Pearson in the Lords asking directly if MI5 have at any time been investigating UKIP, and not answered satisfactorily by directly denying MI5 surveillance/ manipulation of UKIP.
I must admit the UKIP's Tory PEERson asked if it was the intelligence services duty to carry out surveillance on political parties and it was rather 'dead batted' as a question. Strange as it may be to someone as isiotic as Denny security services rarely publish their itinerary and I understand they are NOT answerable to either The House of Lords nor the House of Commons let alone some crass and rather thick PEER!

Let us hopw that the Intel. is kept on ALL political parties as it always used to be and that this is not one of the cost cuts to fund Labour propaganda - I understand that Intel. is answerable to the J.I.C. who report via the Chairman of the J.I.C. to The Cabinet Office.

GLW has groomed disaffected UKIP people for many years with telephone calls and his drooling support of their attacks.
Oh as when Douglas Denny, Nigel Farage, Mark Croucher and many others used to phone for help or as with Mark Croucher who wanted to attend a Huntsman Weekens when he heard that Nick Griffin had phoned and asked me if he could attend (probably Croucher was looking for a job - he is now media manager for the racist and anti Jewish pro EU EFD group!) - Just another dishonest slur from Denny without any factual evidence or examples!
He manipulates and supports them using their anger against UKIP as the oxygen to attack UKIP.
I wonder who he means and why they would be angry - might it be at the corruption, dishonesty, cheating and vile bullying that is both systemic and endemic withing UKIP.

For a couple of examples see
CLICK HERE & HERE

It is classic black propaganda technique - set-up a ring of antagonistic agents against the target and coordinate their efforts.
Oh is it - I wonder where this foolish little man read that - Biggles or Spy vs Spy.
Exactly what SOE did in WW2 in France and elsewhere, and what MI5/6 and CIA try to do always and everywhere their interests lie.
I must admit that I haven't read many spy novels as it is not my genre - I accept what Denny says may be true but he does make hiself look a bit silly when he makes accusations without ANY evidence - I guess that is why despite his fascination with these fantasies he failed to get anywhere in intel. Having read his staggeringly childish letters to the police etc. over some 12 years one can hardly be surprised.


His own offerings are a mixture of fact and pure fantasy with a sprinkling of what he hopes are plausible lies
What a ridiculous accusation to make without being able to cite a single example to corroborate his loes - Not one example!
- but absolute lies nevertheless...
Please identify a single solitary lies of commission, omission or substance - surely in the many years Denny claims to have studied me that he can not provide a single fact must tell any rational individual the poor man is a complete twit. That he is a dishonest, untrustworthy and malicious twit is clearly proven.
and always with a view to making damaging allegations, more often than not completely unfounded
I challenge the liar Denny to provide a single instance, out of the literally 1,000s of postings and eMails over the last 15 years, that he can show to substantiate his utterly dishonest statements.
- but no matter, the potential for damage is there.
No the potential for damage is that the truth about UKIP becomes known and I am happy to provide the truth - consider:

Perhaps if you require clarification of this clear and undeniable criminal collusion you may wish to CLICK HERE

He is undoubtedly the kingpin of an anti-UKIP axis of internet networked dissafected UKIPers, which include Petrina Holdsworth
Oh now the ex Chairman is gratuitously defamed by Douglas Denny, without fact or evidence!
and all the usual suspects you often see here.
So many of them yet clearly Douglas Denny has absolutely no evidence to defame people - next with similarly febrile evidence he will be accusing The Archbishop of Canterbury of being a paedophile & the Bishop of Chichester of being a pederast, whilst all who realise he is a liar a cheat and a corrupt coward will have the intelligence to ignore him whilst the gullible will leap on his lies with glee!
The 'Junius' character is in close contact with him (if not actually the evil one himself). I could name a large list of people who are suspected or almost certainly included in this activity.
But he won't because it is so much more effective smearing people without any evidence and less knowledge - hugely funny when you read his maunderings - note he implies I am Junius and then he announces a long list of people are Junius - get a grip Denny you just look like a fool.

