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Monday 1 June 2009

#513* - WILL EUkip BENEFIT FROM CONSTANT LIES?


#513* - WILL EUkip BENEFIT FROM CONSTANT LIES?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!



The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

WILL EUkip BENEFIT IN THE LONG RUN FROM THEIR CONSTANT LIES?!


More Farage Media Porkies


IS THIS FARAGE RECRUITING FOR THE BNP?

OR

Perhaps angling to see if David can arrange a meeting with Cameron, to do a deal for EUkip not stand against The Tories if they promise him a Peerage or a safe seat in Parliament? Suggesting a promise to hold a referendum on The New Constitution Lisbon Treaty.

Nigel Farage gets away with making up fiction after fiction which is swallowed unquestioningly by our supine and idle media. Well I guess it takes hard work to check facts. Why spoil a good lunch which I believe NF recently bought Peter Odone of the Daily Mail.

On Sunday I read a piece by one Melissa Kite in the Sunday Telegraph retelling the story of how Nigel's November NEC was stormed by a BNP delegation whom Nigel single handedly repelled and what a good media performer Marta Andreasen was .

I emailed Ms Kite on Sunday, copy to her editor, pointing out there never was a BNP delegation at that meeting, indeed only UKIP members.

How do I know? Well I was there and come to think of it I have never met any BNP members or sympathisers in UKIP ever so the next time NF trots out this story just ask him who these people are. I would like to know. He won't be able to tell you because they probably don't exist like all of Farage's bogey men.

Returning to Ms Kite I include below the email I sent to her, her boss and the Sunday Telegraph editor.



Dear Ms Kite,


Your piece above is incorrect in its description of the BNP storming the UKIP NEC meeting of 3rd Nov 2008. It is sad to see such lies being retold in your paper. I was at that meeting as an elected member of UKIP NEC. I knew everyone at the meeting. No members of the BNP were present, I checked on their leaked membership list. No storming of the meeting took place by the BNP or anybody else. There was no delegtion for Mr Farage to "tell to leave". This is a pure fiction made up by Mr Farage, one of many I might add.

I have put my full recollections of the meeting on my blog below and if you contact me I will give you the contact numbers of three other people present at that meeting who will vouch for the truth of my account. These are David Abbott, a hospital doctor, Martin Haslam, a senior partner in an Accountancy practice and Del Young an East Midlands businessman.

http://ukiptruth.blogspot.com/2009/05/nigel-farages-economy-with-truth.html

I hope you will publish a correction and learn not to accept the uncorroborated word of duplicitous politicians.


More subjectively your assertion that Ms Andreasen is 'an effective media performer' is open to question. Compare her bumbling performance on Question Time on Thursday 21st May with that of PY Gerbeau a week later on the 28th May. Andreasen gave her game away by calling the audience 'you' while PY identifies with the UK and spoke to the audience using 'we' and 'us'.


I would also point out that Ms Andreasen's candidacy applications was invalid under UKIP rules on 5 or 6 counts. She does not even live in the UK and her UK address provided to the Electoral Commission may only be a temporary accommodation one. You could try asking her what her views are on the sovereignty of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands. I and the voters would like to know her answers before Thursday.

Eric Edmond


David Abbott wrote a similar email:

Dear Ms Kite


You seem to have been too easily taken in by Nigel Farage.


Your colleague, Neil Tweedie, published similar nonsense last Saturday.


The only statement in that article that was not open to question was from Tim Congdon: 'Ask Nigel Farage how much time he spends in Brussels as opposed to here. UKIP has ceased to be about getting the British people out of the EU, its about getting a number of individuals into the European Parliament'


Those who have seen him in action will know that has a great gift for telling convincing lies, especially if it advances his main objective, to stay on the EU Gravy train for another 5 years, with all the unaccountable expenses, free mud baths and pension rights that go with being an MEP.


I was at the meeting when he alleges the BNP stormed in. Nonsense. Only members of the UKIP NEC were present, together with UKIP's Argentinian treasurer, the deputy treasurer and one other invited guest. All present were UKIP members. No BNP members were present.


Voters who want to vote for a withdrawalist party have several other parties to choose from.


You are welcome to ring me on 07887.500572 for further details.









David F Abbott MRCP


Ms Kite nor anybody at the Telegraph bothered to reply. A major national paper is content not to correct demonstrable lies 4 days before a crucial election. Why?

The Telegraph are not alone in retelling Mr Farage's propaganda, today a similar uncritical piece on Mr Farage appeared in the Independent. The quote below gives the flavour of the piece by Andy McSmith,

But this energetic, extroverted man has gone a long way towards clearing out the racism and nastiness that lurked on the fingers of UKIP, when The Independent appropriately described its members as "the BNP in blazers".

Well who were these racists? Who were these men or women in blazers? What evidence did Mr Farage have of their views? I have only heard the phrase BNP in blazers once before and it came from long time Farage supporter Malcolm Wood.

At the start of my first NEC meeting in April 08 I had the temerity to ask Mr Farage what evidence he had to support a tirade he had just delivered against a UKIP branch demanding its suspension. I was then subjected to a tidal wave of abuse from Denny, Duffy etc for not simply accepting the word of the great leader. Well I asked for evidence and continued to ask for evidence but it seems our journalists don't. I conclude that in the area of political journalism shoddy standards are commonly accepted on our national dailies but why is Farage being given such an easy time by our media?

Finally I switched on the Andrew Neil, Daily Politics show today to find, Yes, N Farage as guest. Even Mr Neil remarked how often NF had been on and was NF still after a job on the show as he had mentioned on his previous appearance 4 weeks earlier. Neil easily trapped Farage on the £2 million expenses he claimed he used to finance UKIP but then he gave NF an easy ride. Thank goodness there was also a Labour MP and a No2EU left winger who rightly gave NF a harder time than Andrew Neil.

So what is going on? Clearly the media see building up Farage as the antidote to the BNP. You only have to talk to Farage for 2 minutes to know what he is. The media are not stupid but they and the LibLabCon establishment are clearly are running scared of the BNP. As always the media will build Farage up so as to knock him down later. They have plenty of material to do this with but so far they have not used it. The Labour party however has some very damaging material on UKIP and they are getting desperate so it may be like today's Daily Politics the comrades will be the ones to put the boot in to burst NF's bubble.


To view Eric Edmond's original blog CLICK HERE

*To read the online version of Melissa Kite's article CLICK HERE
It is a little less flowery in its description of Farage's fantasies about his friend Buster Motram's presentation to the NEC which Farage asked him to make - didn't go down very well did it Nigel with Duffy, Denny, Zucherman and other making such fools of themselves in their childish outbursts and the total loss of control of the NEC by your unelected scally parachuted in as your puppet. They even had to call the Police to restore order but the cover-story was that they were called to remove Mr. Motram or some other fantasy figure. NO ONE WAS REMOVED.

The Police managed to restore order for Paul Nuttall and the meeting continued.

Farage is clearly a moral dyslexic and will lie about anything to keep his snout in the trough - he even hires in pond life like Mark Croucher, another liar all too willing to invent stories about The BNP and unwilling to tell the same story twice about supplying details of members to the odious extremist Searchlight organisation, with its BNP style methods of witch hunts, break ins and criminality to support their self serving aims.**


TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU's CAP - In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS - GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU
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