Where is your evidence of a single one of the lies you so habitially publish - of course you have none! I forgot we have proved your dishonesty over and over, but being dishonest and corrupt by nature Denny has NEVER produced one single shred of evidence!



He was an intersting fellow to observe in the early days, but is the biggest bullsh1tter I have ever come across in my life, and I became bored with his rubbish rants a long time ago.
I think this is Denny secret squirrel code for: 'I can find no facts to prop up my claims and the more I say the more foolish I look'!
It astonishes me he carries on. The pay must be good supplementing his pension from MI5.
Another childish slur without ANY fact to back it.


Some years ago I enjoyed fencing with him for a long time here and through e-mails with the deliberate intention of playing him like a fish to make him ever more enraged, to make ever more exhorbitant and ridiculous statements and rants - and which he fell into my trap very nicely thank you and exposed himself as the extremist he is.
And being as clever as his shaving mirror tells him he is it is astonishing he was unable to find a single fact to show he was not an unmottigated liar and utterly delusional!
I like to think my efforts have diluted his effect over time by this method of showing-up his rubbish for what it is and everyone now knowing what a fantasist he is.
Delusional little man! Denny has failed to convince anyone as he has failed to produce a shred of evidence - a single corroboration of his lies.
An astounding measure of just how vile UKIP is this odious little liar Douglas Denny, corrupt and dishonest as he is is not only a PPC for UKIP but is a member of their NEC - is it any wonder that as a Party they are unlikely to have an MP elected after 17 years and will lise a huge amount of their deposits. They only had MEPs elected as a back lash against the allegations of sleaze in Wesrminster. Without that everyone has seen through this bunch of crooks, charlatans and spivs.


He is a Walter Mitty character, who probably actually believes the rubbish he propagates (just as Tony Bliar does), as he cannot distinguish anymore between fact and fantasy as he has dealt with the fantasy for so long it comes naturally to him and both are the same in his mind.
Again I challenge this proven liar to provide one shred of proof to substantiate his defamatory dellusions.


He has directly accused me of all sorts of heinous crimes including smears of the worst kind, which is why I declare an interest in this missive and admit I cannot stand the character as I think he has no honour and deserves no respect at all as he has shown repeatedly he is an evil man: for example by publishing private information and letters of mine - obtained illegally.
An eMail - NOT a letter and it was published as a result of a coleague of Denny's being disgusted by the duplocity of the fact that Denny was defaming and libeling a colleague on the NEC who to the man's face Denny was grovellingly defferential. I believed that since Denny had colluded in trying, with Croucher to fabricate evidence to frame Piers Merchant as being 'Junius' during the period Piers Merchant was largely incapacitated in the terminal stages of Prostate Cancer.

Douglas Denny and his fellow travellers disgust me as underhand, self seeking, vituperative excrecences.

Denny even betrays those he pretends are friends - no wonder I know no one who respects him!

A gentleman does not publish other people's private letters sent to them - and certainly doesn't publish them if they are obtained illegally and when sent to someone else. That is the work of evil people like blackmailers.
A terminology Denny has no cogniscence of clearly - not much point in 'whistle blowing' and exposing a crook if you aim to blackmail - so to add to liar, corrupt, cheat and low life I guess Denny has shown himself without doubt to be dishonourable, untrustworthy, disloyal and a fool!


Luckily, he has made his internet persona into a figure of fun as no one believes him that knows anything about politics and UKIP
Except the many 10s of 1,000s who read his blogs relentlessly knowing that to date never once has anyone shown a single one to be consequentially wrong and NEVER has one been shown to be dishonest.
- he has made such ridiculous claims in the past so often.
Do odentify a single solitary fact to back your lie Douglas Denny.
This boy has cried wolf too often to be believed.
Is the implication that someone other than a fool believes the proven and irrefutable lies of Douglas Denny?


He is actually a failure as an agent provocateur, as the clever ones keep a low profile and get the agents to do the damage whilst guiding them and giving support. In short he has blown it!
So he tries to pretend I am some fantasy figure yet he then says I'm not - Denny is clearly loosing the plot! Yet again absolutely no evidence and not a fact to his name!


He is however an extremist with potential I think every bit as dangerous as some terrorists because of the following:
Yet further dishonest misrepresentations!


1) Having been involved with the police for possession of modified bullets. ( I believe they were mercury tipped).
No WRONG - Having returned from 10 years in Africa, South America and the US my American girlfriend brought into Britain in a container of furniture in a concealed draw was a perfectly legal fire arm and 50 mercury drilled 38 rounds. Legal in Africa and mistakenly shipped into Britain - I had disposed of all of my firearms and ammunition legitimately in Africa before leaving.

There being no amnesty and aware she would risk deportation I accepted the liability.


Knowing there was no amnesty, rather than irresponsibly dispose of it I stripped it down and put parts in 3 separate safes in 3 separate buildings with the ammunition in another safe.

When challenged by the police, on a fishing expedition, as to if I had a firearm I said yes accepting the blame.

I collected the parts and assembled them and handed it, together with the ammunition to Kevin, who at the time was the local firearms officer as I did not trust the other police to not blow their foot off playing cowboys with it!

For this heinous crime in 1982 I was fined a nominal sum and actually I never paid the fine!

Do try to get SOMETHING right Denny you clown!



2) He has given his support to the assasination of a Swedish minister by an extremist terrorist.
An outright lie - Do check when I made the comment relative to Anna Lindt's unfortunate death. Trying to capitalise on her death in this despicable way is rather similar to trying to fram a man in the terminal stages of cancer - aware he lacked the fortitude, energy or time to defend himself.


3) He has also suggested armed insurection against the legitimate British government.
Another lie - no doubt cleverly concealed by misrepresenting the fact that I have often held up a lighter looking like a round of ammunition or a disarmed K40-II round and said:
'if we can not convince people through the ballot box, are unable to convince people from the soap box I fear there is every chance out children may be left to use the ammunition box to restore the liberty and democracy of these United Kingdoms'.

This is one of Douglas Denny's more despicable lies - NEVER have I advocated armed insurection, unlike the idiotic Denny I know how horrendous such an event would be, which is why for so many years I have actively campaigned for peace, the weak and the wronger..


Whoever his controllers are: (MI5? Conservatives? BNP?) they are using a dangerous rogue who could get them into trouble if the link is ever proven.
More childish defamation and fantasy and no evidence, corroboration of facts.
And what if there is no link to another organisation?
All the libellous defamation and now 'what if nothing he has said is true'!!! What a cowardly little creep!
and all these years he has been pouring out these reams of daily anti-UKIP bile and propaganda for no other reason than to please himself?
So here is an admission this vile little fool hasn't got a clue what he is talking about and his vituperative fantasies are merely and irresponsible product of his sick and delusional mind.
(a possibility logically one must consider) ....
So now Denny concedes ALL my actions must be considered as logical or how else could he logically consider them!!
then he must be insane, as his activity is so obsessive and focussed
In the light of the lies and fantasies of Douglas Denny that have so readily included unlimited numbers of other people - one is forced, with evidentiary provenance, to ask whether the wotld might be a better place if he were legally restrained from his quite staggeringly foolish defamation and lies.
- and he is then more dangerous an extremist than I think.
There is little doubt for the sane as to who has been proven beyond doubt to be dangerous and delusional!
DED.
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It is sad when one realises that there are some who are dishonest enough to exploit Douglas Denny and his lies when clearly he needs help and it is sad that without a shred of evidence and even eventually admitting he hasn't a clue what he is talking about and it is all conjecture of his tortured mind and too much time that there may even be people so gullible as to believe some of his malign and vituperative lies and distortions.

Please pass this on as I believe people should be warned just how evil UKIP and its dishonest agents are.



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If I thought there was the slightest possibility of GLW telling me the truth, I would indeed ring him, but truth and GLW seem to be strangers!Plus why would I want to subject myself to one of his rants!

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Friday, 30 April 2010

#973* - The ICO Finds AGAINST UKIP - John WEST Totally Vindicated!

#973* - The ICO Finds AGAINST UKIP - John WEST Totally Vindicated!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque
&
the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

 

The ICO Finds AGAINST UKIP - John WEST Totally Vindicated!

Let us see if UKIP have the basic integrity to make a public apology!


A statement from John West

I am pleased to announce that the Information Commissioner’s Office has upheld my original complaint against the UK Independence Party. Again, I have been completely vindicated.

This complaint concerned UKIP’s refusal to send me any data that mentioned me.
The request was made under Section 7 of the Data Protection Act 1998.

I made this request to John Whittaker, as I wanted a full record of all documents held by UKIP which mentioned me.

I first contacted UKIP with this request on 3/9/8. John Whittaker, UKIP Party Chairman, was the recipient.

Initially, he arrogantly ignored my request.

I persisted. This started yet another a vicious and dishonest campaign of smears and lies directed against me, a campaign which emanated from UKIP’s leadership.

Finally, on 11th September I received a copy of my membership details! 
Nothing else was included. In an accompanying dismissive letter it was dishonestly claimed that UKIP held no other ’discloseable personal data’.
The letter was signed by John Whittaker on behalf of Paul Nuttall.

I knew this to be untrue as I have a listing of a large number of emails, letters and reports that specifically refer to me.

On 18th September I sent a letter to Paul Nuttall requesting his compliance under the law to the Data Protection Act.

On 24th October, I received the following email from him.

After taking legal advice, I am advised to inform you to refer to the letter sent to you by Dr. Whittaker on 11 September 2008.

Best wishes

Paul Nuttall

It was subsequent to receiving this email that I decided to inform the ICO of UKIP’s failure to comply with the legal requirements of the Data Protection Act.

The ICO started an investigation in July 2009. On 23rd October I received a letter from the ICO.

UKIP had now changed their story, clearly showing their first version was untrue and unsound.

UKIP now admitted to holding data on me but declined to comply with my request as the documents were subject to ‘legal professional privilege’, yet failed to give any explanation as to how they had reached such a perverse conclusion.

As I expected, the ICO did not agree with UKIP’s claim as ‘legal professional privilege’ only applies where ‘the communication has been made for the dominant purpose of obtaining legal advice’ and had no legal connection with UKIP’s misrepresentation of the law.

On 20th April 2010 The Information Commission ordered UKIP to comply with my original legal request, something which UKIP had previously made numerous efforts to avoid.

I sincerely hope that UKIP’s leadership will now fully comply with this order and supply me with all the requested documentation.

To date they have mailed me a jumbled muddle of emails which does not include much of the material in my original list.

I hope that UKIP is still not trying to avoid full compliance with the ICO’s order.

UKIP has only 28 days ( dated from the 20th April) to fully comply with the said order.

It saddens me that I was forced to resort to further action against UKIP. All this could have been avoided if Nigel Farage, John Whittaker and Paul Nuttall had not seen fit to ignore my original request and had acted ethically, professionally and honestly rather than abuse the law and the terms of the Data Protection Act.

UKIP aspire to government, though some may ask if this will be as UKIP or as a Pearson led pressure group within the Conservative Party!

UKIP’s leadership clearly believe that the law can be ignored if they don’t happen to agree with it:

  • Stuart Agnew and David Bannerman can illegally pay Peter Reeve without fear of censure from Farage and Pearson.
  • UKIP is willing to accept illegal donations. 
  • Thousands can vanish from UKIP’s accounts without any questions being asked. 
  • UKIP allows Mark Croucher to avoid his liabilities to the British Courts by continuing to employ him in Brussels. 
  • Nigel Farage and Annabelle Fuller lie to The Mail and The Independent about the reasons behind her ‘departure’ from UKIP.
  • The list is endless and is still growing.
  • UKIP has already lost one court case against me after they were found guilty of a breach of confidence.

I really thought that they would finally come to realise that even their dishonesty will not be ignored by the Courts!

Sadly it appears UKIP have no apparent integrity or visible professionalism.

UKIP is a party led by the untrustworthy, duplicitous and corrupt. It would be a tragedy if such people were elected to Westminster. We need honest politicians, not liars and crooks.

John West

I have the ICO letter which I will add but I have to find time to work out how to load a .tif


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Thursday, 29 April 2010

#971* - Almost Reads AS - ANDREASEN vs. Robin Collett

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From: robin.collet@btopenworld.com
To: william dartmouth (william@williamdartmouth.com); dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk; derek clark (mep@derekclarkmep.org.uk); gerard.batten@btinternet.com; gbloom@ukip.org; johnbufton@tiscali.co.uk; martaandreasen@hotmail.com; mikenattrass@hotmail.com; k.farage@yahoo.co.uk; paul nuttall (ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk); Douglas Denny (greg_l-w@btconnect.com); stuart.agnew@btconnect.com; susanpalfrey@btinternet.com; trevorcolman@btconnect.com
Subject: Transparency
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:33:19 +0000

Hello all,

I hope you do not mind, but I have attached transparency drafts for all MEPs to this e-mail – it saves me time to do it that way

The only one you need to look at is your own one.


I would be grateful if you would confirm that you are happy with it (or advise any changes) – ideally asap – and by end of weekend as I hope to send to Kevin Bonici for putting on EFD MEPs website late Monday, before I disappear to Spain for a week, early on Tuesday


One general point –as you know, we have removed all ?? amounts. On the text in first para on Parliamentary Assistance Allowance, I have added an extra sentence at the end – not least at Marta’s request. I hope you will find this acceptable – as ideally you should all have the same text


For individual MEPs

Godfrey’s is blank – and I am talking to him this pm

Marta has to revise her numbers, from these initial estimates

Mike N ‘s expenses are round sum guesses and he will tell me correct figures on Monday (and figures for item 3 & 4)

William D is hopeful of Expense figures later today (and number of days)

Nigel – did you get figures for return trips and number of days


So I hope to hear from each of you soon, please

Thanks



Robin
PS – Just to remind – I will not be at next Strasbourg but to be at next Brussels on 24/25th March

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-----Original Message-----
From: Marta Andreasen [mailto:martaandreasen@hotmail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2010 22:29
To: Robin Collet; william@williamdartmouth.com; David C. Bannerman; mep@derekclarkmep.org.uk; gerard.batten@btinternet.com; gbloom@ukip.org; john bufton; mikenattrass@hotmail.com; Kirsten Farage; Paul Nuttall; stuart agnew; susanpalfrey@btinternet.com; trevor colman
Subject: RE: Transparency


Dear Robin,


Thank you for sending this.


I can live with the comment that you have added to the secretarial allowance about any amount not claimed going back to the EU budget, even if this is not my preferred option.


In the case of General Expense allowance however I cannot adhere to the text you propose, for the reasons I explained at the meeting last week and which I reiterate below.


Section 3 Article 25 of the Implementing Measures for the Statute for Members of the European Parliament states that " members shall be entitled to a flat-rate general expenditure allowance to cover expenses which arise in the course of their parliamentary activities and which are not covered by other allowances under these implementing measures or other Parliament rules".


There is no mention on where you incurr the expense whereas in the paragraph you propose you limit the "cost of carrying out the duties of the MEP, incurred in the United Kingdom". I do not see the need to add this limitation when the regulation does not require this and moreover you have advised me to use the general allowance to cover costs that I have incurred in Brussels, such the case of the media training by Martin Jay for example.


I therefore propose that the paragraph to be used in reference to General Expenses should be the text of Section 3 Article 25 of the Implementing Measures as quoted above.


I await for your final version to introduce my final numbers.


I take the opportunity to inform all that the travel reimbursement office can issue a summary of amount paid for daily allowance and number of missions.




Best regards
Marta

Marta Andreasen MEP
Rue Wiertz, 60
ASP 4F154
B-1047 Brussels
Belgium
Tel: 0032 22845726
Email: marta.andreasen@europarl.europa.eu
Website: www.martaandreasen.com




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From: robin.collet@btopenworld.com
To: martaandreasen@hotmail.com; william dartmouth (william@williamdartmouth.com); dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk; derek clark (mep@derekclarkmep.org.uk); gerard.batten@btinternet.com; gbloom@ukip.org; johnbufton@tiscali.co.uk; martaandreasen@hotmail.com; mikenattrass@hotmail.com; k.farage@yahoo.co.uk; paul nuttall (ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk); Douglas Denny (greg_l-w@btconnect.com); stuart.agnew@btconnect.com; susanpalfrey@btinternet.com; trevorcolman@btconnect.com
Subject: RE: Transparency
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:51:27 +0000

Dear Marta – and for all MEP’s

Thanks indeed to allow this to go forward – I would have preferred this only between Marta and me - but she has sent to all

Authorities

For clarification, you quote word for word the basis set out in Article 25 – which is as you say is just these 3 lines and no more

This 42 page document covers lots of other things – Document Reference 2.1.2

Where I have taken authority on is the another 42 page document - known as the PEAM rules – reference number 2.1.1. (Rules governing the payment of expense and allowances to members) My last copy was drawn down on 11th November 2009 – It needs updating on some things – but not yet published (as you will know)



This document at Chapter 4 – article 13 - giving a whole page to it, - not just the 3 line you quote, explains the headings of expenditure, but also says, in the heading

“This allowance is intended to cover, inter alia, the following expenses incurred in the member state of election”

Discussion

From the above, I think you have not seen all the rules

We do not have time to discuss this



Action suggested



While I am very unhappy about it, I propose to all MEPs that we remove the words “incurred in the United Kingdom” , but leave all other words as is

You know my view – publish soon the minimum and add extra later if demanded

Marta – please

Would you be happy to publish with those words removed

Please

And Marta

Update on figures please – - I have a very tight timetable to work to

Please provide now

Thank you

Robin


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Home Tel : 01252 850824.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Marta Andreasen [mailto:martaandreasen@hotmail.com]
Sent: 28 February 2010 00:33
To: Robin Collet; william@williamdartmouth.com; David C. Bannerman; mep@derekclarkmep.org.uk; gerard.batten@btinternet.com; gbloom@ukip.org; john bufton; mikenattrass@hotmail.com; Kirsten Farage; Paul Nuttall; stuart agnew; susanpalfrey@btinternet.com; trevor colman
Subject: RE: Transparency



Dear Robin,

I copied all because we have been having this discussion among all and because I think my observation is valid for all. I did not understand we needed to have separate conversations on different matters and I had already expressed my views during the meeting where you agreed.

I have seen all the rules but the paragraph I refer to is the one in the implementing rules which is the specific application rule. I frankly do not understand why you insist on limiting this to the UK when implementing rule does not but what worries me more is that I have incurred expenditure in Brussels out of this allowance upon your advise and I refer to Martin Jay?s fees for media training.

So I am sorry but in my page I will state the paragraph of the implementing rules.

As regards the final figures I have now obtained the official report for the number of missions and daily allowances and I have 18 return trips and 65 days allowance instead of the numbers I put in my draft. But I still need to confirm certain figures in the general allowance and this may take until next week.

Assuming you have all the accurate info from the rest of the MEPs I have no problem in that their figures are published on Monday and mine are published some days later when I am happy the information is accurate. If you leave for Spain I can ask Kevin Bonici to load mine in your absence.

Best Rgds
Marta

Marta Andreasen MEP
Rue Wiertz, 60
ASP 4F154
B-1047 Brussels
Belgium
Tel: 0032 22845726
Email: marta.andreasen@europarl.europa.eu
Website: www.martaandreasen.com


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From: robin.collet@btopenworld.com
To: martaandreasen@hotmail.com; william dartmouth (william@williamdartmouth.com); dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk; derek clark (mep@derekclarkmep.org.uk); gerard.batten@btinternet.com; gbloom@ukip.org; johnbufton@tiscali.co.uk; martaandreasen@hotmail.com; mikenattrass@hotmail.com; k.farage@yahoo.co.uk; paul nuttall (ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk); Douglas Denny (greg_l-w@btconnect.com); stuart.agnew@btconnect.com; susanpalfrey@btinternet.com; trevorcolman@btconnect.com
Subject: RE: Transparency
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:49:17 +0000


Dear Marta,

Thanks you – you may have missed it? - I had said in my email below to remove the words ”incurred in the United Kingdom”



The wording used had been discussed and agreed at a number of previous meetings with MEPs, but when you were unable to be present



I think it is far better that all MEPs have the same wording – so my new suggestion is not only removing the words “Incurred in the United Kingdom”, but adding instead “not covered by other allowances”, so it reads



“This allowance covers the cost of carrying out the duties of the MEP not covered by other allowances, and includes running an office and associated expenditure.? All costs incurred meet the published Parliamentary rules”



Are you able to accept that please?



(and hopefully others will agree too – I will assume so, unless I hear differently)



Very good wishes



Robin





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-----Original Message-----
From: Marta Andreasen [mailto:martaandreasen@hotmail.com]
Sent: 28 February 2010 15:49
To: Robin Collet; william@williamdartmouth.com; David C. Bannerman; mep@derekclarkmep.org.uk; gerard.batten@btinternet.com; gbloom@ukip.org; john bufton; mikenattrass@hotmail.com; Kirsten Farage; Paul Nuttall; stuart agnew; susanpalfrey@btinternet.com; trevor colman
Subject: RE: Transparency


Dear Robin,

I don´t like your way of treating me with contempt. Yes I have read your emails and the rules and I have only been absent from one of these meetings but this did not preclude you from facilitating the info agreed to me on hand or by email. Nor does it preclude me from having a different opinion.

I regret to say I have lost trust in you. You will not assume responsibility for MEPs expenditure but want to dictate your differing interpretation of the rules according to the circumstances.

Others may not have the professional experience to deal with their own expenses but I certainly do and lost a very well paid job for defending transparency and accountability in the EU something that few or no one can boast of.

While I have put effort on reaching a common presentation of expenditure for all of us UKIP Meps I reserve the right to put the comments I wish and will also deal with the publication directly myself.

NOW I ask that in the name of transparency you deliver to me without delay the same type of presentation for UKIP´s portion of group expenditure which we all contribute to finance - this should include the 4000 budget line plus all the group recruits under UKIP´s part of the group´s budget and for which at least I was not consulted upon - and make available to me - I leave to others their choice to request the same- all supporting documents for me to audit this expenditure.

I am aware that you are trying to help without even being paid for your work but this is not an arrangement that I have been given the opportunity to agree to nor does it imply that I grant my authorization to you to decide what should be published and what should not.

Best wishes
Marta





Marta Andreasen MEP
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ASP 4F154
B-1047 Brussels
Belgium
Tel: 0032 22845726
Email: marta.andreasen@europarl.europa.eu
Website: www.martaandreasen.com




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